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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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I was poking around on the Net for information about Dean Wiwchar, the suspect charged in the murder of Portuguese-Canadian criminal John Raposo back in 2012 at the Sicilian Sidewalk Cafe in Toronto--see my latest post from yesterday at http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=904345#Post904345.I came across an article/blog published exactly one year ago. The link is https://panamericancrime.wordpress.com/2016/01/12/the-mafia-and-toronto-an-update/I don't agree with a number of statements made by the writer but I did want to share the excerpt below (all of you should read most or all of the blog to get some idea of where he's coming from). In fact, the issue may already have degenerated into armed conflict. Verduci’s murder, now believed to be related to him being discovered by Italian police to be the official messenger between the Camera di Controllo in Toronto and the Crimini Provincia in Calabria, was just the first that can be attributed to the mounting tension. On June 24, 2015 a gunman named Jason Hay, a man with a documented violent criminal past, walked into the Moka Espresso Bar in Woodbridge and opened fire on four people, two of whom were killed. Police believe that Hay, in a move that is a hallmark of Toronto’s ‘Ndrine, was hired by opposing Toronto ‘Ndrine. The actual target of the Moka shooting has not yet been identified by police but police assume it is related to a Calabrian power struggle in Toronto. As was the case with Hay, it is believed that a Toronto ‘Ndrine may also have been responsible for the murder of John Riposo on College Street in Toronto in June, 2012, and that his murderer was Dean Wiwchar. Police sources believe that Wiwchar’s identity as the killer was subsequently leaked by Toronto ‘Ndrangheta members to law enforcement as he was known to attack his employers in order to avoid any future legal repercussions if they were to eventually become cooperating witnesses. These killings point to tensions between the Toronto ‘Ndrine and a capacity for violence in order to resolve the underlying issues.I think that we will have to wait to see whether the respective lawyers for Dean Wiwchar and Jason Hay even decide to go to trial before entertaining the possibility that either suspect will spill the beans about who hired them.
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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Anti did they ever solve the murder of the man whose last name was patriarca in toronto think it happen last year. Was just wondering cause they said he was related to the guys in rhode island? Sounded like a hit. Good Question! The murder was never connected to the Montreal war, but Patriarca was picked up frequently on Rizzuto wiretaps. pmac: No, the murder of Alfredo Patriarca in January 2016 remains unsolved. (The VICE Canada reporter was way off the mark in connecting the murder victim with the Patriarca Family. There is no such relation.) Hollander: Patriarca's murder could be connected to the June 2012 killing of Raposo, and, in contrast to the theory of the writer whose blog I quoted from just a bit farther above, both murders could be related to tensions between Montreal and the Siderno Group before and after Vito Rizzuto died in December 2013. As many posters who have read the articles about Patriarca's murder know, he was hit by a stray bullet when Raposo was killed, but Patriarca wasn't identified in newspaper articles at the time of Raposo's murder. Below is a good summary taken from http://nathanson.osgoode.yorku.ca/databa...to-march-2016/.On January 20, Alfredo (Freddy) Patriarca was found shot to death in the garage of an Etobicoke home. Police have not arrested anyone in the shooting. However, a Toronto police spokesperson did tell the media that the murder had all the signs of a professional hit in that the killer took just eight seconds inside the garage to shoot Patriarca dead.
The 42-year-old Patriarca has long been suspected of having ties to Italian-Canadian mafia families. Citing an unnamed police source, the Toronto Star wrote that he was frequently overheard on police wiretaps that were part of Project Colisée, a major investigation into Montreal’s Rizzuto crime family of Montreal during the mid-2000s. During the investigations, police were conducting surveillance on one relative of Rizzuto and two twin brothers who were associated with the Rizzuto family. “The deceased had a close relationship with the twins and Rizzuto loyalists,” the police source said. “He was close to both brothers.”
Patriarca was previously wounded in a high-profile homicide allegedly connected to Italian-Canadian organized crime. As CBC News describes, “he was one of two men shot in the summer of 2012 as they sat together on the crowded patio of a College Street cafe. The men were among hundreds of people watching a Euro Cup soccer match in the neighbourhood’s bars and restaurants that day when a gunman, dressed in a hard hat, construction vest and dust mask covering his face, approached them and opened fire with a handgun. Patriarca was sitting with John Raposo who was shot five times in the head and died from his injuries. Toronto police have since said Raposo was the intended victim of ‘the targeted hit.’” Four people have since been charged in connection with that shooting, including Rabih Alkhalil (see earlier story on the Alkhalil brothers). Police have said the murder was likely related to an underworld dispute involving large quantities of cash and cocaine.
According to CBC News, Patriarca and his family “live in homes that are heavily secured, and rigged with surveillance cameras. But Patriarca’s residence was under renovation, so he, his wife and two children recently moved into a rented home. It was his wife who called 911 after discovering his body.”
A Toronto police spokesperson said that Patriarca “has never been charged with an offence in relation to organized crime.”
Sources: CBC News, January 26, 2015, Etobicoke murder victim survived 2012 Little Italy patio shooting; Toronto Star, January 31, 2016, Murder victim Alfredo Patriarca was picked up on Rizzuto wiretaps: police source; Torstar News Service, February 18, 2016, Police downplay mob angle in Etobicoke man’s murder
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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Patriarca was probably involved with the C untreras. What makes you think so? Because he was tied to the Caputo twins one of them was charged last year in the same bust as Liborio C untrera.
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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The Police of the Province of Reggio Calabria prohibits the funeral in public for Pietro Commisso. Yesterday, at 7:00 am, at the cemetery of Siderno, in Reggio Calabria, was held, strictly private, the funeral of Pietro Commisso, 85, died on January 22, leading member of the homonymous gang operating in Siderno, with branches in Canada, Argentina and Australia, active in drug trafficking, in infiltration in public procurement and extortion rackets. Per approfondire http://www.strettoweb.com/2017/01/ndrang...iQprISuaUBSe.99
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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Thanks antimafia for the above post.
What's your take on the Raposo-Patriarca situation? I haven't researched the topic much but from what I gather the murder was linked to that biker dude Nero?
Do you think that Raposo and Patriarca were possibly targeted by the Siderno group? Dave, I missed your post above. Sorry. I don't have any profound insights into the murders of Raposo and Patriarca, as there were many articles, published about both killings, that contained information about the links each of them had to other criminals and, of course, to each other. We all know who the four suspects in the Raposo murder are: Nick Nero, Rabih (Robby) Al Khalil, Martino Caputo, and Dean Wiwchar (the shooter). Nero has ties to the Hells in Niagara Falls, Ontario (but is not a biker himself) and, at the time of his being charged in the Raposo murder, was already in prison as a result of the Project Ink investigation(s) into cocaine smuggling/trafficking. Al Khalil has ties to Shane Maloney of Montreal's West End Gang and to the British Columbia Hells Angel Larry Amero--all three were already facing cocaine smuggling/trafficking charges and all were working in Montreal. Al Khalil is likely an associate of Amero. Caputo and his twin brother, Antonio, at times when both have been based in Toronto, had long been known to be associates of Vito Rizzuto; Martino, the one charged in Raposo's murder, has been in the news more often. Martino had ties to the missing-and-never-been-found Giuseppe (Joe) Renda, as both were caught up in the Montreal Mafia-tied gambling-ring bust in Ontario in the early 2000s. Martino, who has been described as Nero's right-hand man and was also caught up in the Project Ink investigation(s), was also charged at the same time that Liborio Cun-trera and Marco Pizzi were in relation to phase 3 of Project Clemenza, which investigated cocaine importation (about 220 kg smuggled from the US into Canada via commercial vehicles). Wiwchar has roots in British Columbia and just recently lost an appeal on firearms convictions he faced in that province. Raposo was described in one or two articles as a former associate of Nero and Caputo, which suggests a possible fallout. I'm fairly certain Raposo's murder had more to do with his drug-related criminal activity than with illegal gambling--mention had been made in one or two articles that Raposo may have had unpaid debts, and his connection to Caputo does then raise the question about illegal gambling. As to how Raposo may have connections to GTA Siderno Group members, my guess is that Raposo (Portuguese-Canadian) could have been introduced to the 'ndranghetisti in the GTA by the much older Eddie Melo (former well-known Canadian boxer, killed in 2001, who never actually obtained his Canadian citizenship after arriving in Canada from Portugal as a young boy). Melo, who was a driver for Frank Cotroni Sr. whenever the latter was in Toronto in the 1980s and 1990s, was actually identified in a Calabrian document in the early 1990s as a member of the Siderno Group--I can double check the date of the document when I get home if anyone is interested; the mention of this document is made in Peter Edwards and Antonio Nicaso's Deadly silence: Canadian mafia murders. Melo and Raposo's friendship was mentioned in an article or two. My guess is that Raposo may have been involved in distribution of drugs imported by Siderno Group members. Patriarca, who was at the ice cream patio when Raposo was killed, was hit by a stray bullet that day. But the media didn't know anything or much at all about Patriarca's criminal ties at the time--as a victim, he wasn't even identified. Only later did the information come out about Patriarca and Raposo knowing each other, as well as Patriarca's being overheard on Project Colisée wiretaps. So did Patriarca set up Raposo, as has been theorized? If yes, does it necessarily follow that Patriarca was killed because of the setup? If no, are their murders still unrelated or are they in fact still related because the same people who wanted Raposo dead also wanted Patriarca dead? The possibilities regarding motives are endless, but I still think that, as I wrote in the other thread, both killings could be related to tensions between Montreal and the GTA Siderno Group before and after Rizzuto died toward the end of 2013.
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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Woodbridge café explosion suggests mob tensions ‘are heating up’ https://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2017/06/29/man-arrested-after-explosion-rocks-woodbridge-caf.htmlExcerpt: A massive explosion at a Woodbridge café has police wondering if southern Ontario is on the brink of a hot summer of mob violence. “It’s a suspicious explosion,” Const. Andy Pattenden said after the blast early Thursday, which knocked a wall off the Café Corretto on Winges Rd., near the Hwy. 7 and Weston Rd. The incident came as investigators probe whether there are connections between a spate of recent mob attacks in Hamilton and York Region....
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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^^^^ "Burned male found at scene of Vaughan cafe explosion charged with arson" https://www.yorkregion.com/news-story/74...rged-with-arson________________ I still think this arson is in relation to friction within the Siderno Group regarding gambling and loansharking as opposed to disputes with other crime groups about drug turf and cocaine dealing. The firebombing of the Di Manno bakery, on the other hand, now has me wondering whether there are elements of the Siderno Group who are in business with remnants of the Sollecito-Rizzuto faction in Montreal.
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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^^^^ "Burned male found at scene of Vaughan cafe explosion charged with arson" https://www.yorkregion.com/news-story/74...rged-with-arson________________ I still think this arson is in relation to friction within the Siderno Group regarding gambling and loansharking as opposed to disputes with other crime groups about drug turf and cocaine dealing. The firebombing of the Di Manno bakery, on the other hand, now has me wondering whether there are elements of the Siderno Group who are in business with remnants of the Sollecito-Rizzuto faction in Montreal. You caught my curiosity, what makes you think that DiManno's bakery arson was related to the Sollecito/Rizzuto faction ?
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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Are they saying the wolf pack is with the rizzuto's? I think this was stated in an earlier article. This is pretty significant: "At the time of his death, Rizzuto was believed by police to have drafted a “black list” of men in the Commisso family he wanted killed." It makes sense that the Commisso approval was necessary for the Siderno group to back Montagna and others in their bid to overthrow the Rizzutos. It also makes sense that this Wolfpack Alliance need some backing from other Italian crime groups (perhaps the old Rizzuto group) to go after 'ndrangheta members.
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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Are they saying the wolf pack is with the rizzuto's? This latest article, as well as Rob Lamberti's July 3 article, claim that the Wolf Pack has ties to remnants of the Rizzuto group. However, I don't know just how strong a Sollecito-Rizzuto faction is at this point. Lamberti is the one who broke this news -- see http://www.torontosun.com/2017/07/03/recent-mob-violence-a-drug-war -- but Edwards has scrounged up some interesting tidbits.
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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Liborio? I understand why they did it but I thing they would of been better off brokering a deal with the Ndrangheta from Ontario. Might be too late for that. Interesting article. Thanks for posting Hollander.
When Edwards says that 2 senior York region mobsters left town, one related to Commisso and the other to Agostino. Is he saying Commisso's and Cun-trera's are on the same side and worried about the wolf pack alliance? or in was it meant in more general terms such that they both just left because of the tensions I don't think he was saying they were on the same side, he was just mentioning both I think to show that both sides are facing death.
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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I wonder if the Rizzutos would've kept the Bonanno flag, even in name only, if it would've preveted this war? Doubtful that NY could've stopped anything though, especially how decimated they were once Massino flipped.
Wonder too where the five families currently stand on all of this? The Gambinos seem to have some connections with the Ndrangheta, and have been at meetings in Canada in the past amongst many different groups (Calabrian and Sicilian). Wonder if they support the Ontario Ndrine groups? Cali and John Gambino are Palermitani whereas the Rizzutos are Agrigentines, so it's not impossible to believe the Gambinos wouldn't necessarily side with the Rizzutos (if they had a stake in the conflict).
Either way, it seems as if almost the entire Rizzuto leadership has been wiped out, so those remaining would probably be smart to cut a truce, but this old world shit goes back so deep for hundreds of years it's probably impossible.
Also, I'm shocked a C.untrera fled to Venezuela. That whole country is so violent and going straight to hell. I talked with someone in Montreal who's family is in the life and they told me that they had fled Caracas a few years prior because of how bad the violence is. Tons of murders and kidnappings... have to go everywhere with a bunch of bodyguards. So if that C.untrera had to flee Canada to go to Venezuela, they must really be scared they're gonna get clipped.
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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Also, I'm shocked a C.untrera fled to Venezuela. That whole country is so violent and going straight to hell. I talked with someone in Montreal who's family is in the life and they told me that they had fled Caracas a few years prior because of how bad the violence is. Tons of murders and kidnappings... have to go everywhere with a bunch of bodyguards. So if that C.untrera had to flee Canada to go to Venezuela, they must really be scared they're gonna get clipped. Don't fall for those lies. No reliable source has stated he went to Venezuela. Based on Business or Blood I'm thinking that Big Joe [BadWord] betrayed the Rizzutos by siding with the Siderno group members.
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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^^^^ "Burned male found at scene of Vaughan cafe explosion charged with arson" https://www.yorkregion.com/news-story/74...rged-with-arson________________ I still think this arson is in relation to friction within the Siderno Group regarding gambling and loansharking as opposed to disputes with other crime groups about drug turf and cocaine dealing. The firebombing of the Di Manno bakery, on the other hand, now has me wondering whether there are elements of the Siderno Group who are in business with remnants of the Sollecito-Rizzuto faction in Montreal. You caught my curiosity, what makes you think that DiManno's bakery arson was related to the Sollecito/Rizzuto faction ? The Business or Blood book indicates that Rocco Sollecito had visited Ontario at least six times in the months before Vito Rizzuto's death (December 2013) and that he would have known the mourners from Ontario who paid their respects at Rizzuto's funeral in Quebec. (pp. 267, 268) Sollecito, of course, visited Ontario--Toronto in particular--numerous times over many decades. A lot of the Montrealers who have been part of or involved with the Montreal Mafia were or are no strangers to Toronto and its suburbs. Conversely, you can say the same about Ontario-based members of the 'ndrangheta, Sicilian Cosa Nostra, and American LCN having visited Montreal over the decades. With whom was Sollecito meeting in Ontario? Who were the members of the 'ndrangheta in Ontario that, according to the aforementioned book (p. 268), were observed attending Rizzuto's funeral--do we automatically assume Pat and/or Angelo Musitano, who might have been worried about being seen associating with members of organized crime? Or were GTA-based Siderno Group members in attendance? Is there any truth to the discovery during the Acero-Krupy operation targeting the 'ndrangheta that Carmine Verduci and Sollecito had links? Any truth to the theory that Verduci was killed because of his ties to Sollecito? Any truth to Sollecito's having close ties with 'ndrangheta clans of the Locride (an area in the province of Reggio Calabria)? Was Sollecito murdered because of his ties to Verduci? Adrian Humphreys wrote on the day after the murders and attempted murders at the Moka cafe in Woodbridge (June 2015) that the establishment at that address had previously operated under a different name, with different owners. One of the co-owners of the differently named establishment is related to Vito Rizzuto's wife, and this co-owner's name was removed from the paperwork just two days after the business was registered--Verduci was previously seen socializing at this place before it closed down, but we don't know how often. What follows is a result of some sleuthing on my part. In July 2015, an espresso machine was installed at the Di Manno Bakery in Woodbridge. (It really is just a coincidence that the installation happened in proximity to the shootings at the Moka.) The company that installed the machine is owned by relatives of Rizzuto's wife. The company employee who installed the machine descends from Siderno (Reggio Calabria). The point I'm trying to make is that one of the many possible reasons there is internal friction in the GTA Siderno Group is that after decades of criminal collaboration with the Montreal Mafia, some Siderno Group members still want to continue doing business with Montreal, most of said business having been conducted in the 2000s and a significant part of said business having been conducted in Italy--the latter is why the 'ndranghetista Carmelo Bruzzese was charged in Italy with being a member of Cosa Nostra, a charge of which he was acquitted.
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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Not Liborio, Giuseppe, son of Paolo, nephew to Liborio. Agostino [BadWord] was a cousin of Giuseppe's father. So Liborio is a distant cousin of Giuseppe. Ok, we are talking about two different people.
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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A couple of quick thoughts:
* Éric Thibault wrote that article, back in April of this year, in which he indicates no one wants to be in charge of the Montreal Mafia. Compare this article with Peter Edwards's article from yesterday. You'll recall that in Thibault's article, he cited a senior law-enforcement officer who said that even the 'ndrangheta in Ontario, where Paolo Violi's sons live, don't seem to want to be in control of Montreal; and that, furthermore, if members of the 'ndrangheta in Ontario are networking in Quebec, they don't seem to have the resolve or the will to make a breakthrough in Montreal.
* Of the seven leaders of the Siderno Group's 'ndrine in the GTA who were identified in 2010, I believe that Cosimo Commisso is the only one of those leaders who isn't in prison or a fugitive. The Commissos in the GTA wield a lot of power and influence, but Cosimo still had only one vote on the camera di controllo. The poster eurodave164 occasionally asks whether the GTA Siderno Group is heeding orders from Calabria or not, as the Siderno Group in the Toronto area is supposed to answer to those back home. I think the 'ndrine here have not been getting along because they aren't listening to people like Rocco Aquino, who is the head of the Marina di Gioiosa Ionica locale.
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Not Liborio, Giuseppe, son of Paolo, nephew to Liborio. Agostino [BadWord] was a cousin of Giuseppe's father. So Liborio is a distant cousin of Giuseppe. Ok, we are talking about two different people. I'm talking about the Giuseppe 'Big Joe' [BadWord] who is believed to be the head of the [BadWord]-Caruana clan.
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There are two Giuseppe Cun treras in the GTA, that's why Pasquale's son is called Big Joe. Who's the other one? Not much is known. Born in 1962, lived until 1989 in Aruba. He owns/owned two restaurants in Toronto. Big Joe was born in 1956.
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Peter Edwards's most recent article, which was published this past Sunday, is receiving a lot of attention. As a result, he's been appearing on radio/talk shows. Yesterday he was interviewed on the "Bill Kelly Show," which airs on AM900 CHML in Hamilton. Below are two links to the first 4 minutes and 45 seconds of the interview (the first link may not work well on your mobile): https://omny.fm/shows/bill-kelly-show/are-members-of-organized-crime-trying-to-claim-vithttps://www.facebook.com/AM900CHML/videos/10155637229148628/Edwards was up first on the show, which ran a total of 52 minutes and 57 seconds. Below is the link to the full program; Edwards appears at the very beginning, and the total length of the segment goes to the 15:32 mark, i.e., the full interview was 15 minutes, 32 seconds. https://omny.fm/shows/bill-kelly-show/organized-crime-bike-lanes-and-infrastructure-dollApparently, you can listen to the podcast of the full interview by downloading it on Apple iTunes and Google Play--I don't have any links, though.
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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The Ndrangheta Clans are the new Strong and Powerful Italian Mafia Organisation this Times and in the Future.
The Rizuttos they were once maybe the Richest and strongest Mafia Family in North America have no Chance against the Calabrian Clans.
This Guys have More Money, more Power Worldwide, more in the Drug Business, more contacs to other Criminal Organisations, and a lot more secretive as the Sicily Guys.
Also the Caruana/cun... i think is more a Power from the Past, not the Future.
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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what do you mean with these Clans. What's up with these Clans?
You think this ndrinas are active in Canada? They worked closely with the Aquino-Coluccio from Marina di Gioiosa Ionica. Are you possibly confusing Antonio Macrì of Sinopoli with relatives of Z'ntoni of Siderno? I don't recall any investigations in which the Alvaro-Violi-Macrì cosca has been linked to the Aquino-Coluccio cosca. If you have a source, please share if you don't mind. In Ontario, Carmine Verduci would have felt comfortable operating a crew in Hamilton. His birthplace of Oppido Mamertina likely provided him with natural connections to Giacomo Luppino's relatives, including Paolo Violi's sons Domenico and Giuseppe (regardless of the fact that Paolo Violi's birthplace was Sinopoli). If Verduci's murder was the result of the Toronto-area conflict between the Figliomeni clan and the Aquino-Coluccio clan, do we still consider him a chief plotter in the attempt to topple the Montreal Mafia hierarchy? If his murder wasn't the result of the aforesaid conflict, was he targeted from within the Siderno Group for some other reason that had to do with other internal dissent? Or did Vito Rizzuto exact revenge for Verduci's involvement in the high-profile murders in 2010? I am very curious about James Dubro's thoughts earlier this year about the murder of Angelo Musitano in early May and the firing of shots into Pat Musitano's home in late June. Dubro's source(s) told him that a new player in Hamilton was a new 'ndrangheta cell from the Italian mainland--if there is such a new cell, is it a rival of the Musitano group? the Luppino-Violi group? or of both? ______________ Below is more evidence of the problems that were brewing in the Greater Toronto Area Siderno Group more than five months before the December 2009 murder of Nick Rizzuto Jr. From volume 3 of the Operazione Il Crimine arrest warrants, which refer on pp. 1981–1982 to a July 18, 2009 conversation in Calabria between Vincenzo Tavernese (of Thornhill, just north of Toronto) and Rocco Aquino of Marina di Gioiosa Ionica: Poi il dialogo continua con TAVERNESE che chiede ad AQUINO Rocco di andare a Toronto perché vi sono delle persone che si stanno comportando male con loro:
TAVERNESE V.: vieni a Toronto una quindicina di giorni... AQUINO R.: no… penso che vengo... TAVERNESE V.: devi venire anche per sessantaquattro...(n.d.r.: soprannome) AQUINO R.: no ma io a quest'ora dovrei essere lì... TAVERNESE V.: non puoi lasciare a Vice?..perchè lo devi andare a riprendere in qualche maniera… subito subito...ahh?..perchè solo questo è rimasto..hai capito? AQUINO R.: si... TAVERNESE V.: ehh..perchè ci imbroglia...se ti metti tu non sbroglia nessuno...inc... AQUINO R.: adesso sta con questi due... mi ha detto " che me ne faccio di questi cornuti"... TAVERNESE V.: è bravo...è bravo...ti dico che è una bravissima persona...lui si è cresciuto sempre con tuo zio...ahh? AQUINO R.: me ne fotto di loro... TAVERNESE V.: ahhh?...con..inc...là...hanno preso tutti e due qui... AQUINO R.: ahhh? TAVERNESE V.: capisci?... AQUINO R.: ma noi dobbiamo...inc... TAVERNESE V.: si si ... AQUINO R.: ce ne fottiamo degli altri... TAVERNESE V.: si si con noi...con noi... AQUINO R.: io.. aspetta un attimo...se parliamo di tutti i costi che ha lì sopra.. non eravamo lì da Peppe...inc... erano per fatti loro, a me mi riguarda se facciano una cosa noi... …OMISSIS… dialoghi incomprensibili a causa del basso tono di voce Fino alle ore 10.47.36La conversazione appena riportata appare estremamente interessante poiché dimostra il ruolo di capo ricoperto da AQUINO Rocco (cl. 60), tanto rispettato che, solo con il suo intervento, TAVERNESE ritiene di poter risolvere un contrasto in Canada con un soggetto (indicato come “64”), di origini italiane, che sembrerebbe essere rimasto l’unico a non accordarsi con loro nell’area di Toronto (lett: “perchè solo questo è rimasto”). I'll repeat below what I previously typed in the thread titled "The mafia and a very special flower arrangement" ( http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthr...true#Post922575). Emergeva, tra l’altro, un significativo spaccato sull’operatività criminale di tale sodalizio, storicamente conosciuto come “Siderno Group of Crime”, confermando pienamente la sua dipendenza organizzativa e decisionale dalla “locale madre” sidernese. The preceding sentence essentially states that the GTA Siderno Group, which gets orders from the mother house in Siderno and is supposed to obey said orders, went rogue. So if the GTA Siderno Group started experiencing problems after Giuseppe Coluccio's arrest in July 2008 and, one year later, Vincenzo Tavernese is asking Rocco Aquino to make an appearance in Toronto to quell tensions, was only one faction on board with meddling in Montreal's affairs? Because I can't see the whole commissione (board of control) being unanimously behind such a move.
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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I feel really presumptuous even posting, I usually just read what you guys post cause you all are so well versed I this topic, but here's a couple a two cents in the hat.....
This situation is very complicated. I think you are correct in the deduction that not all of the Siderno group was behind the moves on the Rizzutos. I think it was the Coluccio group, and maybe the Commissos.
The Violis are related to the Commissos right? And the Coluccios had the connections to the Mexicans right? The Zeta-Gulf organization?
I think the Violis-Commiso-Coluccio group was probably behind it...
Couple of fun facts.......
Don't you find it interesting that the Rizzutos went " rouge" , half the people following don't believe it, but here you have circumstantial evidence that the Toronto Calabrese family based drug clans, APPARENTLY DID THE SAME THING!!?? Lol, I keep telling people it's a consequence of being entrenched in narcotics operations. Drug operations BIRTH criminal syndicates. They are like incubators and steroids for criminal networks.
They dramatized this exact scenario on the second season of Gomorrah. The guy Mico said, " These guys are the worst pigs....... Get permission from this one, go over here talk to this one to get the okay from this guy here...( or some shit like that, he was complaining about the ruling council in Calabria)
And then Gennaro was like " They had a meeting in Polsi, and the Mother ( the holiest of all Mothers, the Calabrese commission) is pissed......
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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Link: Mob fugitive arrested in Rome after seven years hiding in Toronto area http://nationalpost.com/news/world/...after-seven-years-hiding-in-toronto-area_______________ From the article: Police in Italy knew [Tito Figlomeni] was in Canada, however, because several wiretaps in Mafia probes kept catching mobsters talking about him and mentioning him. He was involved in a dispute between mob factions in Ontario over illegal video gambling machines in bars and cafes, a dispute that required intervention from the mob clan’s leadership in Siderno, according to court documents from Italy. It may have been that dispute that led to his arrest. Figliomeni was arrested on March 10 by Toronto police when officers were conducting a liquor license inspection, the Post has learned. He was not charged in the liquor probe but arrested on the immigration warrant. Toronto police could not confirm the arrest prior to deadline. CBSA would not confirm or deny his removal, citing privacy concerns....
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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The latest murder victim is senior Siderno Group figure Rocco Zito. "Toronto police identify Playfair Ave. shooting victim as Rocco Zito" http://on.thestar.com/1WTvvrLDomenico Scopelliti, charged in January 2016 with the murder of Rocco Zito, his father-in-law, has his trial begin tomorrow at 10:00 am at the Ontario Superior Court of Justice in downtown Toronto. A motion is also scheduled at 10:00 am. The cocaine-trafficking trial of 'ndrangheta member Giuseppe Ursino and 'ndrangheta associate Cosmin Dracea is being held in the same courthouse and continues tomorrow.
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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Those of you who are following the various threads regarding the Siderno Group in the Greater Toronto Area know that I've recently been linking to articles written by Peter Edwards, who is covering the cocaine-trafficking trial of Giuseppe Ursino and Cosmin Dracea. The article to which I've linked below could have been been posted in one of a number of threads, but I decided to post here. ‘Respect’ came up at least 33 times in secret tapes, drug trafficking trial told https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...t-tapes-drug-trafficking-trial-told.htmlExcerpt: On May 23, 2014, [Carmine] Guido and Ursino spoke elliptically about the murder of reputed York Region mobster Carmine Verduci a month earlier. Verduci was shot dead outside the Regina Café in an industrial and retail plaza near Hwy. 7 and Martin Grove Rd. The killing remains unsolved. Guido told Ursino that a man named Antonio Coluccio ordered the closure of the Regina Café after the murder. “They said close it for respect for Carmine, and they closed it,†Guido said. “What’s Carmine have to do with this?,†Ursino asked. “Because they killed him outside of there,†Guido said. “Closed. I don’t know why but together ... now it’s …†“They were four or five that were involved,†Ursino said in a combination of English and Italian....
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/man-and-woman-found-dead-in-woodbridge-identified-by-police-1.3993967A man and a woman are both dead after a double shooting in Woodbridge overnight. The shooting took place outside an address on Castlepoint Drive near Highway 27 and Martin Grove Road at around 12:45 a.m. Reports from the scene indicate that the windows of a white SUV parked outside the home were shot out and that broken glass was scattered on the ground beside the vehicle.
Double shooting in Woodbridge Police tape blocks off a SUV where a man and woman were reportedly found shot dead early on June 29, 2018. white SUV A white SUV that a man and woman were reportedly shot inside early Friday morning is shown. Evidence markers were also seen on the driveway leading up to the home. Neighbours tell CP24 that they heard a series of gunshots, followed by a brief pause and some audible yelling before another burst of gunshots. The victims were both pronounced dead on scene. Investigators identified the victims as Cosimo Commisso, 33, of Vaughan and 26-year-old Chantelle Almeida of Toronto. Police are currently canvassing the area for witnesses. “There is an active plea right now for witnesses. I don’t have any suspect information just yet but if anybody was in the area at the time, has dash cam footage, security camera footage that would be helpful,†Staff Sgt. Dave Mitchell told CP24 at the scene. “Don’t assume we know everything. You may have the piece of the puzzle that may break this case and help us figure out who has done this.†Mitchell said that the white Mazda SUV that was riddled with bullets is “obviously†a part of the investigation but he said that police have not yet been able to determine whether the victims were seated inside it when gunfire erupted. He said that officers will likely be on scene all day. I'm not sure exactly which thread this should go in so I will just give one for now. Antimafia or somebody who is a bit more informed can repost the link to which ever thread(s) they believe to be the correct one for this. Could this be related to the Mustiano hit? or maybe its related to the Rizzuto's? Something else. Additionally it appears that there are two Cosimo Commisso's. Cosimo Comisso who what shot yesterday and Cosimo Comisso 72 who was involved in the case below. Father and son. Jr. & senior. Just to add some information here: Cosimo Commisso was most recently connected to the Ndrangheta trial of Giuseppe (Pino) Ursino altho Cosimo Commisso was but the charges were dropped. https://www.thestar.com/news/canada...of-ndrangheta-organized-crime-group.html https://nationalpost.com/news/canad...onto-police-in-international-fraud-probeEdit: Corrected information.
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^^^^ The Crown is seeking a sentence for Scopelliti the equivalent of 11 years; the Defence, a sentence of 7 years. The judge has between now and Wednesday, September 5 to deliberate--the latter date is when Scopelliti will be sentenced.
He will get 1.5 days' credit for every 1 day in pre-trial custody (which includes up to his sentencing date of September 5; I've calculated close to 48 months). The two sides agreed to an additional 5 months of enhanced credit, which will reduce the length of time he is in the penitentiary to serve his sentence. . Domenico Scopelliti was given a sentence of 10 years this morning in relation to the murder of his father-in-law, Rocco Zito. Scopelliti was in detention for 951 days; therefore, he received credit for 1,426.5 days, or 47.5 months. He also received credit for another four months, for a total of 51.5 months. Therefore, the total time he will serve in the penitentiary will be 5 years, 8.5 months. After he is released, he will be on probation for life.
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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Dozens of killings in Toronto’s record-tying year remain unsolved — so why do some killers avoid justice? https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/an...o-why-do-some-killers-avoid-justice.html__________ From Peter Edwards's article: Killings by strangers who didn’t have a relationship with their victims are particularly challenging. There’s often a fear factor in gang-related cases, meaning officers need trust to gather information, Rossmo said. In hardcore organized crime cases, a hired killer might not know his victim or even the motive for a killing. In Toronto, recent unsolved murders with sharp organized crime overtones include the slayings of Simon Giannini and Antonio (Tony Large) Sergi in 2017, and the fatal shootings of John Ignagni, Sukhvir Deo, and Alfredo Patriarca in 2016. In York region, recent unsolved murders with a professional edge include Cosimo Ernesto Commisso in 2018, Domenic Triumbari in 2017, Carmine Verduci in 2014, Salvatore (Sam) Calautti, 40, and his associate James Tusek in 2013. A retired veteran organized crime investigator in the GTA said that police often feel they know who committed gangland murders, but they can’t make arrests because they don’t have co-operating witnesses. Sometimes the victims are suspected hit men, who evaded murder charges themselves. “It was utter frustration,†the officer said. “You knew who did it but you could rarely prove it unless you got someone to completely roll over.†Organized crime cases often require a sizable budget, police say. “They require a lot of surveillance and it’s expensive,†said Paul Bailey, a retired York Regional Police detective said. Investigating organized crime cases often requires “spin teams†of several officers who follow suspects’ cars discreetly, Bailey said. Police forces have a restricted number of spin teams, and numerous investigations compete for their services, Bailey said. “We would have to make a pitch to get a spin team to work on that,†Bailey said.
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The State Police has notified in prison to Tommaso Costa, 60, a prominent member of the homonymous gang of 'ndrangheta di Siderno , currently detained in Viterbo, an order for precautionary custody because he was considered the perpetrator of the murder of Vincenzo Figliomeni, alias "il brigante", which took place on December 19, 1988.
Tommaso Costa, in competition with another person, then deceased, killed Vincenzo Figliomeni, father of Angelo and Cosimo, "the brigands", currently fugitives in Canada.
"The king is dead, long live the king!"
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2018 Annual Report: Moka Café Homicide https://www.yrp.ca/en/Modules/News/index.aspx?newsId=1c577afa-f967-41b7-8c09-cc96ce8d15f9Posted on Tuesday July 23, 2019 Three years of persistence sends killer to prison for 50 years
One on one with the lead detectiveStaring at the phone on August 14, 2015, Detective Kevin McCloskey reflected on the summer that had just passed. “What summer?†he quipped, three years later. Truth is, for seven-and-ahalf weeks, the homicide investigator and his team had spent nearly every waking minute hunting a killer. When the phone rang, he learned that the hunt was over. The work, however, had just begun. “Getting this ready for court was going to be 10 times the work than it was to investigate the case up until arrest,†Detective McCloskey said. Sixty kilometres away in Barrie, Jason Hay sat on the sweltering hot shoulder of a highway, his hands cuffed behind his back. The 27-year-old was arrested for killing two people at a Vaughan café two months earlier. He had spent his last summer as a free man. The summer was only three days old on June 24 when Hay, shrouded in a mask and hoodie, rushed into the Moka Café with a semi-automatic weapon and fired 11 shots, hitting four people. Two of those people— 24-year-old patron Christopher De Simone and 47-year-old server Maria Voci—were left dead at the scene. During his month-long trial in May 2018, the jury never learned that those murders were not the first in which Hay had been involved. In fact, the charges he faced in the café shooting were only the latest on a record that included 58 criminal convictions, stretching back to childhood. “This offender was easily one of the most violent people I have ever dealt with,†said Detective McCloskey. The jury also never learned that when Hay’s image was first released to the public—captured on surveillance footage while he cased the Islington Avenue plaza the day before the murders—that it was a correctional officer who recognized him from a stint in Milhaven Institution who identified him to police. Two guns recovered from the vehicle during the high-risk Highway 400 arrest were also barred from the dialogue in court. That information would have easily compromised the integrity of the trial. But knowing the trail of victims Hay had left behind served as motivation for members of the Homicide Unit to put forth an airtight case and send the career criminal to prison for life. “When you’re in court, you experience the emotion and grief of the families of victims,†Detective McCloskey said. “That’s when it resonates with you, the impact of the work police teams do.†In this case, that work was plenty. Investigators conducted roughly 130 interviews and executed 40 warrants in the three-year span between the slayings and court proceedings. Those warrants uncovered cellphone tower information that placed Hay at a Burger King in Toronto, calling for a cab hours after the murder. Just minutes earlier, surveillance cameras captured a Nissan Versa pulling into a nearby industrial area. That stolen car, recovered by police a week later, was the same vehicle Hay drove to the Moka Café the morning of the shooting. When investigators searched his phone, they also found a picture of Hay taken days before the shooting. He was seen smiling, wearing a Toronto Blue Jays baseball cap. The cap was the same one he was seen wearing in the plaza’s surveillance footage the day before the murders. "Ultimately that phone contained a lot of valuable evidence." Said Detective McCloskey. The lead investigator believes that information gleaned from the phone was one of the greatest influences on the jury, who ultimately found Hay guilty of two counts of FirstDegree Murder and two counts of Attempted Murder on May 28. After three years, the work of more than 100 officers who contributed to the investigation was finally done. “I could actually feel the stress physically leaving my body,†McCloskey said. On July 8, Hay became only the sixth murderer in Canadian history to receive consecutive life sentences, putting him in prison for 50 years without chance of parole.
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"Toronto? By now it's worse than Siderno », slots in bars sparked the 'ndrangheta war by Rocco Muscari - 12 August 2019 "But where c .. you have to go ..., says that it has become worse than here [to Siderno], a c ... of brothel" . It is February 13, 2019 when Macrì conversed with a family member of Carmelo Muià , known as "Mino", advises him not to go to Canada where, in recent times, there have been a series of criminal events and conflicts that had also affected some of the "Major" of the families of Siderna, operating overseas. These are some of the background contained in the precautionary custody order of the operation "Canadian 'Ndrangheta Connection" which in recent days has led to 28 arrests. Disagreements related also to a split by some belonging to the Calabrian clans, allied "with the Sicilians" present in Canada - reconstructs the Gazzetta del Sud on newsstands -; a coalition that, in fact, placed those subjects in opposition to their own criminal interests. According to one of the conversants, it is up to the group of "Sicilians" to impute a series of violent actions committed against the members of the "Siderno Group of Crime", such as "the bomb at Co 'bar", the fire in the "Gimì" room and the killing of the grandson of "Remo Commisso". https://reggio.gazzettadelsud.it/ar...ta-7f1610be-592f-4ae3-a85d-360285b86f09/
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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So what did Verducci ever do to get himself killed? He became a victim of a conflict between the Coluccio and Figliomeni clans. He also allegedly sided with Montagna against the Rizzutos, who knows whether that played a role too. And yet another theory is provided by Anna Sergi -- go to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdUnm2PSqpo&feature=youtu.be and scrub to the 16:00 mark.
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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^^^^ Restructuring seems the most likely to me. There is also a theory suggested by a recent article about gangs that are alinged with the Rizzuto-Sollecito making their presence known. Do we know whether the target today is linked to Montreal? As far as I know there is no mention yet to suggest whether it is linked or not. Sonny_Black: I don't know of any ties that the restaurant has to any organized-crime group or activity. The chef-owner of this restaurant used to be the chef at Match Bar and Grill, also in Woodbridge (Vaughan)--this is information that anyone could find using Google. Match closed down several years ago even though business was quite good for a good chunk of time. It had several investors, but I'm not sure the chef had ownership back then. The chef at the restaurant where the shooting took place is one of the owners. He has co-owned several restaurants with a particular individual, including the restaurant in question. This individual is a Commisso, but that's the only information I have for now--this person may not be related to anyone in the Commisso crime group. Vito Rizzuto's wife's cousin in the GTA knows both of these co-owners (there may be more than two). Stay tuned.
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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There is/was group the Wolfpack, I don’t know much other than prominent HAs with alliances that may be responsible.
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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Remind me who is gunning for the Commisso's? in the wiretaps calabrian bosses in italy said 'the sicilians' but it is not known yet to whom they referred, probably the rizzuto's or caruana-cuntrera's If we knew who was targeting whom, as well as who is allied with whom, we could all quit our day jobs. The book Business or Blood had appeared to convincingly argue that the Caruana-Cuntrera group in the GTA had allied itself with the GTA Siderno Group against Vito Rizzuto and his loyalists. In Canada and Italy, criminal collaboration between the Caruana-Cuntrera clan and the Siderno Group has been a fact for many decades. Now, whether the alliance described in the book proved in time to be factually correct is another question altogether; there are also the possibilities that, if the alliance was indeed in place, the Caruana-Cuntrera group resumed being loyal to the "Sicilian" group in Montreal, and/or components of the GTA Siderno Group did the same. My opinion is that for a little more than 20 years, the seven 'ndrine that make up the Siderno Group in the GTA haven't been in agreement with one another about its relationship with a Montreal Mafia that was led by Vito Rizzuto and, after his death, by his loyalists. Recall that Humphreys and Lamothe's The Sixth Family explained that, in 1998, the Commissos in the GTA allowed the Rizzuto organization to establish more of a foothold in Ontario because the two crime families were allies. I also see more and more evidence of dissent within the GTA Siderno Group that has led to internecine violence over the last six years or so. From Rocco Muscari's Italian-language article published August 12, 2019 in the Gazzetta del Sud (Calabria edition, p. 17) (the excerpt below contains a very small portion of the transcript of the wiretaps): Afferrato il riferimento si collocava la vicenda nell'ambito di una scissione operata da qualche appartenente ai clan calabresi, alleatosi «con i siciliani» presenti in Canada: una coalizione che, di fatto, poneva quei soggetti in contrapposizione con i loro stessi interessi criminali. È al gruppo dei "siciliani", infatti, che secondo uno dei conversanti sarebbero da imputare una serie di azioni violente commesse contro i componenti del "Siderno Group of Crime", come ad esempio la bomba al bar di Co'", l'incendio del locale di "Gimi" e l'uccisione del nipote di "Remo Commisso": «Loro sono arrivati e sono entrati diretti; che gli ha detto che comanda lui. Gli hanno buttato il bar; da Gimi gli hanno messo fuoco; voglio vedere se comando io. Ma chi c...o [cazzo] sei tu? Gli hanno messo fuoco alla Road Food ... gli vuoi mettere fuoco a tutti. Perché se non hanno un motivo valido, che vai a fare una cosa, che gli hanno messo la bomba nel bar del Co* (Cosimo) "».
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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another possibility is that caruana-cuntrera's and rizzuto's are not allied, so the murder of agostino cuntrera was committed by rizzuto loyalists and the two groups are fighting eachother, and siderno group is also divided, some support one faction and some the other I don't know whether the Caruana-Cuntrera group and Rizzuto loyalists are allied in Quebec and Ontario at the moment or whether they always were. Liborio Cuntrera's being identified at one point as part of a mafia roundtable in Montreal might lend support to the argument that those two groups were and are allied, as does the strong theory that the Caruana-Cuntrera group were responsible for the disappearance of Giuseppe Renda, who had thrown his support behind Sal Montagna. (Recall that the New York–born Renda's parents were paesani of the Rizzutos.) In Daniel Renaud's Cellule 8002 vs mafia book, a chronological chart of the godfathers and leaders of the Montreal Mafia shows Agostino Cuntrera sandwiched between Paolo Renda (leading from 2006 to May 2010) and Nick Rizzuto Sr. (leading from July to November 2010). So police sources and other sources place Cuntrera as a leader of the Montreal Mafia for June 2010 only -- Renda's, Cuntrera's and Rizzuto Sr.'s murders coincided with the end of their respective tenure. This is why I don't think Cuntrera was murdered by Rizzuto loyalists. Cuntrera had ties with Carmine Verduci of the GTA Siderno Group, and Rocco Sollecito had ties to 'ndrangheta members who descended from the Locride -- I don't think the ties are what made Cuntrera and Sollecito targets for murder.
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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Remind me who is gunning for the Commisso's? in the wiretaps calabrian bosses in italy said 'the sicilians' but it is not known yet to whom they referred, probably the rizzuto's or caruana-cuntrera's There is a coalition of Calabrian clans, allied "with the Sicilians" present in Canada that are behind a series of violent actions committed against the members of the "Siderno Group of Crime", including arson attacks and the killing of the grandson of Remo Commisso. https://reggio.gazzettadelsud.it/ar...ta-7f1610be-592f-4ae3-a85d-360285b86f09/
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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Its cuntrera I'm a local word on the street commissos ripped them off a million dollars
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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Hey antimafia the reporter is also mixing up the Commissos lol. Was the article corrected after first being published online? What did the original article incorrectly state? The article says: Commisso has a serious but dated, criminal record, including conspiring to murder two Sicilian mobsters in Toronto.
He has denied involvement in criminal activities.
Commisso was captured in Woodbridge in 2005.But "the quail" have been in prison since '93.
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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Was directed to this..the Twitter of an Ex Cop from Hamilton..retweets about a Mob Associate giving information to the RCMP Detective in Stoney Creek. Implies it occur in 2016 and that the Cop sold the information to others within OC...lots has happened since https://mobile.twitter.com/mobinfiltratorSecond Tweet...claims it is a Hamilton informer.
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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Lots of information I never heard before, also reiterated of previous statements. The guy who does these seems well researched. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CoSmmJdslDY&list=WL&index=15&t=0sSeems like the Commisso and Figliomeni seem to be a thing to themselves of sorts, based on dominance of Siderno in Reggio? Both families have a long history it seems of success, if you can call it that. I know in Southern Italy, that the Sigs have key people in Calabria and Naples, since at least Lucky Luciano and Genovese over there, as well cigarettes, drugs and masonry with getting certain people as Cosa Nostra of sorts as in Camorra and Ndragheta. Could these Commisso and Figliomeni be that high level? What separates them, at the elite all the groups work together as one. Also Carmine Verducci was the Vito Rizzuto of sorts for the Ndragheta in Ontario, in the sense very influential. He had a presence in Hamilton. His murder was a bigger deal than was made to seem, and like Rizzuto created a power vacuum.
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