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Re: Funzi Tieri [Re: dsd] #902992
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S.club i agree. Were getting of topic with funzi. I think he was named acting boss by rusty who was made official boss in 7374 when violi went to new york to vote as the montreals vote for boss. Rusty was under indictment and must have tappd galante. He inducted a few turncoats massino lino and coppa in 1977 so thats why or a reason he went to prison on parole v. In 1978. You never seen that fbi file about galnte flying to tuscon az. Its around. Massino wasnt sure but hes probaly lying about galantes position hes said boss or acting i dont remeber. Probaly clears him of a few murders some how.

Re: Funzi Tieri [Re: SinatraClub] #902994
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I edited my last post to explain more how Galante may have gotten so many followers, for whomever may be interested.

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Re: Funzi Tieri [Re: pmac] #902996
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No Miranda was from Naples just like Genovese. Funzi was a power well before Miranda passed away in the early 70's, he likely took over the Miranda crew when Miranda became a part of the administration put in place by Genovese. The Sicilian/Neapolitan dynamic was never an issue in that family as Luciano, who was from Sicily, had as his under boss and then acting boss Genovese, who was from Naples.

Re: Funzi Tieri [Re: dsd] #902998
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Its funny you say that the providence paper's have recently got patriarcas fbi file and informants in the early 5859 but early 60tys say costello and genovese asked the boss of boston or new england to step down for ray cause there were to many Sicilians on the commish. Its there i read it. Makes sense. They politely asked buccola or watever his name was to step down. Ray would go on to be very loyal to there famiky which he was originaly inducted in but transferd to buccola in boston it says. He was made with some old boston guy mickey the wiseguy. Buy costello.

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They got ray on wire tap in the 60tys talking in gis office to jerry anguilo about inducted 6 guys including the scibelli brothers then transfering them to nyc. The guy skiball ended up the springfield capo around 1980.

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All that nep. Sic. Shit

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Im sorry typing on a little phone keyboard. I think i write better.

Re: Funzi Tieri [Re: SinatraClub] #903003
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I agree with you, there is no evidence that Galante was ever the official boss of the Bonannos. However, just like Vito Genovese when he returned from Italy, I do think that Galante may have been the most powerful guy in the family at times after he got out of prison. He was able to use that power to gain defacto control of the family when Rastelli went to jail. The fact that he was the power on the street and was making guys and hogging the heroin money pissed off Rastelli and also the other families in NYC, who had never recognized him as boss in the first place. Therefore, it made sense that his murder was not just a Bonanno thing but a collaborative effort involving the Gambinos and possibly other families in NYC.

As for Bonanno himself, when it is said that he was forced into retirement, I think that what is meant is that he was forced to retire from leading the Bonannos and having anything to do with NY affairs. The NYC families could care less if he was still able to run what I would call a mini family in Arizona with interests on the West Coast, that had little if any impact on them. If Tieri went to visit him before Galante got hit I think it was to let him know that Galante getting taken out was not an opening for Bonanno to take control of the family and get involved in NY affairs again.

Re: Funzi Tieri [Re: dsd] #903004
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Where did Frank Garafolo fit in there exactly? ( I think he was, La Marese, that's what they called it..) I've read he was close to guy Generoso Pope? Had at the time the biggest construction company in America?
And it always seemed to make a little MORE sense that he woulda given the okay to hit Carlo Tresca, even if it was a favor to Genovese..

I've always read Garafolo was at the Palermo meeting, along with Galante, Bonnano, Bonaventre, and the Maggadinos....

BUT, I've read about Johnny Morales being underboss too. Even his name confused me, lol....

Anyone got any clarification?

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Re: Funzi Tieri [Re: dsd] #903005
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Correcting myself here. Garafolo was Bonanno's original underboss but stepped down at some point between '57 I believe, no indication why to my knowledge. Then Morales was made acting Underboss, then the official underboss in '62. Morales then served on the ruling panel, for a year from '63-'64, which i believe was during Bonannos phony kidnapping, along with Gaspar DiGregorio, John Tartamella and another Bonanno loyalist Frank Labruzzo. Morales was then Underboss of Bonannos Arizona faction and Labruzzo at some point became its figurehead.



On another note with Galante and the Gambino connection in his murder, its said that during his self imposed boss run, Galante had about 7 Gambino members killed. No mention of who these guys were. And for that reason, I dont find it all that believable.

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Re: Funzi Tieri [Re: UncleVig] #903008
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Wasn't he also behind the Carmine Galante hit? This article below says that he not only got the nod from Big Paul, Tony Ducks, Santo Trafficante, Gerry Catena and Neil Dellacroce, but also from Joe Bananas himself in Tucson (Only Persico voted against the hit). To do such a hit, Funzi must have sought the approval from Benny Squint before going on to the Commission to have Galante whacked.

http://www.cosanostranews.com/2014/01/funzi-tieri-got-nod-from-bananas.html

I dont know why they would ask Joe Bonanno since he was forced into retirement but who really knows? I do know Galante was tight with Joe B, in fact the trip they made in the 50s to Sicily was for Carmine to set up the Babania flow from Sicily to Montreal.
Right after the Galante Hit and I mean minutes there is a video of Bruno Indelicato showing up at the Ravenite to be congratulated by Neil Dellacroce, His Father Sonny Red and others. This shows me that it was sanctioned and that Gambinos were involved to profit from the murder.
Supposedly every Kilo of Babania coming from Sicily was taxed by Galante who controlled the flow. At the time of the hit John Gotti was out of town in Ft. Lauderdale with his crew which was something he did when shit was going down.


Gotti and his crew weren't out of town because of the Galante hit. They were down in Florida casing and setting up the hit on Tony Plate.

Re: Funzi Tieri [Re: yatescj7] #903021
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Originally Posted By: yatescj7
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Wasn't he also behind the Carmine Galante hit? This article below says that he not only got the nod from Big Paul, Tony Ducks, Santo Trafficante, Gerry Catena and Neil Dellacroce, but also from Joe Bananas himself in Tucson (Only Persico voted against the hit). To do such a hit, Funzi must have sought the approval from Benny Squint before going on to the Commission to have Galante whacked.

http://www.cosanostranews.com/2014/01/funzi-tieri-got-nod-from-bananas.html

I dont know why they would ask Joe Bonanno since he was forced into retirement but who really knows? I do know Galante was tight with Joe B, in fact the trip they made in the 50s to Sicily was for Carmine to set up the Babania flow from Sicily to Montreal.
Right after the Galante Hit and I mean minutes there is a video of Bruno Indelicato showing up at the Ravenite to be congratulated by Neil Dellacroce, His Father Sonny Red and others. This shows me that it was sanctioned and that Gambinos were involved to profit from the murder.
Supposedly every Kilo of Babania coming from Sicily was taxed by Galante who controlled the flow. At the time of the hit John Gotti was out of town in Ft. Lauderdale with his crew which was something he did when shit was going down.



Gotti and his crew weren't out of town because of the Galante hit. They were down in Florida casing and setting up the hit on Tony Plate.



Yup.

Re: Funzi Tieri [Re: pmac] #903069
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Originally Posted By: pmac
Was mirannda n funzi both Sicilian. I guess thats why gambino was close to funzi. Funzi acording to greg scarpa was really close to the persico clan.

Frank Funzi Tieri was Napolitan, meaning of Naples Italy, as was Vito Genovese, and Chins parents. Much of the Genovese Borgata is Southern Italian Descent notas a rule but more as the social connection, familial etc.
The Bonanno family HAD a rule that you must be Sicilian, no Napolitanos, 0 calabrians..

Re: Funzi Tieri [Re: dsd] #903086
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All Bonanno made men arent Sicilian.

Re: Funzi Tieri [Re: dsd] #903224
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If you notice I capitalized HAD in my post, I will say ALL members inducted under the helm of Joe Bonanno, and Rusty Rastelli were all of Sicilian Extraction. I don't know about when Massino was skipper.

Re: Funzi Tieri [Re: dsd] #903228
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Even during Rastelli's time, all the members werent Sicilian.

Re: Funzi Tieri [Re: dsd] #903274
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yes you are correct my bad, It was under Joe Bonannos reign of his preference for Sicilian membership although he inherited members from other groups during the formation of the 5 families. I do not know what year massino was inducted (74?) Joe Massino is Neopolitan.
A great many of the earlier powers in the family were not only pure Sicilian but Joe preferred familial ties going back to Castellamare De Golfo. Cesar Bonventre was actually a nephew of Joe Bonanno and 2nd cousin to Bill Bonanno, The family history is in Bonannos book 'A man of Honor'

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