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Genovese/Bonanno/Gambino/Lucchese NJ gambling bust #900846
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http://www.northjersey.com/story/news/be...s-say/95019340/

http://www.northjersey.com/story/news/be...flare/95017790/

Genovese soldier, Joe Gatto, son of deceased ex Genovese capo, Streaky Gatto, among those arrested.

The Colombo's always seem to be out of the loop with these things.


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Re: Genovese/Bonanno/Gambino/Lucchese NJ gambling bust [Re: Moe_Tilden] #900852
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Such consistent activity in NJ. More so than in NYC by a longshot.

Re: Genovese/Bonanno/Gambino/Lucchese NJ gambling bust [Re: Moe_Tilden] #900872
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So i know Joe Gatto is dead, but according to the article he wasnt one or the Genovese skippers in nj, who's crew was he in? Devita?

The hit on Lagano is still unsolved snd doesn't sound like they habe any leads, but just speculation do you guys think the Lucchese's had him clipped or was it the Genovese with Lucchese approval since they were in charge of this case?

Side note but Ninny Bruschi and Silvio Devita are two very powerful active
Skippers in NJ and have been for over a decade now possibly longer but not much is known about them.. anyone have any insight on either of them? Iwonder if they have acting capos to do mire of the face to face shit? Could maybe do separate threads on them and dont wanna sidetrack the thread, but any info would be much appreciated as always


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Re: Genovese/Bonanno/Gambino/Lucchese NJ gambling bust [Re: Moe_Tilden] #900875
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The guy devita must be getting up there 80tyish. Read ue did like 20yrs for killinh a cop or was there during a robbery gone bad back in the 60tys he comes up in sam the plumbers books.

Re: Genovese/Bonanno/Gambino/Lucchese NJ gambling bust [Re: Moe_Tilden] #900902
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That bust here in Jersey was 12 years ago.

Silvio DeVita lives in a GORGEOUS bayfront house in Toms River, Toms River area is traditionally a big DeCavalcante living and operating area. Silvio is Newark area Capo, so he lives in Toms River at the beach and operates in Newark area.

Re: Genovese/Bonanno/Gambino/Lucchese NJ gambling bust [Re: Moe_Tilden] #900903
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Also, before you guys go to Google, I will save you the time. There was a Silvio DeVita who died a few years ago in Toms River, but is not the Genovese Newark Area Capo Silvio DeVita. Same name and lived in the same city....

Re: Genovese/Bonanno/Gambino/Lucchese NJ gambling bust [Re: Moe_Tilden] #900928
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Both toms river and brick are filled with transplants from the newark area, all 5 crews have always operated there. That was never dominated by the elizabeth crew even though many of them may live in the area. The lucchese's controlled both the seaside and the pt pleasant boardwalk. Back in the 70's and early 80's alot of bonanno guys from the lower east side hung in seaside.
Gotti had a meeting in seaside heights in the late 80's.
Temptations was owned by a guy with ties to the genovese before he sold it in the mid 90's.

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Re: Genovese/Bonanno/Gambino/Lucchese NJ gambling bust [Re: Moe_Tilden] #900929
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Belmont-

From the 1990s-present I have seen mostly Decavalcantes living and operating in the Toms River/Brick area.

Yes, I agree the other 5 families have a huge presence in the area, especially Seaside.

Re: Genovese/Bonanno/Gambino/Lucchese NJ gambling bust [Re: Moe_Tilden] #900932
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Some elizabeth guys may live there but that means nothing. There are a few guys from various crews that live in both toms river and brick. I also know a rather important lucchese guy that lives there as well as a gambino. The elizabeth crew is small. There are more guys from various other crews and associated in thta area. You also have some brooklyn amd staten islanders living there. Italians like the shore for whatever reason.
The elizabeth crew is basically elizabeth, linden, rochelle park, clark, union, and colonia. Thats where many of those guys lived.

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Re: Genovese/Bonanno/Gambino/Lucchese NJ gambling bust [Re: Flushing] #900990
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Originally Posted By: Flushing
Such consistent activity in NJ. More so than in NYC by a longshot.


For arrests anyway !!

Re: Genovese/Bonanno/Gambino/Lucchese NJ gambling bust [Re: Moe_Tilden] #900991
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That prosecutor know its not gonna put a dent in to anything...I gave up gambling around 10 years ago and I used to put my bets through that datawagers...They were busted a few times since and never shut down...

The prosecutors want the headlines and the money, and that's all they really care about !!

Re: Genovese/Bonanno/Gambino/Lucchese NJ gambling bust [Re: Moe_Tilden] #901005
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I don't believe there is any large operation of any kind in Brick or Toms River areas. There may be small time operations but the thought that all five families operate and have crews there is a bit much. The central NJ area is not a hot bed of OC activity and to my knowledge Middlesex, Monmouth and Ocean don't even have OC Units in the county offices. They're probably more focused on the gangs and their drug activity. Doesn't mean the occasional OC arrest doesn't happen. Just my opinion. Interesting subject nevertheless.

Re: Genovese/Bonanno/Gambino/Lucchese NJ gambling bust [Re: Moe_Tilden] #901012
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There's a lot of activity at the Jersey Shore, you couldn't be more wrong.

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Not to pick a fight, but could you back up your opinion with facts? If so, I'd like to read them as I'm sure others would. And, I will acknowledge I was wrong. But now, all I read and hear about are basically old cases with a few new incidents thrown in. Hardly, a five family operation supported by "A lot of activity at the Jersey Shore" comment that lacks any factual support as of now.

Re: Genovese/Bonanno/Gambino/Lucchese NJ gambling bust [Re: Moe_Tilden] #901019
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I'm not gonna take the bait..........

Re: Genovese/Bonanno/Gambino/Lucchese NJ gambling bust [Re: majicrat] #901021
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Majicrat is spot on....I've never heard of actual crews from the 5 families operating in that area. Activity yes, but not crews as we think of them. Anybody have any names they know of? Very interesting topic though.

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Originally Posted By: majicrat
Not to pick a fight, but could you back up your opinion with facts? If so, I'd like to read them as I'm sure others would. And, I will acknowledge I was wrong. But now, all I read and hear about are basically old cases with a few new incidents thrown in. Hardly, a five family operation supported by "A lot of activity at the Jersey Shore" comment that lacks any factual support as of now.


With all do respect majicrat, but Dante lives in the area and is a credible poster so you can take his word on it. The lack of recent indictments doesn't have to mean a lack of activity but most likely a shift in law enforcement priorities.


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Re: Genovese/Bonanno/Gambino/Lucchese NJ gambling bust [Re: Moe_Tilden] #901025
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Living in toms river/ brick and having operations there are 2 different things.
To think that the shore area has no made guys living there is simply untrue.
I can tell you the shore has always been controlled by new york. Back in the 80's wiseguys controlled the construction industry.
Today, its basically gambling and shylocking. A lot of the guys that live at the shore travel up north once or twice per week to conduct business. In that sense, most of the business and operations are based in north jersey and NYC.
There are probably more italians living in the shore area than bloomfield, nutley, and belleville put together times 10.

central jersey ( old bridge, freehold, manalapan) has quite a few made guys originally from brooklyn living there. That is a fact.

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I agree with you that there are quite a few made NY guys living in NJ, especially the shore areas. I'm talking about what was mentioned about "crews" from all 5 families operating there. No doubt individual members but actual crews?

Re: Genovese/Bonanno/Gambino/Lucchese NJ gambling bust [Re: Belmont] #901053
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Temptations , lol , man Belmont you have been around , best poster here - some serious kids were moving an insane amount of E in seaside ( some similarities to oxy i suppose ) , guys moving 5k a month in those vacuum sealed packs , clearing $3 per . stick up crews that just focused on that or selling bunk . Jenks was owned by those guys into the early 2000s I think before it went away . Used to see them come in every Monday. Seems like forever ago but it really wasn't , totally different world on just 15-20 years

Re: Genovese/Bonanno/Gambino/Lucchese NJ gambling bust [Re: Moe_Tilden] #901074
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C'mon DB, dont even get me going with the Sound Factory..lol
I know all too well about the E and K biz back in the day.
From Rotterdam to jersey.

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Originally Posted By: Belmont



central jersey ( old bridge, freehold, manalapan) has quite a few made guys originally from brooklyn living there. That is a fact.


Vouch. Im a bklyn transplant and live in Monmouth county now. Lots of people i grew up with in the area.


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Re: Genovese/Bonanno/Gambino/Lucchese NJ gambling bust [Re: Belmont] #901079
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Originally Posted By: Belmont
Living in toms river/ brick and having operations there are 2 different things.
To think that the shore area has no made guys living there is simply untrue.
I can tell you the shore has always been controlled by new york. Back in the 80's wiseguys controlled the construction industry.
Today, its basically gambling and shylocking. A lot of the guys that live at the shore travel up north once or twice per week to conduct business. In that sense, most of the business and operations are based in north jersey and NYC.
There are probably more italians living in the shore area than bloomfield, nutley, and belleville put together times 10.

central jersey ( old bridge, freehold, manalapan) has quite a few made guys originally from brooklyn living there. That is a fact.


Haha fuckk belmont and db brought back a distant memory.. first time i took E was at Temptations got it off some shady fuck in the mensroom.. shit me and my boys had a great night snuck in at 19 using my frat bros id and got blown at the house we were crashing at in seaside, christ that was 12 yrs ago and the only time ive been to seaside... us philly guys usually went to LBI, AC, Brigantine, Sea Isle , Margate and Avalon

If Dante is saying something about Jersey id take it to be fuckin fact..he's one of the best posters here always honest bout what he knows and doesn't know iw and when it comes to that area especially...not to put words in his mouth but i think he's asserting there's members from all 5 fams there and def some Genovese and Lucchese crews that are heavy operational there..i could be wrong but I don't think hes saying all 5 families have crews in fuckin toms river nj lol i mean its not that big

Dante- i looked up Devitas home in Toms and yea its nice but not too nice to draw attention frkm the outside.. his street has alotta nice homes ....cant beat right on the bay....

Side note but I used to have a family home in LBI in Harvey cedars.. is there any OC activity or crews there? Its kinda on the border of traditional philly/ny turf so curious as to
Who would be there

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Re: Genovese/Bonanno/Gambino/Lucchese NJ gambling bust [Re: majicrat] #901094
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Originally Posted By: majicrat
Not to pick a fight, but could you back up your opinion with facts? If so, I'd like to read them as I'm sure others would. And, I will acknowledge I was wrong. But now, all I read and hear about are basically old cases with a few new incidents thrown in. Hardly, a five family operation supported by "A lot of activity at the Jersey Shore" comment that lacks any factual support as of now.

Dante knows his shit my man. I Can co sign that.

Re: Genovese/Bonanno/Gambino/Lucchese NJ gambling bust [Re: Belmont] #901103
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Always like your posts Bmont , always credible . DM as well

The E trade in the late 90s early 2000s was pretty crazy . Didn't see much K but that was by choice

Saw 20-22 year old normal every day kids go from nothing to moving 1000s of pills a week/month in what seemed like a very short time frame . Literally nothing to something , setting up distro thru college kids in PA to lock down their schools market and frats , these are some of the moves these guys were doing .

Just to give some a sense of a pretty nutty time , I hung with a big E dealer , his crew was moving multiple sealed packs a week but the kid was a DARE cop in Bayonne . Try your nerves on that one , buying and being handed multiple packs directly from a dare cop ( not me of course ). If that isn't crazy enough you would think that position would scare away the stick up kids right . Well I was with them when they put guns in our faces and it was for a measley $10k, they were wearing cargo pants and I don't think they even said a word , just ripped the pockets out/off , a set up as they knew each other. after the good early times that's how that business went , set ups and rip offs all the time amongst people you knew, to the point where it was a must u had protection and not worth it ( if you were in that biz ) A lot of similarities between E and oxy trade IMO

Re: Genovese/Bonanno/Gambino/Lucchese NJ gambling bust [Re: Moe_Tilden] #901113
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LBI is free of mobsters and in general is more of a WASP destination. It's split pretty much 50/50 of People from NY area and Philly area. However, as recent as 11 years ago there was an old Philly LCN guy from the Scarfo era living on LBI and working in construction, but he has been completely out of the life for 25+ years.

Little tidbit: Nicky Jr once rented in the Toms River area (Seaside Heights) back in the late 80s and early 90s. Tony Buck Piccolo also had a house in Toms River back in the day.

I meant that a lot of LCN guys from Luchesse, Gambino, Genovese, and DeCavalcantes live in Toms River area. The March 2015 DeCavalcante bust was of a very active crew in the Toms River area run Day to day by Stango's son with the elder Stango being the Capo.

The Toms River area has a lot of gambling and Shylock activity. Also, a lot of the Seaside Heights clubs and businesses are owned by connected guys and a lot of the door money at these places goes straight to LCN. There's also a lot of drug activity at these clubs in the summer that is controlled by some of the younger guys.

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Interesting topic and still haven't read any facts. A lot of opinions and back slapping that this poster or that poster knows. Why. Because they say they know this and that without providing any current facts. Sure activity exists and sure the clubs probably have some connection but any more than a mere presence is pure fantasy. The whole idea that the shore is hot with activity due to gambling is nonsense. I'm sorry, there are people taking action all over the shore and they are not connected. So until I'm reading current facts not speculation based on what some would like it to be and not what it is I'll maintain its not a hotbed of LCN activity. I do agree there are a lot of Italians from north jersey and New York that doesn't mean mobsters. Tons of Irish too, does that mean the we sties regrouped and settled there? Just my opinion just like all the above comments, opinions. Enjoy reading them, thanks.

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Originally Posted By: majicrat
Interesting topic and still haven't read any facts. A lot of opinions and back slapping that this poster or that poster knows. Why. Because they say they know this and that without providing any current facts. Sure activity exists and sure the clubs probably have some connection but any more than a mere presence is pure fantasy. The whole idea that the shore is hot with activity due to gambling is nonsense. I'm sorry, there are people taking action all over the shore and they are not connected. So until I'm reading current facts not speculation based on what some would like it to be and not what it is I'll maintain its not a hotbed of LCN activity. I do agree there are a lot of Italians from north jersey and New York that doesn't mean mobsters. Tons of Irish too, does that mean the we sties regrouped and settled there? Just my opinion just like all the above comments, opinions. Enjoy reading them, thanks.



Aren't you from like Slovakia or some shit? How the hell would you know what goes on over here in the tri-state? You wouldn't. I remember you from the RD forums and you used to preach all this crap about Bosnian & Albian gangsters being tougher than the Italians and all this other nonsense. Fact is, the Five Families still exist in NY, ALL OF THEM. Those families still have crews which operate in Jersey. And recently, as in the past 5 years or so, NJ has had more reported mob activity than NY.

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You dontt remember me from anywhere, I rarely say anything because I know to have a different opinion here is inviting scorn from the more common posters. I was only making my opinion known just as most of the other posters do. Still no facts to back up the comments btw. Here's some advice Sinatra, you don't know me and no one on this board does. So before you make accusations about where anyone is from or who or what they are knowledgable about think twice. You couldn't be me wrong about who you think i am or where I'm from. When you rebuke a comment try being accurate about what you're rebuking so you'll have some credibility. I never said the five families didn't exist in my. Lol we were discussing the jersey shore. And I don't dispute they are in no, however until you provide facts that the toms river and brick areas have all five families operating crews there on a huge presence as some have said above is not realistic at all. I stand by that until someone posts facts that prove I'm wrong and I will gladly say I'm wrong. Until then I believe I'm correct. Slovakia? That's some funny stuff.

Re: Genovese/Bonanno/Gambino/Lucchese NJ gambling bust [Re: DanteMoltisanti] #901172
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Originally Posted By: DanteMoltisanti
There's a lot of activity at the Jersey Shore, you couldn't be more wrong.



Right on Dante: the area from far north jersey west and south right into Philly right down the shore is killing it .

So many little towns and townships that people in city hall just don't know all the names like in NY and the families are obviously doing much more than expected .


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