I think it's hilarious that the big reveal in this is that a guy bought property for $200k, renovated it, and sold for a profit with '649,000' being flashed across the screen! That's what it's come to? A guy not breaking any laws by investing in real estate is news now!

The whole story is someone thinking out loud no real story to tell.

Where do you think the 200k came from?

His loaders job at Lowes?

After watching the video..Georgie Boy doesnt appear to be on the outs at all, but I guess you never know

I got a big kick out of how bloated Ed Jacobs looked. He was praising these guys and making them out to be pillars of the communuty. I think Georgie was squeezing his nuts under the desk everytime he was asked a question by Mayo Face. lol

I don't get it , they are talking like this is the first time a mob guy is involved in Real estate or construction .

I know many many people that have successful restaurants bars & nightclubs and not one of them can live the life that Skinny is living and half the time they are tied to there Business ten to fourteen hrs a day ..

And don't think Georgie is going to sit for anyone. He is going to stir the pot till he has the most ...

I agree they do dress real casual and shit but I have seen Allie boy wearing baseball hats before. Phillys a fuckong weird place.

But Georgie isn't stirring any pots as far as we know. Again, people are acting as if, this is just Shratweiser and his two cents. He was aided in production of this piece by active Philadelphia law enforcement. I don't think he just woke up, and said I'm going to do a news piece based solely on my opinion and with no input from actual law enforcement, past and present. It's said multiple times throughout the video that a lot of the information came from current LE who are watching these guys attempting to catch them up on something which leads to an indictment.


Georgie Boy wouldn't exactly be sitting either, being the go-to for Uncle Joe places Borgesi in a prominent position. And as the video has shown, he's met with various "top brass" of the Philly LCN, most the top guys that we know of right now, are shown right in front of his clubhouse, multiple times throughout the video. If he was stirring the pot and was on the outs, and screwing guys over for the benefit of himself and having the most out of everyone, why would these guys be meeting with him so often, why would they be present at a social club which he owns? It just doesn't make any sense.


Again, this is solely my opinion, and speculation, but I don't think Dave S is all that off with this piece. And again, I'm of the opinion that Georgie Boy is the go-to guy for his uncle, which puts him among the top rungs of the family, possibly without even having an official admin position.

I just Googled Dave Fritchey and he was in charge of the Philadelphia Strike Force of the government. He has been around prosecuting as far back as the Bruno days. If they have 4 factions why didn't Mayo Face ask him for his opinion? Fritchey has been around for all the wars in Philadelhia. Listen to the video again. It's Mayo face saying it. That would be big news because of a possible run by one of the factions for power and control that could lead to violence. But there was no mention of that by Fritchey or Anastasia. Instead it's was all about making money flipping real estate. I got out of the video that Philadelphia is growing in numbers and is making money.

Funny to see Merlino walk presidential.

Hey, that's the fun of it all, we can all have our own opinions formed out of this piece and debate. But just to be clear, I'm not saying Joey wanted Ligambi to induct his guys into his crew. But while Joey was in prison, Ligambi was the acting boss, so he'd be the one conducting all of the making ceremonies anyway. And he wouldn't necessarily be inducting those select guys Merlino wanted into his crew. He could've stated during the ceremony "such and such, you're under Mazzone until Joey comes home, your captain is Stevie, but he's not your official crew boss, he's just holding the seat for Joey" and those guys would've understood that they're under Merlino. But I think the fact that Ligambi didn't want to make the guys, proves that they just might be heading separate crews. Because Ligambi's reason for not inducting the three Merlino sponsored from the can, was that he didn't know the guys, that was the exact words that came from Licata. If they were in the same crew, why would Ligambi NOT know them or feel comfortable with them? And if they're in the same crew with Ligambi ultimately being a subordinate of Joey Merlino, wouldn't Merlino have had the ability to override Ligambi's feelings and pushed him to make his guys anyway? This also goes back to the discussion currently going on on this forum and others about the street power of an incarcerated Cosa Nostra boss. But in Joey's case, we know he was close to coming home then, his proxies (Mazzone & Johnny Chang, and maybe Ligambi)were strong on the street, so he pretty much would've had the authority to have whomever he wanted to receive a button during that select ceremony, yet for some reason it didn't go like that.

Again, this is all just my opinion and speculation. But right now, I'm actually leaning towards Shratweiser's piece being more of an accurate view into the Philly Mob than what most of us are claiming. Some insiders shared info long ago that was also stated in this piece, so they weren't all that far off. At the same time, none of them mentioned Ligambi still being recognized as the official street boss, Borgesi being a player, or Ligambi heading one of the four crews or "factions". So there was also a lot of information they misinterpreted or just didn't know. Another interesting thing, Johnny Chang. More than a couple of these same insiders have shared info that a lot of guys are looking at Chang sideways for his choice of friends and his whose he been hanging out with, some of those guys being known informants. I find the lack of any mention of him during this piece, interesting, when I think back on that claim made by some of the "in-the-know" posters.

Anastasia has written articles in the recent past co-signing the four factions theory. Because he wasn't video taped stating it during this piece, doesn't mean much. Dave Fritchey is also the one who said that currently, they've grown back to the strength of the Scarfo era. So even if Fritchey did co-sign the four factions theory, I don't see too many people willing to believe him on that either.

Man, Grande seems to be in a good mood these days.

Guess he is happy after getting stressed and grey now that he is fairly certain Nicodemo wont rat him out lol

apparently geogre and steve mazzone are close they are thinking of opening a bar together. Not everyone dislikes geogre.

Its marty angelni who is the main guy who is beefing with geogre and from what i hear joey merlino is not on good terms with geogre as joey is backing marty

Johnny chang also dislikes geogre

Sorry,not 2 go off topic ,but,I met george when i (we) were kids,very briefly when i was selling track suits on the corner of broad & Mckean from a sidewalk rack, around '85 & I still remember him w/ his baseball cap, still 2 this day, he wears a cap, (maybe not so much anymore),what is it w/him & the f-ing caps??..does he have an insecurity?..it is so un-mob looking,..maybe 2 enhance his otherwise ghoulish (so pale) looks..anyway,he stopped tory (scafidi)from stomping on my shit after he (tory)threw my rack into the street after I would not give him a refund explaining our exchanges only policy..needless 2 say.. he got his money back(I had no idea who he was )..he actually said that too,(do u know who i am)..& also figured out that i was in fact a naive kid from n.e. philly who did not know what the fuck i was getting into..all because his sister tried 2 buy him a nice velour running suit (via wrong size)......SORRY,this was supposed 2 b about georgie boy,I'll shut up now.

Because there's zero evidence only speculation that this is the case.

Everyone speculated that when Joey Pung came home in 2010 he wouldnt play ball with Merlino, everyone speculated that when Narducci came home in 2012 He wouldn't play ball, everyone speculated that when Chickie came home he wouldn't play ball... And NOTHING has happened. NOTHING. Except bullshit speculation.

Jeezus, your hero Scott Bernstein (the guy who's home city he's called has up to 60 wise guys in the last decade) has even been throwing round the Borgesi's on the outs... War imminent drama pieces.

And here we see ol Georgy boy walking hand in hand down Passyunk ave with all his girlfriends. What a laugh.

Lots of speculation. Zero actual evidence.

They don't have a bunch of dinosaurs like comparable n.e. family. The oldest guy is Chang then ligambi or scoops everyone else probably under 60. I bet there a few old guys who are made that fly under the radar. Wonder who runs the stolen shit. That must still be there.

Funny how ever since I started watching mob talk Anasasia was always saying the mob is done and played out etc now he's saying were seeing mob numbers similar to during Scarfo era lol

What I want to know is who is the douche wearing the Cowboys jacket?

My hero Scott Burnstein? lol Far from it...He is about as much my hero as you are Ivys lackey.

And actually if you saw my post a few more after that, AFTER I watched the video...I then stated...Borghesi doesnt actually look to be on the outs at all...but that doesnt mean the faction theory is null and void...just divided differently.

It was reported that borgesi walked out on a sitdown with merlino and mazzone making people think philly is on the brink of war and now we see mazzone and borgesi walking down the street laughing...this makes me question everything, is merlino and borgesi really beefing or is it bullshit, is merlino and narducci really beefing or is that bullshit too. We have to admit that everything we thought we knew about philly is wrong and i bet thats confusing the hell out of the fbi

It amazes me that a couple clips from a two month mob investigation, replayed over and over, can lead people to conclusions so quickly...

It is possible walk out on a sit down and also walk down the street with someone.

You do gotta admire these guys a little bit. Opening up social clubs in South Philly... Trying to relive their glory days.

I don't know much about Philly but is it possible that these "factions" everyone keeps talking about are crews?

The crew in philly kind of reminds me of the jersey lucchese crew in the late 80's.
A lot of younger guys who were friends since they were kids and a lot of them are related. Very similar dynamic in that regard.

I know what you mean, but the Pungitore's have always been into real estate going back to the 80's

Made me laugh

geogre is beefing with marty and joey that is true scott said that

i do know geogre and steve are close they are apparently planning on opening a bar together not everyone dislikes geogre


please stop the scott hate lets not turn this into one of the same arguments people dont like him fine i respect that but dont bring it up every thread thats your opinions i dont even know why scott is being brought into this. I dont understand the arguaring on this site all petty things i have been guilty myself on one occasion awhile back i regret but i am just going to leave these sort of arguments

Scott was brought up because it was he who has been trumpeting the 'factions' 'news' in addition to Borgesi's being on the outs.

Yeah, if he wants to report and be considered a credible site, then we have to be willing to examine his reports with some hindsight available.

That said, Mayo face's (lol) report doesn't exactly say much. And you can still be on the outs and talking to people.

It is all speculation right now, from every side. We probably won't know until an indictment or a rat.