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Re: most annoying rats [Re: vinnietoothpicks26] #728725
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Originally Posted By: vinnietoothpicks26
Hes not a good guy. But I just don't find him to be intellectually dishonest like most guys on that list. He admits he was a rat, and doesn't try to come up with some excuse for why he did it. He dind't want to go to jail. He also was a legit underworld heavy hitter in the south Jersey area. Look up old articles of him from the 90's before he got revealed as an informant. The guy was a known wiseguy.
ya i guess i agree with what your saying, i always just thought he came off as arrogant. But your right he doesnt try deny it or make excuses, "i dont mind being called a rat, the word dont bother me", kind of funny. How bout sonny franzeses son, not micheal, but the fucking junkie that ratted on his own dad what POS.


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Re: most annoying rats [Re: streetbossliborio] #728730
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haha who doesnt hate previte? i kinda liked listening to al d'arco. didnt find him to be an annoying rat. Def loved the inside stories on how vic and gas operated

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Frank Calabrese Jr. He grew up in Elmwood Park. He WANTED to be in his Father's Crew. I know the guy. He is a drug addict thief. He should be shot in the fuckin' head for what he did to his father. All he had to do to get away from his father BEFORE he went to jail was take his wife and move to Arizona. That's all he had to do. But no, he stayed in the life and liked it because HE WANTED TO BE IN HIS FATHER'S CREW.
Then, later he stole the money because he became an addict. He didn't want to face him. He is the biggest hypocrite walking around free.
AT LEAST with his father, what you saw was what you got. Either you accepted him AS IS or you rejected him. There was no middle ground with Frank Sr.
I hope Frank Jr. dies violently.

I don't want to talk about it anymore. If someone wants to argue the opposite I will ignore it.

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Re: most annoying rats [Re: Chicago] #728764
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Apply what chicago said to John Veasey and you have my opinion on the polish junkie.


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Billy Cutolo Jr., such a cry baby. If he was a tough guy like he says he is he would of just whacked everyone instead of wearing a wire to "avenge his father". If this was Sicily they would of whacked him to just to assure he didn't avenge his father.

Re: most annoying rats [Re: streetbossliborio] #728879
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Joe massino is a multiple murderer, set up his successor and he is free today. Annoying.

Re: most annoying rats [Re: streetbossliborio] #728941
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massino def deserves whacking. even set up his successor for life.
massino was evil on a different level. and he murdered without just cause - george from canada, vito the zip

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and if we r talking massino his brother in law that rode massino's back to ub must be mentioned. sal vitale. in the book the last godfather it shows how the family just cut off massinos 1 day and forever. he was hated and had no heart whatsoever.

Re: most annoying rats [Re: streetbossliborio] #728944
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*the vitale family just cut off...

Re: most annoying rats [Re: streetbossliborio] #728960
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Definitely Massino that fat pig

Re: most annoying rats [Re: streetbossliborio] #867322
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Originally Posted By: streetbossliborio
oh and that guy who was a hitman for john stanfa and got made even though he was a junkie. apparently he leaves jonny chang voicemails? what a c*nt


I think it's kind of funny personally.

Veasey does not belong in this thread. The guy was not a mark for La Cosa Nostra. He didn't give a shit about the oath nor did he profess to. It's not his fault Frank Martines approached him on a building site while he was pouring cement and asked him if he wanted to join the Stanfa Crime Family.

They had him doing all their hits yet they couldn't pay him properly, any wonder he ratted?

Guys who belong on this list are Al D'Arco and Phil Leonetti who can preach about the way the mob should be run, lambast the guys running things and make all the bullshit excuses they want for ratting but they did it for their own selfish reasons.


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Re: most annoying rats [Re: Lilange] #867324
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Originally Posted By: Lilange
Cause he a fucken rat. Re Al D'Arco


Exactly. Rat on Amuso. Don't rat on anyone else.

The guy offered his services to the FBI for every mob trial in the 90's and early 00's.


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i find other rats more annoying than al

i hate previte that fat fuck

peter the crumb cant stand him either had that pedophile in his crew killing good guys for no reason

ralph natale i hate aswell bullshiter talks so much shit

i hate gravano aswell given a second chance and then goes and starts dealing drugs

not a fan of the cousin of vinny asaros


sal vitale i cant stand


to be honest i hate nearly all rats only a few i sympathies with like tory scardfi


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Re: most annoying rats [Re: Moe_Tilden] #867330
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Cause he a fucken rat. Re Al D'Arco


Exactly. Rat on Amuso. Don't rat on anyone else.

The guy offered his services to the FBI for every mob trial in the 90's and early 00's.

It's all or nothing when you decide to trust the Government. It's entirely possible that they knew something about D'Arco that he didn't know they had, and when he first spilled his midget guys they put him to the test to see if he was being honest with them. He's still a fucking rat, and the Goverment WILL coach you and even make outright lies for you to tell. But it's all or nothing with the Feds.

Although, I must admit, I know of a few guys who flipped who could have hurt a lot more people than they did. Cafaro could have hurt a lot of associates and a few more made guys, but he didn't. He's still a piece of shit. His own family hated him for what he did. I'm just saying. Same can be said for George Barone. He left out more guys than he gave up when he allocuted. His beef was mainly with the younger guys who put him out to pasture.


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I hate Chris the Miami bi sexual club Mogul, he will kill you, and then roll on some big names to walk, he should be no max right now, killed a innocent women.

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Originally Posted By: mackinblack007
I hate Chris the Miami bi sexual club Mogul, he will kill you, and then roll on some big names to walk, he should be no max right now, killed a innocent women.

I couldn't agree more. He's a self-serving, self-promoting nobody. An extremely violent scumbag that the Government let skate on at least one murder because no one gave a shit about the guy. Only in America can you get the death penalty for one murder, and a new identity for twenty murders. This country is nothing more than a failed experiment, and we only have ourselves to fucking blame. But I don't want to go all political now lol.


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Joe Massino and Chris Paciello. Irritating to an almost unbearable degree.

Re: most annoying rats [Re: streetbossliborio] #867343
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Dino Calabro is a pathetic loser

Re: most annoying rats [Re: pizzaboy] #867350
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Only in America can you get the death penalty for one murder, and a new identity for twenty murders.

In Russia and Italy it's no better in terms of making sense logically:

For example, a mayor of a Russian city got 9 years for ordering a hit (successfuly carried out) on a businessman, while a thief-in-law who kidnapped a gang rival without killing him got 25 years.

In Italy, the mafia hitman Vincenzo Chiodo who killed the boy Giuseppe Di Matteo (son of an informant) got 18 years of which he has to serve only 4,5 years in prison, while the rest he can spend in house arrest, and "house arrest" in Italy means you can even leave home during certain hours. Remember, we are talking about an individual who personally garrotted a child while the other 2 goons held the boy to prevent him from moving. Sick bastard, that one.


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Originally Posted By: mackinblack007
I hate Chris the Miami bi sexual club Mogul, he will kill you, and then roll on some big names to walk, he should be no max right now, killed a innocent women.

I couldn't agree more. He's a self-serving, self-promoting nobody. An extremely violent scumbag that the Government let skate on at least one murder because no one gave a shit about the guy. Only in America can you get the death penalty for one murder, and a new identity for twenty murders. This country is nothing more than a failed experiment, and we only have ourselves to fucking blame. But I don't want to go all political now lol.
he is a legit tuff guy, he will break your face but if you get the best of him, his fed buddies will wash you, he starts fights all the time ,he enjoys hurting people, I'd love him left alone in a room with tk.

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Originally Posted By: mackinblack007
he is a legit tuff guy, he will break your face but if you get the best of him, his fed buddies will wash you, he starts fights all the time ,he enjoys hurting people, I'd love him left alone in a room with tk.

He can no doubt handle himself. And he was built like a brick shithouse as a kid. But I've heard he's been dropped at least twice.

Prisco and DePalma both had drivers who were tougher. One of them flipped himself, and the other successfully left the life entirely, so I'm not going to post his name. But Bronx undoubtedly knows who I'm talking about.


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Originally Posted By: Dellacroce
Speaking of philly, how about that fat peice of human garbage ron pervite, claims he was a made guy just bc stanfa told him he was, bullshit u need the ceremony. He was a half ass gangster that "tried to commit a felony every day", what kind tool says something like that. [
Come on man whats so annoying about darco? He only flipped bc his pyscho bosses were gonna have killed, if theres was ever any1 who deserved to be ratted on it would be vic and gas(although it wouldve been more justice for al to just kill them)


D'Arco didnt have the balls to make a move or he would have done that instead of running to the feds

Same goes for Cutolo Jr.

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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: mackinblack007
he is a legit tuff guy, he will break your face but if you get the best of him, his fed buddies will wash you, he starts fights all the time ,he enjoys hurting people, I'd love him left alone in a room with tk.

He can no doubt handle himself. And he was built like a brick shithouse as a kid. But I've heard he's been dropped at least twice.

Prisco and DePalma both had drivers who were tougher. One of them flipped himself, and the other successfully left the life entirely, so I'm not going to post his name. But Bronx undoubtedly knows who I'm talking about.


pizza was gregs driver that irish guy i think he is mentioned in jack falcones book he apparently fell out with greg over money ended up getting no time from the falcone operartion

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Originally Posted By: gangstereport
Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: mackinblack007
he is a legit tuff guy, he will break your face but if you get the best of him, his fed buddies will wash you, he starts fights all the time ,he enjoys hurting people, I'd love him left alone in a room with tk.

He can no doubt handle himself. And he was built like a brick shithouse as a kid. But I've heard he's been dropped at least twice.

Prisco and DePalma both had drivers who were tougher. One of them flipped himself, and the other successfully left the life entirely, so I'm not going to post his name. But Bronx undoubtedly knows who I'm talking about.


pizza was gregs driver that irish guy i think he is mentioned in jack falcones book

No. I'm talking about the pre-Scores Case years. Greg was a desperate busted suitcase by the time Garcia got to him. And believe me, Greg didn't have a single redeeming quality about himself. So for me to put that out there, you have to believe it's true.

And I'm not trying to take anything away from Garcia. He's been involved in more successful undercover cases than Pistone. I'm just stating a fact. By the time Garcia met him, Greg wasn't half the man he used to be.


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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: mackinblack007
he is a legit tuff guy, he will break your face but if you get the best of him, his fed buddies will wash you, he starts fights all the time ,he enjoys hurting people, I'd love him left alone in a room with tk.

He can no doubt handle himself. And he was built like a brick shithouse as a kid. But I've heard he's been dropped at least twice.

Prisco and DePalma both had drivers who were tougher. One of them flipped himself, and the other successfully left the life entirely, so I'm not going to post his name. But Bronx undoubtedly knows who I'm talking about.


pizza was gregs driver that irish guy i think he is mentioned in jack falcones book

No. I'm talking about the pre-Scores Case years. Greg was a desperate busted suitcase by the time Garcia got to him. And believe me, Greg didn't have a single redeeming quality about himself. So for me to put that out there, you have to believe it's true.

And I'm not trying to take anything away from Garcia. He's been involved in more successful undercover cases than Pistone. I'm just stating a fact. By the time Garcia met him, Greg wasn't half the man he used to be.


i believe you i can defo believe he was a joke by the 2000s that whole nicky lasora thing was ridiculous. Was greg respected before scores?


the gambinos made a massive mistake in letting greg back in arnold and tony both got indicted because of gregs big mouth as did soldiers like robert vaccaro and luchese capo John Capra also got caught up in that investigation.

i still dont get why they let him back in they should have let him stay shelved the nicky lasora situation should have been a warning that the guy was bad news


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John Franzese Jr.

Guy ratted on his own father plus the man was over 90 years old and will probably die in prison, there is just no excuse for that in my book..

EDIT: My favorite, for lack of a better word, rat is Ron Previte, I don't know why he gets such a bad rep over here, I think he's refreshingly honest and has a great sense of humor imo..

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Nicky LaSorsa was a millionaire for years before he got made. He needed a button like a bald man needs a hair brush. But he wanted it desperately, and Greg and Louie helped him get it. They conveniently leave those kinds of facts out of books written by cops.

That whole thing was blown way out of proportion by the Feds and the media. Those tapes are nothing more than Greg talking just to hear himself talk. That's who he was. No one was getting killed over a fucking table at Rao's.

As far as Greg being respected before Scores, it depends on who you ask. A lot of people were afraid of him, and a lot of wiseguys hated his guts. It's like that with a lot of guys in the life.


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Originally Posted By: BillyBrizzi
John Franzese Jr.

Guy ratted on his own father plus the man was over 90 years old and will probably die in prison, there is just no excuse for that in my book..

EDIT: My favorite, for lack of a better word, rat is Ron Previte, I don't know why he gets such a bad rep over here, I think he's refreshingly honest and has a great sense of humor imo..



maybe because he exaggerates constantly abd became a rat because the feds offered to pay him money on a monthly basis and even before he wore a wire he had been a informant for the state and then the feds he was always a rat. He was a cop in his younger days and he was dirty doing scams and on the payroll he worked for the air force where he robbed the place constantly. He got paid like 5-8k a month i think at his height he earnt over a million for his cooperation and now he comes out crying that he did not get enough money. He says how he was a real gangster and that everyone else was a joke even though he was a rat his whole life. He bullied locals with law enforcement backing


there is alot of reasons to hate ron previte


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I replied to you up above, GR.


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I replied to you up above, GR.


thanks for the reply pizza your info is great smile



pizza why did petey chops want to get made i mean the guy would never meet greg because he said he was too scared to get caught but he was apparently making millions and not kicking up and that whole indicnet with robert and greg attacking him was dumb prob shows gregs personality


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