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Re: does pete rose belong in the hall of fame. [Re: Binnie_Coll] #1026382
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Guys can move the line betting on their own team, use that to their advantage. Rose bets, say, 10k on his team like a week straight, then one day bets 5k. People in the know will think something is wrong with his team. Someone's injured, etc. It will get back to Vegas and move the line. Just one example of how easy it would be for a famous bettor to do this when placing bets on something they control the outcome of. The rule's there for a reason. No gambling on baseball by anyone involved with the league. Period.


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Re: does pete rose belong in the hall of fame. [Re: Binnie_Coll] #1028100
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Current Hall of Fame ballot tally, based on about 40% of the expected vote:

Ortiz 84%
Bonds 78%
Clemens 77%
Rolen 69%
Schilling 59%
Helton 56%

Everyone else is under 50%. As always, numbers drop suddenly late in the voting, so right now Ortiz is the only likely inductee.

https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=F2E5D8FC5199DFAF!39939&ithint=file,xlsx&authkey=!AK9u16pmWGGlQsI


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Re: does pete rose belong in the hall of fame. [Re: mustachepete] #1033328
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Originally Posted by mustachepete
Current Hall of Fame ballot tally, based on about 40% of the expected vote:

Ortiz 84%
Bonds 78%
Clemens 77%
Rolen 69%
Schilling 59%
Helton 56%

Everyone else is under 50%. As always, numbers drop suddenly late in the voting, so right now Ortiz is the only likely inductee.

https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=F2E5D8FC5199DFAF!39939&ithint=file,xlsx&authkey=!AK9u16pmWGGlQsI


The first 3 names on the ballot were stored users, yet Pete Rose can't get on the ballot.

Re: does pete rose belong in the hall of fame. [Re: jace] #1033362
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Originally Posted by jace
Originally Posted by mustachepete
Current Hall of Fame ballot tally, based on about 40% of the expected vote:

Ortiz 84%
Bonds 78%
Clemens 77%
Rolen 69%
Schilling 59%
Helton 56%

Everyone else is under 50%. As always, numbers drop suddenly late in the voting, so right now Ortiz is the only likely inductee.

https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=F2E5D8FC5199DFAF!39939&ithint=file,xlsx&authkey=!AK9u16pmWGGlQsI


The first 3 names on the ballot were stored users, yet Pete Rose can't get on the ballot.


Agreed. Was really hoping when Manfried took over he'd correct it but he's just as spineless as Selig. Look at his handling of the Houston Astros cheating scandal.

Re: does pete rose belong in the hall of fame. [Re: Binnie_Coll] #1045222
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The Hall's "Contemporary Era Committee" unanimously selected Fred McGriff for induction today. The voting (12 needed to elect):

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Results of the Contemporary Baseball Era Players Ballot (12 votes needed for election): Fred McGriff (16 votes, 100.0%); Don Mattingly (8 votes, 50%); Curt Schilling (7 votes, 43.8%); Dale Murphy (6 votes, 37.5%); Albert Belle, Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens and Rafael Palmeiro each received less than four votes.


I'm pretty surprised by this, not by McGriff's selection but I really expected the Hall to start the PED guys on the road to induction.


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Re: does pete rose belong in the hall of fame. [Re: Binnie_Coll] #1048708
01/18/23 09:27 AM
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Ballots publicly revealed so far have Scott Rolen and Todd Helton both listed on just under 80% of this year's ballots. Announcement is on Tuesday - gonna be a squeaker.


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