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Re: Where is the 5 families modern "base". [Re: MrJustsayNo] #901190
12/09/16 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted By: MrJustsayNo
Listen and PAY CLOSE ATTENTION !! I did not CLAIM anything about any single family, I just posted what I read !! Info that was on the internet !! If you read my many posts CORRECTLY as I post in the English language you would have gotten the point ! Yes,Bensonhurst has changed,Chinese etc ,BUT,There are Still lots of ITALIANS HERE !! and,you obviously left the neighborhood !! So why come back and cry about it and what happened to it ! I go to Cafe Sorrento,I live a block away ! OK,there is the democratic club on 17th and 78th st, The republican club on 17th between 78 and 79th,You have Aurora Cafe club next door on 17th and 79th,around the corner on New Utrecht between 78 and 79th is Louie's Club nondescript,Club Sportivo which is a very active Colombo spot on 75th off 18th ave, San Calogero on 76 and 18th, Petrocelli Club on 76th off New Utrecht ,Cafe/club Romeo on 20th ave and 80th and club San Siciliana castelvetrano on 17th between 79th and 80th,And the nondescript real estate marketing storefront which is a club on 80th between 17th and 18th ave ! There's many many more !


LoL, you played yourself now! I Have relatives still living on 17th ave and 78th street, and everything you just said about 17th ave is a complete and utter lie! Everything, you are a lying google maps looking freak. You are finished here!

Guys stop responding to this guy, and he will just fade off. Take my advice.

Re: Where is the 5 families modern "base". [Re: Flushing] #901192
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Yes, this Guy Talking Big shit.

He will see the Mafia control New York City, all of Brooklyn all of Queens and staten island....

Street for Street everywhere Mobsters and social clubs.

This is Fantasy in 2016.

Re: Where is the 5 families modern "base". [Re: alexandarns] #901194
12/09/16 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted By: alexandarns
Originally Posted By: helenwheels
Originally Posted By: bronx
yes 60th..next time in..what state you in


Jersey. Monmouth county. Its not bad. Theres a lot of brooklyn people here so you can get pretty good food and groceries, but not like home.


where on 60th st is it HW?


Between 12th and 13 avenue. My grandparents used to shop there, its a good place to get italian groceries.


All God's children are not beautiful. Most of God's children are, in fact, barely presentable.


I never met anyone who didn't have a very smart child. What happens to these children, you wonder, when they reach adulthood?



Re: Where is the 5 families modern "base". [Re: MrJustsayNo] #901196
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Originally Posted By: MrJustsayNo
Listen and PAY CLOSE ATTENTION !! I did not CLAIM anything about any single family, I just posted what I read !! Info that was on the internet !! If you read my many posts CORRECTLY as I post in the English language you would have gotten the point ! Yes,Bensonhurst has changed,Chinese etc ,BUT,There are Still lots of ITALIANS HERE !! and,you obviously left the neighborhood !! So why come back and cry about it and what happened to it ! I go to Cafe Sorrento,I live a block away ! OK,there is the democratic club on 17th and 78th st, The republican club on 17th between 78 and 79th,You have Aurora Cafe club next door on 17th and 79th,around the corner on New Utrecht between 78 and 79th is Louie's Club nondescript,Club Sportivo which is a very active Colombo spot on 75th off 18th ave, San Calogero on 76 and 18th, Petrocelli Club on 76th off New Utrecht ,Cafe/club Romeo on 20th ave and 80th and club San Siciliana castelvetrano on 17th between 79th and 80th,And the nondescript real estate marketing storefront which is a club on 80th between 17th and 18th ave ! There's many many more !


Random all caps and multiple explanation points always say 'I'm very sane and rational'.

Last edited by helenwheels; 12/09/16 10:26 PM.

All God's children are not beautiful. Most of God's children are, in fact, barely presentable.


I never met anyone who didn't have a very smart child. What happens to these children, you wonder, when they reach adulthood?



Re: Where is the 5 families modern "base". [Re: helenwheels] #901200
12/09/16 10:51 PM
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AT TIMES IM SANE ! Other times,not so MUCH !

Re: Where is the 5 families modern "base". [Re: alexandarns] #901201
12/09/16 10:56 PM
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I live around the block, as of Now,today,currently !! Google maps ?? Are you kidding me,Wow !! You come to my neighborhood anytime you want buddy and I'll show you around NYC and whatever you'd like to see,That's my word !! I like that,Googlemaps lmfaoooo funniest shit I've heard, Go take another MOB TOUR NYC by one of those guides on a double decker bus !! Goodnight !!

Re: Where is the 5 families modern "base". [Re: alexandarns] #901203
12/09/16 10:59 PM
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What lie ? Well, I guess your relatives are deaf,dumb ,blind !! Probably all 3 !! As of 5pm eastern standard time on Friday Dec 9th those places are still up and running !! I live on 18th ave 78th

Re: Where is the 5 families modern "base". [Re: alexandarns] #901204
12/09/16 11:10 PM
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Who are your relatives ? Pm me buddy !! My family,immediate and extended have been there for 65 plus years and own plenty of real estate there !! Maybe you will fade off !! I'm in the neighborhood every day !! See,you and others on here are the problem !

Re: Where is the 5 families modern "base". [Re: Marcow] #901207
12/09/16 11:18 PM
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And where are you from Mr Marcow? UK? Australia? Saudi Arabia? The suburbs? North Dakota? Its not my fault you have no clue what goes on ? The Mob is everywhere, its the truth ! You post on OC board and have no clue whatsoever ! What do you think the mob is ? It is,and was formed as an underground Secret society ! You think just because there's a few busts its DEAD,ITS ELIMINATED ? You have lots to learn ! And don't tell me shit,I've spent many years in prison just for some imbecile to tell me how it goes !!

Re: Where is the 5 families modern "base". [Re: MrJustsayNo] #901317
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Originally Posted By: MrJustsayNo
And where are you from Mr Marcow? UK? Australia? Saudi Arabia? The suburbs? North Dakota? Its not my fault you have no clue what goes on ? The Mob is everywhere, its the truth ! You post on OC board and have no clue whatsoever ! What do you think the mob is ? It is,and was formed as an underground Secret society ! You think just because there's a few busts its DEAD,ITS ELIMINATED ? You have lots to learn ! And don't tell me shit,I've spent many years in prison just for some imbecile to tell me how it goes !!


What did you do time for?

Re: Where is the 5 families modern "base". [Re: ralphie_cifaretto] #901318
12/11/16 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto
Originally Posted By: MrJustsayNo
And where are you from Mr Marcow? UK? Australia? Saudi Arabia? The suburbs? North Dakota? Its not my fault you have no clue what goes on ? The Mob is everywhere, its the truth ! You post on OC board and have no clue whatsoever ! What do you think the mob is ? It is,and was formed as an underground Secret society ! You think just because there's a few busts its DEAD,ITS ELIMINATED ? You have lots to learn ! And don't tell me shit,I've spent many years in prison just for some imbecile to tell me how it goes !!


What did you do time for?


Sodomy.


I invoke my right under the 5th amendment of the United States constitution and decline to answer the question.
Re: Where is the 5 families modern "base". [Re: ralphie_cifaretto] #901320
12/11/16 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto
Originally Posted By: MrJustsayNo
And where are you from Mr Marcow? UK? Australia? Saudi Arabia? The suburbs? North Dakota? Its not my fault you have no clue what goes on ? The Mob is everywhere, its the truth ! You post on OC board and have no clue whatsoever ! What do you think the mob is ? It is,and was formed as an underground Secret society ! You think just because there's a few busts its DEAD,ITS ELIMINATED ? You have lots to learn ! And don't tell me shit,I've spent many years in prison just for some imbecile to tell me how it goes !!


What did you do time for?


Well, if stupidity was a crime.

Re: Where is the 5 families modern "base". [Re: Flushing] #901323
12/11/16 12:18 PM
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MrJustSayNo, you claim to merely "post things you've read", and you literally just said that "EVERYTHING" you've posted you read about and re-posted, dead links and all. Yet you're trying to tell actual NY'ers how their neighborhoods are, claiming you live there, which one is it? I highly doubt there are more than 2 active social clubs in Bensonhurst, mafia hangouts no less. Simply because the demographic isn't there anymore. This is NY where there is literally a camera posted on every single street corner. How and where are these guys hanging out so secretly, that they have yet to be captured on any of these surveillance cameras, loitering outside social clubs, yet you seem to notice them every time you walk by....


See how your claims don't add up?

Re: Where is the 5 families modern "base". [Re: MrJustsayNo] #901331
12/11/16 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted By: MrJustsayNo
And where are you from Mr Marcow? UK? Australia? Saudi Arabia? The suburbs? North Dakota? Its not my fault you have no clue what goes on ? The Mob is everywhere, its the truth ! You post on OC board and have no clue whatsoever ! What do you think the mob is ? It is,and was formed as an underground Secret society ! You think just because there's a few busts its DEAD,ITS ELIMINATED ? You have lots to learn ! And don't tell me shit,I've spent many years in prison just for some imbecile to tell me how it goes !!


And you're becoming a real pain-in-the-ass with your flaming remarks. You haven't been here even one month and you've already managed to get everyone riled up. Stop this crap NOW!! You won't be warned again.


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Re: Where is the 5 families modern "base". [Re: SinatraClub] #901332
12/11/16 01:32 PM
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I live in Brooklyn ! I lived in Queens and Brooklyn my entire life ! I'll clarify again for the millionth time,Because I know it is hard for the semi illiterate here on this site ! You stated that I post about defunct families,Cleveland,ybor city etc.Which I have never posted !! Now,if you actually read my posts and understood what you were reading,I posted articles on KC, and Buffalo and something on N O. ! I also said a few times that there is info ,current ,about mob cases,members,families,etc all over the place ! I have people claiming everything over here,The documents,articles,are fake ,This one is a troll,that one is a troll,this one lies, etc etc etc !! I'm putting this to rest ! You don't have to like what I post ,Or, like what I say ! As far as NYC goes I live here !

Re: Where is the 5 families modern "base". [Re: Flushing] #901336
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mr. no. what high school did you attend in bklyn if you do not mind me asking..also your age..so i can see how or where your roots come from.maybe you know some guys or girls i know or someone like wheels knows.maybe this can help with your posts just try and stay calm and enjoy the board I'm sure we all can get good info from you instead of everyone insulting each other that has no place on this board.

Re: Where is the 5 families modern "base". [Re: Flushing] #901338
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i lived in bath beach for decades, so i knew or know many people and places..who had the best ices? lol

Re: Where is the 5 families modern "base". [Re: Flushing] #901647
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If I were an aging member of LCN operating in old Brooklyn or Bronx, I'd be afraid of getting carjacked or stuck up by the new element in "the old neighborhood". F that! And don't give me that "tough old guy" nonsense. The last thing one of these geriatric crooks wants to do is pull out his unregistered roscoe on some local hood trying to rob him of his Town Car, just to violate his parole or 3rd strike his ass up to Albion for his next 36 social security checks. I would set up shop in Westchester or Jersey faster than you can say "Jerk Chicken on a stick".


F. Mazola, Esq.
Re: Where is the 5 families modern "base". [Re: bronx] #901649
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I go to Dolly's in Mill basin, Villabate bnsnhurst,or L&B ! Other than that I'll take a ride over by Lemon ice king Corona.If its Coffee/espresso, My cuz owns Porto Rico imports Coffee and he loads me up on Coffee/espresso of every kind ! I don't know y they named it Porto Rico ? They're all Sicilian,lol !

Re: Where is the 5 families modern "base". [Re: MrJustsayNo] #901652
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Originally Posted By: MrJustsayNo
I go to Dolly's in Mill basin, Villabate bnsnhurst,or L&B ! Other than that I'll take a ride over by Lemon ice king Corona.If its Coffee/espresso, My cuz owns Porto Rico imports Coffee and he loads me up on Coffee/espresso of every kind ! I don't know y they named it Porto Rico ? They're all Sicilian,lol !


You may go to those places. I would like to believe you about the mob social clubs you claim exists there, but it is just not so. You mentioned places that were close to social clubs from years back, you just failed to name the address. Such as......Paulie Zac had a social club at 7716 18th avenue. The west side civic club which was a Gambino/Colombo place used to be at 8009 17th avenue. Up the road and a couple blocks over was a recent Bonanno club called the Banner Social club at 2009 72nd street. not far from there was Joey Scopo's place the Tazza Villa del Golfo at 7021 20th avenue. Farther up the road you had Genovese soldier Johnny Russo's club at 1980 63rd street. These clubs (besides the Banner) no longer exist to my knowledge. But be specific with your information if you want to be taken more seriously.

Re: Where is the 5 families modern "base". [Re: Flushing] #901661
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Friendly tip- in ny city no one says 'up the road'. Up the block, or down the block.


Btw Yates-if this link is about you, i might be able to help you. Dickie Fuscos place on 11th between 65 & 66 was a candy store. At one time candy stores were a popular 'front'. If you research it that way it might help you get the street address that youre looking for.

http://gangstersinc.ning.com/profiles/blogs/new-map-shows-mob-social-clubs-in-new-york


All God's children are not beautiful. Most of God's children are, in fact, barely presentable.


I never met anyone who didn't have a very smart child. What happens to these children, you wonder, when they reach adulthood?



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MrJustSayNo is probably Dicknose, or some other weirdo that's been banned from here. Pretty much every post of his is so obviously bullshit.

Re: Where is the 5 families modern "base". [Re: MrJustsayNo] #901764
12/14/16 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted By: MrJustsayNo
I never Posted about,CLEVELAND,YBOR CITY,OR THE STUFF YOU MENTIONED ! ITS OBVIOUS YOU ARE IGNORANT AND FULL OF SHIT,AND A STRAIGHT UP LIAR !! I JUST POSTED STUFF THAT IS DOCUMENTED AND ON THE INTERNET,YOU SHOULD REREAD MY POSTS AND THEN COME BACK WITH YOUR SELF IN ORDER AND YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT !!! @Sinatraclub


Mrjustsayno- dude i tried to tell you 3 fuckin times the way in which you post , the all caps, and the insanely methed the fuck out frequency that you post old and invalid articles in some cases makes everyone here suspicious and think you're a troll.. i mean look at the hate you're getting.. i tried to warn you to calm the fuck down, not start so many threads, and def don't argue with established knowledgeable guys like alex, sinatra, Sonny, vegas mikey, bronx, Yates, hellonwheels, etc... I believe that you know some valuable info and would like to listen to what you say but if you keep this shit up its only gonna get worse... no one likes a know it all and especially one who posts rapid fire looneytunes shit and in all caps... again im not telling you what to do and not saying my word means anything but you see the reaction you're getting?

I only say shit ive read, i ask questions from the solid great respectful guys and gals here and i dont start shit with anyone bc I disagree w them... just sayin dude take a breath.... and no one thats joined this board 3 weeks ago should have as many posts and threads created as you do unless you're stickin bath salts in ur ass or are trolling..

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Originally Posted By: mikeyballs211
Originally Posted By: MrJustsayNo
I never Posted about,CLEVELAND,YBOR CITY,OR THE STUFF YOU MENTIONED ! ITS OBVIOUS YOU ARE IGNORANT AND FULL OF SHIT,AND A STRAIGHT UP LIAR !! I JUST POSTED STUFF THAT IS DOCUMENTED AND ON THE INTERNET,YOU SHOULD REREAD MY POSTS AND THEN COME BACK WITH YOUR SELF IN ORDER AND YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT !!! @Sinatraclub


Mrjustsayno- dude i tried to tell you 3 fuckin times the way in which you post , the all caps, and the insanely methed the fuck out frequency that you post old and invalid articles in some cases makes everyone here suspicious and think you're a troll.. i mean look at the hate you're getting.. i tried to warn you to calm the fuck down, not start so many threads, and def don't argue with established knowledgeable guys like alex, sinatra, Sonny, vegas mikey, bronx, Yates, hellonwheels, etc... I believe that you know some valuable info and would like to listen to what you say but if you keep this shit up its only gonna get worse... no one likes a know it all and especially one who posts rapid fire looneytunes shit and in all caps... again im not telling you what to do and not saying my word means anything but you see the reaction you're getting?

I only say shit ive read, i ask questions from the solid great respectful guys and gals here and i dont start shit with anyone bc I disagree w them... just sayin dude take a breath.... and no one thats joined this board 3 weeks ago should have as many posts and threads created as you do unless you're stickin bath salts in ur ass or are trolling..


I admire your patience and politeness Mikey, you're an absolute gentleman in my book grin


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Re: Where is the 5 families modern "base". [Re: BillyBrizzi] #901884
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Originally Posted By: BillyBrizzi
Originally Posted By: mikeyballs211
Originally Posted By: MrJustsayNo
I never Posted about,CLEVELAND,YBOR CITY,OR THE STUFF YOU MENTIONED ! ITS OBVIOUS YOU ARE IGNORANT AND FULL OF SHIT,AND A STRAIGHT UP LIAR !! I JUST POSTED STUFF THAT IS DOCUMENTED AND ON THE INTERNET,YOU SHOULD REREAD MY POSTS AND THEN COME BACK WITH YOUR SELF IN ORDER AND YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT !!! @Sinatraclub


Mrjustsayno- dude i tried to tell you 3 fuckin times the way in which you post , the all caps, and the insanely methed the fuck out frequency that you post old and invalid articles in some cases makes everyone here suspicious and think you're a troll.. i mean look at the hate you're getting.. i tried to warn you to calm the fuck down, not start so many threads, and def don't argue with established knowledgeable guys like alex, sinatra, Sonny, vegas mikey, bronx, Yates, hellonwheels, etc... I believe that you know some valuable info and would like to listen to what you say but if you keep this shit up its only gonna get worse... no one likes a know it all and especially one who posts rapid fire looneytunes shit and in all caps... again im not telling you what to do and not saying my word means anything but you see the reaction you're getting?

I only say shit ive read, i ask questions from the solid great respectful guys and gals here and i dont start shit with anyone bc I disagree w them... just sayin dude take a breath.... and no one thats joined this board 3 weeks ago should have as many posts and threads created as you do unless you're stickin bath salts in ur ass or are trolling..


I admire your patience and politeness Mikey, you're an absolute gentleman in my book grin


I appreciate that Billy...always look forward to reading your knowledgeable posts...im not sure if he is a troll or not i cant tell..but shit that many posts outta the gate aimt a good sign..happy holidays pal


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