Ivy (and I apologize in advance to the moderators for this) - I have always respected your research and your statements. And i still do. But intransigent stubbornness is about as valuable as "Mayor" Bill de Blasio (I know that will not resonate with Utah Brigham, but it's for the New Yorkers on the thread). I understand your reticence to believe anything other than what Agents Levy and Bongorno say, but realize that the people you are writing about are not stagnant robots born out of a hat in upstate New York. We are discussing human beings and mechanical interpretations of life as a flatline until indictments say otherwise is immature and short-sighted.

My point: Why not engage in discussions defined by the thread topic instead of repeatedly insinuating that these threads are a waste of time because 6 years ago..Smith was boss, Young was Underboss and Jeffs was Consigliere. Do you get my point?

So lets all agrea this guy is acting boss then whose the underboss? You got 200 + guys couple states do you put a old timer there to appease the elders if Jackie is healthy like a poster said i m guessing he's probaly up there cause he's a likeable guy and respected. Maybe that guy from ct. That died recently im guessing alot of guys showed up to his funeral and this was probaly top discussion. Dan Marino got 2 yrs parole left so he's not doing shit. Is that guy Zeke dead really old or still on the scence. Think a bk would be smart to put a jersey or Bronx guy to help unify the family. This Collins ave is fucking to much money 2 coronas and 2 shots fireball 37$ took my girl and ran a couple streets back to a cheaper street.

I'm still not totally clear but charts from law enforcement are the best look anyone outside the mob itself is going get regarding the hierarchy of a family, crew, etc.