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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #895247
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Anyone know why those weapons of mass destruction were not found in Iraq? Mostly world war 1 mustard gas and now Mustard gas has been used in Syria.

I was told years ago by Russians who were in a position to know that the Russian Army took them out of Iraq and brought them to Syria just before the first American attack on Iraq. The US army did not inspect those Russian army trucks when they left Iraq.


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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Ciment] #895254
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Originally Posted By: Ciment


He will lower taxes to companies that have money offshore, this will bring at least 2 trillions for companies to invest in the U.S. He will force manufacturers to built in the U.S. and create jobs. He will reign excess government spending. He will lower taxes for the middle class and companies to stimulate the economy.


There's a lot here in this post that I'm curious about, but most of all the bolded part.


It's a two part question:

Why do you think that power lies with the president?

What exactly do you think can be done to force manufacturers to manufacture goods in the USA?


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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: helenwheels] #895267
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I agree, I should of used encourage, it was an error on my part.

They can encourage companies to stay in the U.S by lowering taxes and having less regulations. But if they still decide to leave, then their products built abroad will be subject to a tariff tax on goods entering the U.S.

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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #895269
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That's right that is why we should vote for him plus he will put Supreme Court judges on the bench who actually will follow the constitution.


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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #895270
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i like buying products made in the United States I hate buying products made in other countries even if they are good like the IPad. I would not minding paying more for them either.

The Japanese and the Germans rather buy their own products then any other countries products we should be like that. It should not only being about buying things cheaper. If our companies knew that fact they would start making them here again.

I believe most people living here are patriots except Oak of course.


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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Footreads] #895271
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Amen to that !

Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Footreads] #895272
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Originally Posted By: Footreads
i It should not only being about buying things cheaper. If our companies knew that fact they would start making them here again.



Our companies do know that fact. Also, many of our companies are also trying to sell to the (much larger) global market, and not just the US market. Something rather important to consider.




We tried implementing a large protectionist tariff on tires a few years ago. (It didn't go very well.)


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The tariff also forced consumers to spend $1.1 billion more on tires than they otherwise would have — or roughly $900,000 per U.S. tire industry job created. And retaliatory tariffs imposed by the Chinese further hurt our economy. In early 2010, China’s Ministry of Commerce imposed tariffs ranging from 50.3 to 105.4 percent on American poultry imports, which “reduced exports by $1 billion as U.S. poultry firms experienced a 90 percent collapse in their exports of chicken parts to China,”

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/432462/donald-trump-protectionist-tariffs-hurt-working-class


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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #895273
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Businesses don't take Donald Trump seriously. They know how he made it. He never ran a product driven business. He's a salesman. Real estate. That's it. You know those people who work as real estate agents? They tell you how successful they are, they give your their card, they're always wearing a suit, yet they somehow still live with their parents? Donald Trump is basically the top of that chain, and, he lives off of his parents, too. His dad's friends loan him money every time he fails.


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Donald Trump is the lizard king of delusional salespeople all across America. He's like their god.


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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #895275
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You know all about living at home with mom don't you. I am betting Dad took a powder when you were born.

I got your number a long time ago.


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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: helenwheels] #895276
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I am aware that China at first will try to retaliate.There will be an adjustment period.The U.S can weather the storm. China has a more fragile economy than what many people think. The status quo cannot exist anymore, they manipulate their currency, they create knock products, steal technology and at the end of the day the U.S has over 500 billion dollars in trade deficit with them. They will have to trade fairly if they want to do business.
Whatever products the U.S needs to import can easily be made elsewhere like India or other Asian countries that can respect fair trade.

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Do you have any idea how much money a really good sales man can make in a year.

More then you will ever see that is for damn sure.


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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #895278
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Shocker, but I've learned in this topic that Trump supporters have absolutely zero idea how international trade works.

Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #895280
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There's nothing wrong with being a salesperson. Some are good people. I'd say the more necessary the product is to the quality of life in general and the more ethical the company is, the better of a person the salesperson is. Then, there's Trump and the salespeople that follow his model. Making the sale at all costs. Lying. Begging. Borrowing. Stealing. Empty on the inside. Soulless. They've never made anything great, much less America.


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I've been importing from Asia for about 25 years, so I feel I have a good grasp of China's economy, a good part of my business depends on it.

We don't have a $500 bil trade def with China, it's more like 365-370 billion. Also, China is our third largest export market. That would be quite a blow to the US economy if it were cut off. We might not be able to weather that.

In addition we have a services trade surplus with China, currently running about $30 billion.(Then of course, we have US FDI in China corporate stocks, currently about $70 billion. )

Now, of course, many of the dollars from deficit actually do flow back into the US, through things such as real estate. 'Trade deficit' may sound horrible, but it seems widely misunderstood.


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Having some kind of protectionist trade war with China would not be good for our economy.
China is often accused of being currency manipulators when the US is the biggest currency manipulator in the world.

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Originally Posted By: SoCalGangs
Having some kind of protectionist trade war with China would not be good for our economy.
China is often accused of being currency manipulators when the US is the biggest currency manipulator in the world.


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Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
Reading that post of yours earlier about the problems in the middle east, all I saw were Democrat names. After the holes Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld put into the earth? Come on.


i dont give a fuck democrat or republican none of these guys are good people all made mistakes and all have done bad things obviously bush has done alot more damage than clinton obama and kerry never said otherwise i was talking about some of the most recent events which have happened under the obama administration libya egypt are both examples of major mistakes by the US.

US foreign policy as a whole has been disaster for a long time always making the same mistakes dont learn from history


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Sorry for the confusion
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China. Russia. The Middle East.

Clinton can't deal with these issues. She's weak. She's a girl.

Donald Trump will negotiate tough.

What does that mean?

It doesn't mean anything.

He just says it because it sounds good. And, suckers buy it. It's what salesman do.


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According to some of you China experts. We should surrender to China and let them walk over us. I feel much better now to know that it is only 370 billion dollar trade deficit.Let's put our heads in the sand and hope it will go away.

I am amazed that there is only a one way perception like it will be a blow to the US economy.
You should look at this as a two way perception. If it is a blow to the US, it will be a blow to China as well.
This is where diplomacy and good negotiating must take place and let China know that if they do not comply there will be serious economic consequences or they will suffer more. All what Trump wants is a fair trade where both parties win. Is that too much to ask ?
It time to grow some balls instead of bending down to them..

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Gangsterrport,

Keep telling me how you don't care about political parties while sharing one list after another of Democrats you blame for everything. It's quite entertaining.


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It is not a protectionist trade, it is called fair trade where both parties win.

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"Hillary will surrender to China!!!"



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I guess we're at war with China now. lol.

Trump will win the wars that America's not even in.

Let's see Hillary do that.


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Nobody spoke of war. The subject was about the economy. Please explain where you got that or are you just going to throw spaghetti again on the wall and hope that it will stick. You seem to be good at that. Maybe George Soros will find you a job at $15/hr to create havoc at Trump rallies. Funny the left doesn't speak of the other billionaire.

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Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
Reading that post of yours earlier about the problems in the middle east, all I saw were Democrat names. After the holes Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld put into the earth? Come on.


i dont give a fuck democrat or republican none of these guys are good people all made mistakes and all have done bad things obviously bush has done alot more damage than clinton obama and kerry never said otherwise i was talking about some of the most recent events which have happened under the obama administration libya egypt are both examples of major mistakes by the US.

US foreign policy as a whole has been disaster for a long time always making the same mistakes dont learn from history


Real talk right there gangstereport.

Truth is that American foreign policy is largely bi-partisan and has been for decades and decades with only a few minor differences, mostly in rhetoric. The war party has been in charge and members of that party belong to both the democratic and republican establishment.

oak is super partisan, it's like trying to reason with somebody belonging to a cult. He is incapable of being objective due to his extreme warped worldview.

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Originally Posted By: Ciment
According to some of you China experts. We should surrender to China and let them walk over us. I feel much better now to know that it is only 370 billion dollar trade deficit.Let's put our heads in the sand and hope it will go away.

I am amazed that there is only a one way perception like it will be a blow to the US economy.


I'm missing the part where anyone called for a 'surrender.' Also having trouble finding where anyone is only seeing this as one way. We live in a global economy now, it's not the 1950s. Of course it will impact China. And it will impact all of the foreign (many of which are American) owned companies that manufacture in China, which in turn will have other widely felt repercussions.

So what's the plan in regard to issues like that?

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This is where diplomacy and good negotiating must take place and let China know that if they do not comply there will be serious economic consequences or they will suffer more.



It sounds like you mean we should threaten them with force if they dont agree to trade terms. But i dont want to assume that without your clarification.


Also, do you think there is widespread support in the legislative branch for a trade war? Do you foresee any potential issues there?


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I forgot to mention in my earlier post that although I may disagree at times, I value your insight.It is just that someone else, whom does not deserve to be mentioned, got the best of me by his foolish remarks. Thanks for pointing out the 370 billion.

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Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
China. Russia. The Middle East.

Clinton can't deal with these issues. She's weak. She's a girl.

Donald Trump will negotiate tough.

What does that mean?

It doesn't mean anything.

He just says it because it sounds good. And, suckers buy it. It's what salesman do.



china, russia, middle east, every other country in the world have no respect for trump

atleast they've met and know hillary clinton

trump is a miserable billionaire loser trying to add president to his bucket list

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Remember just a couple of weeks ago they said Hillary Clinton was dying of some cough, and was unfit to be president for health reasons?

She turns out to be fine.

She mops the floor with Trump's orange weave in the debate.

Now they're coming up with all of these crazy scenarios about how the middle east will become unraveled, we'll be in a nuclear war with Russia, and China will take over our economy and convert us to the yen or something.

Desperation, anyone?

Amusing, if nothing else.


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