Don't you know how stupid you sound? Her entire speech was one big lie about why Hillary friggin' Clinton is a good role model for women and why she would make a great president. Any objective observer (not you) can see neither is true.

And all you can say is "Ben Shapiro lol" because you've got nothing to say. The guy makes a living out of putting liberal fags like you in their place.

Of course, this is all assuming you're not just some troll pretending to be the biggest leftist hack ever to pollute this board.



What in THE BLUE HELL is Obama talking about? His entire campaign the first time around was built around him being some kind of savior who was bringing "hope and change." Of course he brought nothing in terms of hope and the vast majority of change he brought was bad. Many of those who were stupid enough to vote for him were disappointed and that's why they later doubled down with crazy Bernie this time around. The Democrats have always been about the government- their idea of it - ruling everyone and providing everything from cradle to grave. The government supplants everything - the individual, families, God. And yet the Democrat approach never solves a damn thing. But it's not supposed to, is it? The idea is to keep 'em down and keep 'em voting for you. Seriously, who does this fraud think he's kidding?

Ivy
just calling you out for inconsistency.
I did NOT know that the FDLS wasn't affiliated with your set of beliefs.
I DID know that you would NOT reply, or comment on the story about MASS welfare fraud involving people from your neck of the woods. I knew you'd avoid that post.

So you bringing up "Jordan wearing welfare recipients" in this thread...which implies urban poor Blacks, is a bit of a bad joke.

You'd have all the more reason to have commented on the FDLS million dollar welfare fraud case seeing that it involved leader of religious group that you don't care for. Guess the face of those welfare recipients don't match the narrative you're more comfortable with.

Also, the political demographics for Hildale,Utah and the county it's in are consistently 2/3 or better registered Rep. and Pres. election votes for past 30 years are consistent with that for the city and county. Seeing as how FDLS runs that town..literally ,it's not a stretch to say that if fugitive and welfare cheat Lyfe Jeffs does vote ...that he was voting (R).

You know your state better than I do, you could have guessed that the town he and that church run was mostly (R). But that's not consistent with the "Jordan wearing welfare"Democrats argument.

I give you a certain amount of credit for being candid and honest, but some of these inconsistencies have to be obvious to you.


I've said before that many govt. programs DO promote dependency, in fact they were designed to promote a societal "need" for them...guaranteeing the existence of the programs.
You can make your points here without the obvious contempt shown towards Blacks.

You guys are playing right into the media hands. Focusing on "Russians hacking the DNC" instead of the content in the hackings. Doesn't matter how they came out the outrage should be in the content. Suckers.

First, I don't know why I'm obligated to comment on the Jeffs situation. Just because I dont comment, don't assume I'm avoiding anything. In hindsight, maybe I should have so I could correct your assumptions in that thread rather than you bringing it up here. And this isn't the first time you've played that card. In other threads you have brought up the Mormon Church as some kind of counterpoint when it's usually been irrelevant. If you got something to say, say it, but at least have your facts right.

Second, the contempt I have is for straight Democratic ticket voters, whatever color they are and what Obama was calling for in his DNC speech. Especially those who whine about Trump but then have the nerve to turn around and vote for someone even worse.

Ivy,

I can count numerous times when you make comments about what"Blacks" SHOULD be doing, or questioning why "Blacks" vote this way or that way or "blindly follow" Obama.

When you make numerous comments patronizing or questioning what "other groups" do, people assume that you have as much "expertise" about your group as you seemingly have about others. If I made multiple posts about what Utahns are doing wrong, when threads or topic involving New Jersey came up, people would be waiting so hear my take...and would notice if I didn't comment.

Your contempt towards Blacks is obvious, and you are entitled to feel however you want...but you are infinitely more knowledgeable about the groups you identify as than "Blacks"...so every once in a while I just ask a question to see if you're as forthright in your opinion about your group as you are of others. When you are not, makes your opinions about others seem hollow.

Ivy,

I can count numerous times when you make comments about what"Blacks" SHOULD be doing, or questioning why "Blacks" vote this way or that way or "blindly follow" Obama.

When you make numerous comments patronizing or questioning what "other groups" do, people assume that you have as much "expertise" about your group as you seemingly have about others. If I made multiple posts about what Utahns are doing wrong, when threads or topic involving New Jersey came up, people would be waiting so hear my take...and would notice if I didn't comment.

Your contempt towards Blacks is obvious, and you are entitled to feel however you want...but you are infinitely more knowledgeable about the groups you identify as than "Blacks"...so every once in a while I just ask a question to see if you're as forthright in your opinion about your group as you are of others. When you are not, makes your opinions about others seem hollow.

"When they go low, we go high" - Michelle Obama

Keep parroting that stupid broad all you want. It only reminds everyone how ridiculous you are.

@Dino,

Whether Ivy is or isn't racist isn't of any concern to me.I wrote that his contempt for Blacks is obvious and it's a pattern I've seen before where people are quite vocal about the shortcomings,faults,pathology of OTHER groups but conspicuously quiet about negative aspects or stories about THEIR own group.

I guess it's like how people who smoke are used to the smell and aren't aware of how they (and their homes) smell to nonsmokers.

Also, not sure how anyone can tell who is or isn't a racist. How would you know whether I am a racist or not? I could be typing this reply wearing a "k.ill whitey" t shirt for all you know. I'm not wearing that t-shirt, btw...(not right now)

@Dino,

Whether Ivy is or isn't racist isn't of any concern to me.I wrote that his contempt for Blacks is obvious and it's a pattern I've seen before where people are quite vocal about the shortcomings,faults,pathology of OTHER groups but conspicuously quiet about negative aspects or stories about THEIR own group.

I guess it's like how people who smoke are used to the smell and aren't aware of how they (and their homes) smell to nonsmokers.

Also, not sure how anyone can tell who is or isn't a racist. How would you know whether I am a racist or not? I could be typing this reply wearing a "k.ill whitey" t shirt for all you know. I'm not wearing that t-shirt, btw...(not today)

The same with Jews (who had it way worse than Blacks)..

First, I have a history with Ivy and have had much dialog with him. Personally, I have contempt for blacks who often get out of line...but I have contempt for whites who get out of line, hispanics who get out of line or any other group of people who get out of line. Call me a racist, but our penal institutions are dominated by African Americans, right? Is there racism in this country? Sure there is. But instead of bitching and moaning about it, go out and prove people wrong. I have plenty of black professional friends who are humiliated by how their people act and how they conduct their lives which is similar to how I feel when a white guy pulls a Columbine or Virginia Tech type incident. There are good and bad in all races.

Here's one for you: My family came here from Italy without anything. Did they have their hands out for government benefits? NO. When they were thrown out of churches, they built their own. When they were thrown out of Steel Mills for being Italian, they opened their own businesses. The same with Jews (who had it way worse than Blacks)...yet blacks are the biggest drain on our government welfare system? Why is that? You got a woman with 3 baby daddy collecting welfare and habitually getting pregnant? When is enough enough? Spending their welfare checks on booze and cigarettes (I'm glad my state finally cut that shit out). Blacks feel entitled because they were slaves, how come Italians and Jews don't hold onto the past discrimination? It's called making a change for the better, something "most" blacks aren't even considering. Let Uncle Sam continue paying for my babies out of wedlock while I sit on my fat ass and collect a check. I'm sure you know a few sistas who do this on a monthly basis.

The same with Jews (who had it way worse than Blacks)...yet blacks are the biggest drain on our government welfare system? Why is that? You got a woman with 3 baby daddy collecting welfare and habitually getting pregnant? When is enough enough? Spending their welfare checks on booze and cigarettes (I'm glad my state finally cut that shit out). Blacks feel entitled because they were slaves, how come Italians and Jews don't hold onto the past discrimination? It's called making a change for the better, something "most" blacks aren't even considering. Let Uncle Sam continue paying for my babies out of wedlock while I sit on my fat ass and collect a check. I'm sure you know a few sistas who do this on a monthly basis.

They have same interest in it as any other citizen of America.

Or are you saying minorities (btw, which American minorities are you speaking of: Latinos, Blacks, Jews, Asians, etc?) think differently than the majority? I'm unclear here.

Any minority. Including an Irish person that overstays their visa, gets money under the table, doesn't pay taxes and becomes an unnecessary burden on the state - and there are a lot of them.

Irish, Italian, English, German, Somalian, Mexican. Doesn't matter to me.

Ivy,

in the thread that YOU started about "mass incarceration being a myth"....I mentioned that despite what your point was, that some states were rethinking their mand. min. laws and laws regarding drug possession offenses. I noted that YOUR state had scaled back and changed the penalties for drug offenses.

Was thinking that you could have some insight on why they decided to do this. Seems as though your home state passing those laws counters your points . . The move to strike or lower mand. minimum drug sentences is being taken up from state to state. That is passed in Utah must puzzle you. I hardly think you could blame "liberals" for that, which is why I think you didn't weigh in or comment.

lol i've read it all on here man i swear

You're not going to ignore all the white people on 'welfare' in this country, are you?

In the US more whites receive welfare than blacks. While a higher percentage of the overall black population gets welfare, there are still many more whites 'taking' than blacks.

Is it fair to say that the only reason the Clinton's are still together is because Hillary has serious dirt on Bill and she is using Bill to further her own political career?

That's got to be a loveless marriage like.

The only reason anyone pays her any attention is because of her pervert husband's cult of personality.

What did she achieve while in the senate? Nothing!

Is it fair to say that the only reason the Clinton's are still together is because Hillary has serious dirt on Bill and she is using Bill to further her own political career?

That's got to be a loveless marriage like.

The only reason anyone pays her any attention is because of her pervert husband's cult of personality.

What did she achieve while in the senate? Nothing!

First, I have a history with Ivy and have had much dialog with him. Personally, I have contempt for blacks who often get out of line...but I have contempt for whites who get out of line, hispanics who get out of line or any other group of people who get out of line. Call me a racist, but our penal institutions are dominated by African Americans, right? Is there racism in this country? Sure there is. But instead of bitching and moaning about it, go out and prove people wrong. I have plenty of black professional friends who are humiliated by how their people act and how they conduct their lives which is similar to how I feel when a white guy pulls a Columbine or Virginia Tech type incident. There are good and bad in all races.

Here's one for you: My family came here from Italy without anything. Did they have their hands out for government benefits? NO. When they were thrown out of churches, they built their own. When they were thrown out of Steel Mills for being Italian, they opened their own businesses. The same with Jews (who had it way worse than Blacks)...yet blacks are the biggest drain on our government welfare system? Why is that? You got a woman with 3 baby daddy collecting welfare and habitually getting pregnant? When is enough enough? Spending their welfare checks on booze and cigarettes (I'm glad my state finally cut that shit out). Blacks feel entitled because they were slaves, how come Italians and Jews don't hold onto the past discrimination? It's called making a change for the better, something "most" blacks aren't even considering. Let Uncle Sam continue paying for my babies out of wedlock while I sit on my fat ass and collect a check. I'm sure you know a few sistas who do this on a monthly basis.

You are actually going to continuously post that, why not just ignore it


"This will be on the 10 dollar bill in 50 years, after Michelle has served her two terms as president."

Don't drink the bong water

It's those kind of posts that make me think OakAsFan is just a troll who doesn't really believe what he's saying. Nobody is that delusional.

You are actually going to continuously post that, why not just ignore it


"This will be on the 10 dollar bill in 50 years, after Michelle has served her two terms as president."

Don't drink the bong water