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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Marcow] #900579
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Two people sought by the Sûreté du Québec in connection with the double murder occurred on Thursday in Vaudreuil-Dorion. Investigators are asking the public's help to trace Richard Hunt, 38, and Melanie Binette, 28 years.

Investigators want to question them in connection with the murders of Joseph Fluet, 45, and Steven Lamarsh, 38. Last Thursday, the victims' bodies were found on a plot of Montée Alstonvale in Vaudreuil. According to information obtained by La Presse , Joseph Fluet - his baptismal name Éric Lefebvre - has been or was still a member of the Rock Machine of the 13th legion.

Richard Hunt, who lives in Vaudreuil, could circulate on a 2011 Dodge Ram vehicle, four-door, pale and gray G54 MKS registered.

Any information that may help locate Richard Hunt or Melanie Binette can be transmitted confidentially to the Central criminal information of the Sûreté du Québec at 1 800 659-4264.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...tion_ECRAN1POS2

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #900580
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No I don't think there is any American involvement in Montreal anymore.

As for the Mafia up there, it will be quiet until Rizzuto gets out and Sollecito beats cancer or dies one.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: dixiemafia] #900590
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Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
No I don't think there is any American involvement in Montreal anymore.

As for the Mafia up there, it will be quiet until Rizzuto gets out and Sollecito beats cancer or dies one.


No idea, but an acting boss of the Bonannos was involved in the war so there are links to NY.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #900732
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Only because he was from America. He couldn't even step foot in America legally again so the links end there. He held no sway in the Bonanno's anymore much less NY or America.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Marcow] #900734
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Originally Posted By: Marcow
Does anyone of you believe that the New York families have something to do with the preconditions in Montreal?

I mean different Ndrangheta clans have their fingers in the game.

It speaks when you look at the global development very much for it.

The Siderno Group is among the largest and biggest in the cocaine business in North America I would say almost the largest. The commissos the coluccios and other clans. Perhaps also the rest of the cotronis, but they are not as rich and powerful as the siderno group.

These families are rich, powerful and operate all over the world.

At the moment they are on everyone's lips. Italy Canda Australia and in half of Europe.

What would also interest me is the role of the caruana and the [BadWord] family.

Have he any contact with the siderno group? Have the New york familys contacts with the siderno group?

The new york mafia have contacts with the ndrangheta clan Aquino, which is also associated with the coluccios and the commissos.


The New York families have I still think of a certain power in america but worldwide?

Apart from the Gambinos and Genovese, the American Mafia has absolutely nothing to say in the world.

The question for me is how does it look at these 2 families?


No.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Marcow] #900815
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Originally Posted By: Marcow
Does anyone of you believe that the New York families have something to do with the preconditions in Montreal?


There's no evidence of involvement of New York with the current situation, but with the preconditions absolutely. It was Massino's testimony that put Rizzuto in jail which led to chaos in the Montreal underworld. And it escalated when Montagna became involved. This is not even debatable, it is a fact.

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What would also interest me is the role of the caruana and the [BadWord] family.

Have he any contact with the siderno group? Have the New york familys contacts with the siderno group?


Yes, and there is evidence to support it.

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The New York families have I still think of a certain power in america but worldwide?


Not really. The late IvyLeague (as a poster) stated that the New York families have become primarily a local enterprise.

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Apart from the Gambinos and Genovese, the American Mafia has absolutely nothing to say in the world.


Not even these families have much world wide sway anymore. And besides, the New York families never were as active on a global scale as let's say the 'ndrangheta.

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The question for me is how does it look at these 2 families?


Pretty stabile.


"It was between the brothers Kay -- I had nothing to do with it."
Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #900851
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I also think the situation in Montreal has changed in a few years from a strict mafia tradition to urban gangsterism like we also see in for example Napels.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Hollander] #900857
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Things in Montreal just got very interesting if not downright confusing.

Le resto incendié avait accueilli des mafieux

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/12/06/le-resto-incendie-avait-accueilli-des-mafieux

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #900865
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At least we know the Cotronis and Violis are still connected. Very little is known about Michel Cotroni.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Hollander] #900867
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Originally Posted By: Hollander
At least we know the Cotronis and Violis are still connected. Very little is known about Michel Cotroni.


One of Frank's brothers was named "Michel," who, according to one of Frank's obituaries from 2004, might have left Montreal a number of years earlier because he was not part of that world, i.e., the underworld.

There is probably another Michel Cotroni in the family.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #900869
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Originally Posted By: antimafia
Things in Montreal just got very interesting if not downright confusing.

Le resto incendié avait accueilli des mafieux

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/12/06/le-resto-incendie-avait-accueilli-des-mafieux


Very interesting indeed.
The Violi's revenge plot theory, with the backing of the Ontario Ndrangheta, now seems to be more plausible.
-The owner of the restaurant connection with Dany DeGregorio from the DeVito clan.
- Cotroni's and Violi's meeting last October at that same restaurant.
-The Violi brothers being in Montreal the week before Nick Rizzuto sr. was killed.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #900870
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I believe he is Frank Cotroni's son. He had six children,five boys were Nicodemo,Jimmy,Frank Jr.,Paolo and Michel.

Frank Cotroni did have a brother Michel but he is deceased, it is most likely one of his sons.

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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Ciment] #900873
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Originally Posted By: Ciment
I believe he is Frank Cotroni's son. He had six children,five boys were Nicodemo,Jimmy,Frank Jr.,Paolo and Michel.

Frank Cotroni did have a brother Michel but he is deceased, it is most likely one of his sons.


You're right, Ciment, about Frank's having a son Michel.

There's a pic of Michel on p. 2 of the PDF to which I've linked below (file size is about 8 MB).

La Presse article dated September 27, 1985

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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #900884
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Originally Posted By: antimafia
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I believe he is Frank Cotroni's son. He had six children,five boys were Nicodemo,Jimmy,Frank Jr.,Paolo and Michel.

Frank Cotroni did have a brother Michel but he is deceased, it is most likely one of his sons.


You're right, Ciment, about Frank's having a son Michel.

There's a pic of Michel on p. 2 of the PDF to which I've linked below (file size is about 8 MB).

http://collections.banq.qc.ca:8008/lapresse/src/cahiers/1985/09/27/01/82812_1985092701.pdf


Great find! Seems like most of the brothers have followed in their father's foot steps. Paolo was killed by the hitman Gallant in 1998.

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http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...ur-la-mafia.php

Salvatore Scoppa making the news again.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #900887
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #900898
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Lots of interesting information lately but in a misty fog it could seem possible that remnants of the violi cotroni and friends have made some space for themselves lately and will continue to do.

The Cotroni-Violi meeting at the resto is super interesting as is the black dude hired by Scoppa who could of potentially murdered Campellone.

The number of people involved, alliances and such is hard to follow.

One things for sure, all the action happens in Montreal

Time will tell...

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2016/12/06/bu...lli-des-mafieux

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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #900908
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Linguini Restaurant fire may hold clues to Montreal mafia war

http://aboutthemafia.com/linguini-restaurant-fire-may-hold-clues-to-montreal-mafia-war

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Ciment] #900937
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Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...ur-la-mafia.php

Salvatore Scoppa making the news again.



Jesus Christ, that dude's head!

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #900941
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Damn, things are definitely getting interesting

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #900950
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Maybe just a coincidence but the murder of spagnolo and this linguini meeting were within the same time frame

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Originally Posted By: eurodave
Maybe just a coincidence but the murder of spagnolo and this linguini meeting were within the same time frame


I remember an article from 2012 that said Domenic Violi is now in power in Canada and is cleaning up. That is who the people in Quebec think it is. They said it was in retaliation for the murder of Paolo Violi and for pushing them out of Montreal in the first place.

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Originally Posted By: eurodave
Maybe just a coincidence but the murder of spagnolo and this linguini meeting were within the same time frame


Yes it was, the Journal de Montreal mentions that this meeting at Linguini took place at the beginning of October and Spagnolo was killed on the Oct. 15. It's seems that whenever the Violi's are in town, some killing occurs thereafter. I noticed the same with Mirarchi when he would meet with the Ontario clans.

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http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...ur-la-mafia.php

Salvatore Scoppa making the news again.



Jesus Christ, that dude's head!


Now that his brother might be going to jail, I guess he has to carry the load.

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Speaking of the Violis I think they are the cousins of these two brothers who were involved in drug trafficking to the USA.


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Looking back over the last year and timeline of events, it's interesting to note how things have changed.

On one hand, we've been hearing more and more about the Scoppa's and the rise of the bikers, as evidenced by recent arrests and murders, on the other hands we've seen 3 important figures in the Rizzuto loyalists get killed (Giordano, Sollecito, Spagnolo). These were older senior members.

A few months ago, journalist Cedillot had mentioned some sort of alliance brewing between bikers and the calabrians, could the recent meeting at Linguini be an indication of that?

The Lapresse article mentioned that some italian mafiosi were paying the bikers a tax, maybe the new structure put in place has enabled this.

If im not mistaken, the Cotronis have always been extremely close to the french-canadian community and by extension the bikers.

Most likely, the criminal map is being re-drawn within the city.

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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #900986
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Originally Posted By: eurodave

If im not mistaken, the Cotronis have always been extremely close to the french-canadian community and by extension the bikers.

Most likely, the criminal map is being re-drawn within the city.


They said the Cotroni group was finished after the death of Frank in 2004, but it seems like they are still doing their own thing, they are deeply rooted in Quebec culture. I wouldn't besuprised if there is still a structure in place.

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Frank Cotroni wasn't even a force in his later years, especially after his last release from prison. I also wouldn't jump to conclusions and assume the Cotroni group has all of a sudden regrouped, and become a force within the Montreal Mafia like old times. If there is some newly consolidated Cotroni group, I'd place it in the same group as the typical factions. Meaning it's group comprised of other Italian Canadian & French Canadian criminals moreso than Cotronis themselves. In other words, I simply don't believe there is anything at this point to go on that leads to them suddenly being a standalone faction.

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