If he would move up the ranks in the Bonannos, the Creas would have power and influence in 2 families instead of 1. But it's hypothetical ofcourse..

Thanks Sonny, makes more sense indeed..

When I read this also to me look non sense now I controlled Crea jr stay with the Lucchese and maybe stay in his dad crew. If no, who's the capo where crea jr is under ?

No as has already been said, he aint seeing light of day again either way, and it benefits guys on street to have him in the top spot

What kind of a man wants his son to be involved in this?

A scumbag

Is there a list of the sons of Mobsters who have followed in their fathers footsteps? Furio do you have one?

Yes Bean I made a threat on the sons,brothers,nephews ecc that follow ed a parent in the life. Corallo in the jaguar tape said to sal avellino:"if we dont want this [the mafia] for our sons mean that we feel shame of it"

http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=872782&page=1

Yeah, if I'm not mistaken, Corallo said that it's the same thing as a doctor wanting his son to be a doctor. Lol.

In the early 80s when Corallo said so, when cosa nostra was the top dog in the east coast was different. Now be made is a sure sentence that be a simple criminal.

I just can't believe anyone would take Amuso suggestions or advice on anything. How many guys on the street could even really still know him? He's been gone for what 20 years? that's like 2 lifetimes on the street.

Wonder boy is the boss

Some people are still convinced Amuso was a puppet boss for Casso too, which subsequent events proved to be incorrect, like when guys on the street got behind Vic and ostracized Gas from the family.



http://www.leagle.com/decision/199823710FSupp2d227_1213/U.S.%20v.%20AMUSO

Some of the guys still around that had contact with amuso would be lastorino and 2 jersey guys.

Wasnt that much reporting on amuso trial. Maybe in the ny times archives. Wish we could post it all on this thread. How bout the guy was convicted of every single counts. All 54. Your lawyers stink. Also think crea was a amuso guy and was probaly one of the first guys amuso inducted into the family. 86 creas in his mid 30tys almost 40.

@pmac

My thats a pretty significant piece of info there.... So Crea was an Amuso initiate/protege?

That goes a long way to explaining Amusos continued clout. The guy also came from the Gallo crew, that's gotta count for a LOT in NY. That crew was very close to Chin, also a shrewd move to put his own young guy in the Bronx to keep that faction close. I think Amuso might be one of the most misunderstood mobsters.

The assumption that ALL his power comes from Brooklyn crews, might be a bad miscalculation...

Just was rereading a chapter in darcos book. In dec 1990 amuso n casso are on the run and at i think it was pat testas parents house vic taps al as acting boss he makes bowatt underboss he says thats cassos guy. Al says no one likes him and vic makes crea the acting consig. I mean vic must have liked him to jump him from soldier to consig. And if creas still acting boss today hes probaly happy to let amuso still have the official tittle cause the only people that care about that are the feds same with whoever leads the gambinos letting petter gotti hold that tittle. But i think there is a new official boss of the gambinos just to much history to let it got to a guy sitting in jail forever.

And with that old saying your familys only as strong as the boss with the genovese having barney b as theres i would just guess 200 guys kn the other family wouldnt want or respect peter gotti sitting in a cell getting the respect that other bosses got.

IvyLeague has posted over 8,000 times to this board and gets paid $0 for each post. Yet, he always feels the need to belittle other people's posts. Like he's the Ruler of The Universe. If you don't like the post, try not commenting. Or do you have nothing else to do in while you live in your moms basement?

Ivy can't post here anymore so no use bashing him since he can't reapond

for the damage gas and vic did to that family, killing good men ,ruining families ,women children he should have stepped down a long time ago. they killed buddy L. and others for nothing,

Good men?

You live by the sword, you die by the sword.

My man, shut up.


And Amuso still held power as seen in the Operation Heat transcripts, sure he inducted Scarfo Jr at the behest of the old man, but wired recordings show that at least during a short period of time, Matthew Madaonna & Joseph DiNapoli also shared faith in Scarfo Jr. Transcripts also show that it really was the talk of "a war with Philadelphia" which really was a major cause for him being demoted after Ralph Perna got out. The common belief though is those were rumours started by Jr's enemies within the Jersey Lucchese crew.