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Re: Why is Obama so Polarizing? [Re: NickyScarfo] #883319
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Talking of Obama, it was disgusting how he came over to Britain recently and basically threatened us against leaving the EU, saying we will be at the back of the trade line. I'm sure most Americans (especially conservatives)fully understand our want to have sovereignty and Independence as you yourselves enjoy. Well Obama your cynical attempts failed and just strengthened our resolve! Vote Leave!

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I think I can see why he said that. For at least the last 2 yrs we are propping up the euro with US dollars. If the euro crashes so does the US dollar and our economy.


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Ivy, what is your justification for thinking that women can't be effective politicians?

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Originally Posted By: mightyhealthy
Ivy, what is your justification for thinking that women can't be effective politicians?


It's not that they can't, I don't believe they should. Particularly the presidency. Like women in the military, it's a sign of a declining society. I believe men and women are inherently equal but they have different roles.


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I have a wife for almost 50 yrs now. I have two grown daughters and two grown sons.

I believe at least in my case women are better people then men.

Of course a women can be president if she is willing to do what has to be done.

I just don't believe Hillary is that kind of women. I think if Hillary would have sent the help those guys in Bengazi needed and saved them. Even if Obama said no then she would have made a good president. That dead ambassador was a friend of her's. She did not help them except made excuses for not helping them.


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Is it just me or does Hillary Clinton not look and sound like a completely deranged, swivle eyed nutcase? A total meglomaniac who assumes people havent got a brain and seems to say anything at all that means she gets her way.

Check this disgusting achievement of total ignorance, dishonesty and sheer contempt for people...

http://youtu.be/6QFRTZ4JEWA

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If you vote for her you have no brain. She wants to grow the economy exactly like Obama did smile


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To go to the original question: I think that he's polarizing because he wants to be. I think that's mixed up with his relationship with his father somehow, that he's bringing the western world to heel while dad couldn't do that.


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Has anyone gone to see "Hillary's America" by Dnesh D'Souza?
It is a great insight into the Democratic Party, Plantation Politics, and how they keep the Blacks as votes and really don't want them to break out and get independent. Very insightful movie.

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Originally Posted By: flattax
Has anyone gone to see "Hillary's America" by Dnesh D'Souza?
It is a great insight into the Democratic Party, Plantation Politics, and how they keep the Blacks as votes and really don't want them to break out and get independent. Very insightful movie.


I imagine it us but, of course, Hillary supporters and Democrats/liberals in general will simply attack D'Souza rather than address the movie itself.

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I watched a video on Youtube of Dinesh D'Souza giving a lecture and then a Q&A session, smart guy don't know if I will see the film but I enjoyed the video I watched

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D'Souza is actually a well accomplished guy. His track record has been that he's consistently racist towards Blacks, so I don't know how objective he could be about the relationship between Blacks and one political party or the other.

The most recent incident from him involves him tweeting about Obama "You can take the boy out of the ghetto ...." or some other nonsense.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/02/18/dinesh-dsouza-on-obama-you-can-take-the-boy-out/202551


But this guy has been on this type of kick for years.
Smart guy.....good writer....openly biased.

D'souza, Limbaugh, Coulter make these types of comments publicly to further polarize people about Obama. It's not enough to criticize him for policy or decisions.....gotta throw in "boy" "ghetto" and other nonsense about the POTUS.
Guess it appeals to people who are already thinking like that.


The good news is that because of Trump's personality, there is no media attention given to these commentators saying outrageous stuff for effect.

Also D'souza was yet another of those public moralists who got caught cheating on his wife.Media went after him for not living what he was "preaching" and his profile fell.

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Originally Posted By: flattax
Has anyone gone to see "Hillary's America" by Dnesh D'Souza?
It is a great insight into the Democratic Party, Plantation Politics, and how they keep the Blacks as votes and really don't want them to break out and get independent. Very insightful movie.


"plantation politics".

lol. wtf is that?


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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: flattax
Has anyone gone to see "Hillary's America" by Dnesh D'Souza?
It is a great insight into the Democratic Party, Plantation Politics, and how they keep the Blacks as votes and really don't want them to break out and get independent. Very insightful movie.


I imagine it us but, of course, Hillary supporters and Democrats/liberals in general will simply attack D'Souza rather than address the movie itself.


Probably because D'Souza is a convicted felon who's known for making documentary films that bash Democrat presidential candidates in election years. There is a credibility issue here.


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Originally Posted By: getthesenets
D'Souza is actually a well accomplished guy. His track record has been that he's consistently racist towards Blacks, so I don't know how objective he could be about the relationship between Blacks and one political party or the other.

The most recent incident from him involves him tweeting about Obama "You can take the boy out of the ghetto ...." or some other nonsense.

Also D'souza was yet another of those public moralists who got caught cheating on his wife.Media went after him for not living what he was "preaching" and his profile fell.


Except that Obama attended a private school and both of his parents had PhD's. Dinesh D'Souza is perfectly capable of making good points, but then he makes ignorant biased statements like this that damage his credibility.

What made his spousal cheating scandal even worse was that he was a president of a Christian college at the time. After his indiscretion was discovered he quickly resigned. To me an even more egregious example was when Newt Gingrich allegedly (he and his daughter disputes this version) told his told his first wife that he was divorcing her while she was in the hospital recovering from cancer. If true, that's pretty cold.

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F1,

You're right. I've read critiques of Dem.s and the POTUS and other articles by D'souza that are surgically precise and that can't be argued. In fact, because of the Portuguese last name, I often forget that it's him writing the article.

I respect the fact that he's an open bigot. Just puzzles me when non-wasps buy into and repeat the racist code words and stereotypes from the country's past. I often wonder whether they are aware that the people they are pandering to hold different but equally rigid stereotypes about their groups.

In fact, because of the H-1 B visa issue, I expect that Desi people will be the next group to be targeted by this same base level rhetoric and pandering. I'm certain that some people see the brown faces and features and group them with Arabs anyway.(and whatever stereotypes they hold about Arabs)



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I have to admit that much of the time I tune into the Kelly File just so I can look at Megan Kelly. However, last week I watched her interview of D'Souza (Hillary's America) during which he cited several historically well-known anti-slavery figures (such as Lincoln and Frederick Douglas) as being Republicans and pro-slavery or pro-segregation figures as Democrats. True enough. But what he failed to cite was the ideological turn that the Republican Party took (starting particularly in the 60s) as the Congress (and society generally) embraced desegregation. He completely ignored the Solid South, Dixiecrats, and George Wallace's American Independent Party.


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Yes. "The Party of Lincoln" is a slogan that Black conservative commentators use all the time. They don't place things in context and neither is D'souza. It's deliberate, done to confuse people who are not inclined to look up the story.

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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
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Ivy, what is your justification for thinking that women can't be effective politicians?


It's not that they can't, I don't believe they should. Particularly the presidency. Like women in the military, it's a sign of a declining society. I believe men and women are inherently equal but they have different roles.


LOL...Do you mean Women should wear Aprons and men should go to work? Personally, I believe women were put on this earth to have babies and give great head. Visit the East Coast where most households are a two working family. I couldn't imagine my wife having a voice. But I agree, women have no place on the Fire Department either IMO.

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Originally Posted By: getthesenets
F1,

You're right. I've read critiques of Dem.s and the POTUS and other articles by D'souza that are surgically precise and that can't be argued. In fact, because of the Portuguese last name, I often forget that it's him writing the article.

I respect the fact that he's an open bigot. Just puzzles me when non-wasps buy into and repeat the racist code words and stereotypes from the country's past. I often wonder whether they are aware that the people they are pandering to hold different but equally rigid stereotypes about their groups.

In fact, because of the H-1 B visa issue, I expect that Desi people will be the next group to be targeted by this same base level rhetoric and pandering. I'm certain that some people see the brown faces and features and group them with Arabs anyway.(and whatever stereotypes they hold about Arabs)




What are the racist code words stereotypes?

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mitch McConnell and all his right wing nuts, from the start were determined to bring Obama down, wanting to make him a one term president, those neo-cons were against him the moment he took office, and cruz hated him also.

they hated the guy for one reason, and one reason only,

HE WAS BLACK! no other reason,



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Originally Posted By: Binnie_Coll
mitch McConnell and all his right wing nuts, from the start were determined to bring Obama down, wanting to make him a one term president, those neo-cons were against him the moment he took office, and cruz hated him also.

they hated the guy for one reason, and one reason only,

HE WAS BLACK! no other reason,


Not even sure if this is a joke ?

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mitch McConnell and all his right wing nuts, from the start were determined to bring Obama down, wanting to make him a one term president, those neo-cons were against him the moment he took office, and cruz hated him also.

they hated the guy for one reason, and one reason only,

HE WAS BLACK! no other reason,


Not even sure if this is a joke ?


No a lot of people believe that SoCal. That's the liberal/Dem way. If you disagree with or criticize Obama, that paint brush immediately comes out and they paint you a racist. You can't win so no need to reply to it. Just make sure you vote in November.

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Originally Posted By: Binnie_Coll
mitch McConnell and all his right wing nuts, from the start were determined to bring Obama down, wanting to make him a one term president, those neo-cons were against him the moment he took office, and cruz hated him also.

they hated the guy for one reason, and one reason only,

HE WAS BLACK! no other reason,


Not even sure if this is a joke ?


No a lot of people believe that SoCal. That's the liberal/Dem way. If you disagree with or criticize Obama, that paint brush immediately comes out and they paint you a racist. You can't win so no need to reply to it. Just make sure you vote in November.



Yea I know they act this way but he came off as TOO much of a caricature that it threw me off.

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Originally Posted By: Binnie_Coll
mitch McConnell and all his right wing nuts, from the start were determined to bring Obama down, wanting to make him a one term president, those neo-cons were against him the moment he took office, and cruz hated him also.

they hated the guy for one reason, and one reason only,

HE WAS BLACK! no other reason,


Not even sure if this is a joke ?


No a lot of people believe that SoCal. That's the liberal/Dem way. If you disagree with or criticize Obama, that paint brush immediately comes out and they paint you a racist. You can't win so no need to reply to it. Just make sure you vote in November.


Yup. It's the lazy/dishonest liberal way. They know the "it's cause he's black" accusation is bullshit but when has that ever stopped them?


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Originally Posted By: Binnie_Coll
mitch McConnell and all his right wing nuts, from the start were determined to bring Obama down, wanting to make him a one term president, those neo-cons were against him the moment he took office, and cruz hated him also.

they hated the guy for one reason, and one reason only,

HE WAS BLACK! no other reason,


Not even sure if this is a joke ?


Half black.


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Originally Posted By: SoCalGangs

What are the racist code words stereotypes?


In the case I mentioned above, D'souza uses the words "boy" and "ghetto" to describe the President of the United States.

Fringe politician Rick Tyler has/had billboard up in 2016 saying "Make America White Again"

Perhaps 100 or more American elected officials, cops, and govt.workers have been exposed using racial slurs, stereotypes, etc on OFFICIAL email accounts about POTUS since he was first elected.

Don't worry if you've not noticed them , SoCal.
In the weeks to come, you'll see and hear some of these code words/stereotypes about Latinos in ads. (for sure)


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Originally Posted By: getthesenets
Originally Posted By: SoCalGangs

What are the racist code words stereotypes?


In the case I mentioned above, D'souza uses the words "boy" and "ghetto" to describe the President of the United States.

Fringe politician Rick Tyler has/had billboard up in 2016 saying "Make America White Again"

Perhaps 100 or more American elected officials, cops, and govt.workers have been exposed using racial slurs, stereotypes, etc on OFFICIAL email accounts about POTUS since he was first elected.

Don't worry if you've not noticed them , SoCal.
In the weeks to come, you'll see and hear some of these code words/stereotypes about Latinos in ads. (for sure)



I was genuinely curious in the case of D'souza. I've never followed his work. Just a few days ago I came across a debate he had with that buffoon Cenk Uyger, and thought he came off as a legit debater. Didn't watch the whole thing though.

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