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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #894907
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Now Trump's campaign team doesn't want the media fact checking them.

http://mediamatters.org/video/2016/09/25...checkers/213294


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could very well be the debates that decide it, can't see trump getting the best of Hillary Monday night. if he's called on his lies, it could be a game changer.



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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #894913
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Originally Posted By: Binnie_Coll
could very well be the debates that decide it, can't see trump getting the best of Hillary Monday night. if he's called on his lies, it could be a game changer.


The fact that Hillary lied to the families of Bengahzi victims does not seem to bother you. Notwithstanding the lies given to the FBI,congress and destruction of evidence. Trump's lies dwarf in comparison to Hillary's.

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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #894921
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Her Parkinson's must be improving. It's back to Benghazi again.


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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: OakAsFan] #894936
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Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
Her Parkinson's must be improving. It's back to Benghazi again.
Guess the media fact checkers can't bring up Benghazi right. Why not? Can the media only fact check your candidates rival, but not your candidate herself?

Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #894942
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How many times should they ask her about an event in which she's been cleared of any wrong doing?


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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #894955
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The public wants more answers. Here's an idea opponents of Hillary: lets go start a fucking riot until she gets what she deserves. Thats the mindset of her supporters.

Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #894956
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Hillary's already getting everything she wants. The riots are over police murdering people.


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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #894958
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So the other day Trump's son said his dad "came from nothing"? omg.


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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: OakAsFan] #894960
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Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
So the other day Trump's son said his dad "came from nothing"? omg.


Here is the double standard again. A Republican says something to the effect that the words do not come out right by mistake, then the media will pick up on that mistake. On the other hand Hillary will slur her words, and CNN the Clinton Network will edit the tape or cut off any words that will make Clinton look bad.
People laugh at that million dollar loan that Trump got from his father. People have no idea how difficult it is to take one million dollars and turn that to 10 Billion. It takes a lot of smarts.

Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Ciment] #894983
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Ciment,

True points about the existence of double standards.

However, Trump's son was not mis quoted, nor were his words taken out of context.

Trump is an accomplished man, however his dad bailed him out of financial problems SEVERAL times.
The million dollar loan was just at the beginning.

Call Trump many things, but can't call him a self made man.

Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #894987
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A lot of smarts, like refusing to pay companies he contracts to. I've heard all about it. I suppose you will make money if you contract to companies that will build everything for you on credit, then stiff them.


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Originally Posted By: getthesenets
Ciment,

True points about the existence of double standards.

However, Trump's son was not mis quoted, nor were his words taken out of context.

Trump is an accomplished man, however his dad bailed him out of financial problems SEVERAL times.
The million dollar loan was just at the beginning.

Call Trump many things, but can't call him a self made man.


I agree with you that Trump's son actually said those words, I do not deny that. What I was saying is sometimes you say something and it doesn't come out the way you meant it.
A person that starts with nothing and ends up earning his first million is a big achievement. Compare this with Trump that starts with a million and ends up with 10 billion that is a much more bigger achievement. To put in context of a billionaire's point of view, it is right to say he started with nothing (a million) and created a billion dollar empire. This is what I think Trump's son was trying to say.
With your other point, even if his father helped him. He still managed to surpass his father's wealth a thousand times over. Example, his siblings had the same opportunity, why weren't they able to achieve the same wealth that Donald Trump did.
Furthermore this whole trivial conversation we are having is just a distraction to Hillary's failures which they don't want people to focus on. I honestly believe that Trump entered politics wanting to do something good in his life. He already made his money and is not motivated by greed like the rest of those corrupted politicians.

Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #895005
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I'd have to know what Trump's supporters have seen in him in the past to be convinced that he entered politics to do something good in his life. I'm not sure that Trump has done a genuinely nice thing for anyone, ever, that wasn't for some kind of PR, or that he didn't expect a favor in return for. People like Donald Trump are incapable of doing good things. It's not in their wiring.


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Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
A lot of smarts, like refusing to pay companies he contracts to. I've heard all about it. I suppose you will make money if you contract to companies that will build everything for you on credit, then stiff them.


When your in business and own several companies, there will always be disagreements and disputes. I never heard of a marriage without arguments from time to time. Businesses are the same. What you are doing is just throwing spaghetti on the wall and hope that some might stick on the wall.
In your world a person that breaks a window is just as guilty as someone committing a crime. Your are comparing apples with oranges.

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Every fraudster has a story.


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"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
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Well, Fox news is pretty much giving the debate to Mrs. Clinton. Even Laura Ingrahm says that Mrs. Clinton came prepared. Brit Hume, Megyn Kelly, and even Dana Perino say that Trump did okay for the first 15 minutes or so, but then faded. Brit Hume said that Trump looked bored and annoyed like he did during the Republican primary debates and Mrs. Clinton looked calm and cool. Well, if Fox News says Mrs. Clinton won't it, then I guess she did.

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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #895061
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UPI reports that Trump is ahead of Clinton in electoral college votes:

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2016/09/2.../3941474908310/

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Trump lost no doubt about it he was not as prepared as Clinton

Thing with these debates is they actually have no impact on how people are going to vote this by this stage people know what they are going to vote they won't be changing there mind.

I heard trump was winning in the polls as well will be interesting it looks very close but then again never trust the polls they are wrong a lot of the time .


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I saw the same Trump tonight that I've seen my entire life. I don't know what he could have possibly done better, or what he could have "prepared" for. This was his best. This is the Trump I've always known. I would like to know when anyone has seen him act better than this in public. I've never seen it. Arrogant, getting frustrated when challenged. This is Donald Trump.


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Real Clear Politics, which compiles all polls, has Hillary ahead in electoral map.

(link has breakdown of each state)

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_elections_electoral_college_map.html



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Wow she is really far a head of a non politician isn't she? smile


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But Donald Trump is a politician, and a losing one.


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Originally Posted By: gangstereport
Trump lost no doubt about it he was not as prepared as Clinton

Thing with these debates is they actually have no impact on how people are going to vote this by this stage people know what they are going to vote they won't be changing there mind.

I heard trump was winning in the polls as well will be interesting it looks very close but then again never trust the polls they are wrong a lot of the time .


Trump is an example of what not to do in debates. Blown opportunity after blown opportunity. Hillary started off greeting the moderator and the audience, while Trump jumped into his first answer without greeting anyone. Blamed China for everything. I couldn't listen after that.

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Most of the online polls with the exception of CNN...."Clinton News network" show that Trump won the debate. All she was able to do is attack him on trivial stuff like the birther issue,contractor and income tax. Something that nobody cares about. Trump delivered knock punches on foreign matters, the economy and jobs.
Looks like the polls in Colorado,Virginia and Minnesota(democratic strong hold) of all places are narrowing. It doesn't look good for Hillary.
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All that's been released today is the USC tracking poll that Trump has led in for some time, yet his lead continues to decrease. Was at plus 7, now at plus 2.

Gallup poll released today putting Obama above 50% approval rating.

Bush's approval rating was at 25% in September of '08. Bill Clinton's at 60% in September of 2000. Clinton left office at nearly 70%. America likes its Democratic presidents.


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No chance Trump won the debate- my opinion


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i dont care much for either candidate, but i think its clear to everyone except the staunchest trump supporters that he lost last night. also came off childish interrupting every 10 seconds.

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ciment...... I question trump being worth 10 billion, don't you know he is 650 million in debt with 2 companies, and, he only owns 35% of trump towers, I'm sure his tax records would show this. but, he won't release them, is it because the Russians own him?



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