alite said he did not like the way gene was treating the italien mobsters and he said that gene was bullying joe gambino. Alite then said he slapped gene and told him to leave everyone alone and that as a thank you joe gambino gave alite a cruxivx now i think thats bullshit





see gene did not like the siggs neither did john i think that was why he did not like joe gambino gene was slapping joe and alite went over and said get of him and gene turned around and said who the fuck are you your not even made from then on things were tense but alite did not slap gene in the face he would not have made the day alive

gene did not want alite around the mob guys like the wiretap said gene felt uncomfortable being around him gene never liked him contray to alite they never did business alite had nothing to do with gene or john senior or even richie gotti


gene was always pushy though always fighting


alite reminds me of that fag lewis kasman kasman was lets just say fucking around with some of the blacks while in the can randy pizzolo so disgusted slapped kasman in the face and screamed your a disgrace to john gotti. Kasman then paid these lations to beat randy. bonannos wanted lewis dead but jackie the nose and junior saved him. kasman is a disgusting man robbed millions of the gotti even wore a wire when the mother had a stroke the guy deserved to get whacked if only junior and jackie the nose had let that fag get whacked

Nobody in the entire Gotti family has ever earned an honest buck in their lives.

What could Kasman possibly "steal" from any of them?

Thanks for the info GR, and I could just imagine Gene doing the things you describe. Mind u, in every book that mentions Gene ie Al D'Arco & Sammy's they have nothing but good things to say about him. Not surprised he likes to fight, Sammy said he had a "real mean streak"

Look at the prison tapes of gotti...makes me believe a lot of what alite says rather than junior...gotti sr tells his daughter to tell a neghboor she would have her tounge cut out and her 10 year old son would be stuffed in a barrel... He constantly trashed blacks and Jews ...he was def an animal and dominated his family... I personally believe everything alite says except the money... He made alot and had nightclubs ands mansions but not a million a month more like a year

Nobody in the entire Gotti family has ever earned an honest buck in their lives.

What could Kasman possibly "steal" from any of them?

Vinny Gotti wasn't and isn't the sharpest tool in the shead..

Exactly, what the hell do the Gotti prison tapes have to do with Alite. Gotti talked tongue and cheek a lot and racist comments made by italians who grew up in the 50's is very common.
Alite comes across as making himself out to be tougher than he was. He was never an actual boxer. Gimme a break. He also said he beat up Vito Guzzo ??? No way, Guzzo was about 2 inches from being made and Alite would of been dead. Again, he keeps deflecting the fact that he cooperated by bringing up Gotti jr's proffer.
Jr gave a Proffer that resulted in NO arrests while Alite actual took the stand many times and his cooperation did result in arrests.

roach was an H guy, he had many coke guys around..they all played with coke

Big difference between 101st avenue and pleasant avenue.

Of course there was a difference. East Harlem was Ground Zero. And by the seventies, 101st was a much nicer and residential area. But that doesn't change the fact that there were Gotti crew members dealing out of those storefronts. And I find it impossible to believe that he wasn't aware of it and get his cut.

Of course there was a difference. East Harlem was Ground Zero. And by the seventies, 101st was a much nicer and residential area. But that doesn't change the fact that there were Gotti crew members dealing out of those storefronts. And I find it impossible to believe that he wasn't aware of it and that he didn't get his cut.

I just meant the pleasant avenue guys were the major league while 101st were the minors.
Pleasant avenue had the biggest/ heaviest dealers in the city.

No doubt. Like I said, Ground Zero. Especially the Genovese and Lucchese families. Galante came out of the neighborhood, so you had a small Bonanno presence. And you never hear much about the Gambinos in East Harlem but they were there. Tony Baker had his club right by Andy's Colonial, and Braciole inherited that crew before moving it up to the Bronx.

why did braciole move it back to the bronx?

did the colmobos ever have a presence

I think Vinny wanted partnership in the store.When he didn't get it, he came up with this "screwing my wife" bullshit. Only way to retaliate against someone with "Friends".

The neighborhood was turning into a cesspool. They all eventually moved up to the Bronx and Westchester.


Not really, and they've never had a presence in the Bronx or Westchester, either. Although Greg DePalma and Richie Fusco were pretty close. Richie split his time between Brooklyn and Scarsdale, so he hung out wherever Greg was shaking some poor fuck down when he was in town.

from what i hear vinny really did think he baker was fucking his wife if my memory is correct it was not sanctioned either. The guys involved were vinny gotti, richie junior, Angelo Ruggiero Jr. The shooter was this guy who turned out to be a fag he flipped later on robert something he got his button then was ordered to do a hit found a funny story on angelo

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/gamb...ticle-1.1100909


dont know what the feds were doing putting the guy in his cell