He's a narcissist. Many people like him because he's serious on the immigration issue and they let many of his childish statements slide. His insults sound a lot like the tweets from psychotic actress Amanda Bynes. I think his stupid comments will catch up with him. In a new poll from yesterday in Iowa, Ben Carson was on top, Carly Fiorina second, and Trump third.
Re: donald trump, is he for real?
[Re: Binnie_Coll]
#855843 08/13/1506:39 PM08/13/1506:39 PM
I see Ben Carson as kind and intelligent gentleman. Like Trump and Fiorina, he's an outsider to politics, so we'll have to see how he's different than the other candidates as the playing field narrows. Just as an example of how things change, at least for me, I liked Kasich, but on a recent interview he gave out weak, vague answers on immigration that was frustrating to listen to. To two biggest reasons why Trump is so popular is that he's strong on immigration and he doesn't give out these "politician-style" answers that sound like Bill Clinton's, "It depends on what the definition of "is" is." People are tired of the bullshit indirect answers. They want someone who's going to fight for them and stand up and tell it like it is.
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[Re: Binnie_Coll]
#855896 08/13/1509:29 PM08/13/1509:29 PM
As of now I'll be voting for Ben Carson (cook would tell you otherwise since I'm a racist). I think Trump is an idiot and I think those so called "polls" are just a made up dream by the media.
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[Re: Binnie_Coll]
#855905 08/13/1510:30 PM08/13/1510:30 PM
As of right now I'm casting my vote for Ben Carson. I look up speech after speech of him on youtube and he blows me away every time. He's SMART. He's not held down by political drama, he's not politically correct, he preaches unity, strength and self reliance. Fuck Obama, THIS guy should have been the first black President. But his color is irrelevant to me. He's simply a man running for President and I'm getting behind him.
Others I'd consider: Fiorina, Rubio, and Kasich. Rand Paul isn't so bad, but he didn't do well in the debate and Chris Christie shut him down.
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[Re: Binnie_Coll]
#855923 08/13/1511:05 PM08/13/1511:05 PM
There's one issue beside immigration where I think he has a point. That's trying to develop a better working relationship with Russia. It seems like everyone else in both parties almost want to go to war with Russia. I'd like to see the U.S., NATO and Russia all working on the same side against the Islamo-Nazis.
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[Re: Faithful1]
#855925 08/13/1511:09 PM08/13/1511:09 PM
There's one issue beside immigration where I think he has a point. That's trying to develop a better working relationship with Russia. It seems like everyone else in both parties almost want to go to war with Russia. I'd like to see the U.S., NATO and Russia all working on the same side against the Islamo-Nazis.
Trump makes a great deal of his money not from real estate deals, but from marketing his "Trump" brand on golf courses, hotels, etc. His "campaign" is about getting his brand in front of millions of people, courtesy of the news media. He figured them out perfectly: they don't know how to deal with 17 candidates and they're too lazy to try to cover individuals. So, he throws them raw meat and they eat it up.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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[Re: Turnbull]
#855933 08/13/1511:48 PM08/13/1511:48 PM
Trump makes a great deal of his money not from real estate deals, but from marketing his "Trump" brand on golf courses, hotels, etc. His "campaign" is about getting his brand in front of millions of people, courtesy of the news media. He figured them out perfectly: they don't know how to deal with 17 candidates and they're too lazy to try to cover individuals. So, he throws them raw meat and they eat it up.
Astute observation. But I still think he'll eventually burn out and fade away. He may talk tough but he's going to make a remark so stupid it'll cost him. The smart ones like Carson, Fiorina, Kasich and Rubio will make further gains.
As for Walker and Bush, I don't know about their records I need to look them up.
There's one issue beside immigration where I think he has a point. That's trying to develop a better working relationship with Russia. It seems like everyone else in both parties almost want to go to war with Russia. I'd like to see the U.S., NATO and Russia all working on the same side against the Islamo-Nazis.
But I still think he'll eventually burn out and fade away. He may talk tough but he's going to make a remark so stupid it'll cost him.
If Trump makes that extra stupid remark he may try to stay in by claiming a disability: He's got Tourette's syndrome. Either that or foot in mouth disease.
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[Re: Binnie_Coll]
#855946 08/14/1512:33 AM08/14/1512:33 AM
I think Trump's, Carson's, and Fiorina's poll numbers show a lot of people are sick of the establishment/political class. I'd vote for any of them over Hillary (though, frankly, the idea of a woman president is ridiculous to me.)
If we are lucky Hillary will be prosecuted, Biden will be the Democratic nominee, and all the libs who made all the fuss about Bush being an idiot will look like hypocrites when they vote for Biden.
Mods should mind their own business and leave poster's profile signatures alone.
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[Re: Binnie_Coll]
#855962 08/14/1506:39 AM08/14/1506:39 AM
On thrump this is why he wont make that pledge not to run on a third party ticket.
The Republican Party has the power to make sure he is not on the ballet on individual states in the primary.
He wants.to be on the ballot in every state. If he is an loses the primary he won't be on a third party ticket.
If they knock him off the ballet in some states. Then he can say he was not treated fairly by the republican part. Then he will run under a third party punishing the Republican Party.
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[Re: Binnie_Coll]
#856017 08/14/1501:23 PM08/14/1501:23 PM
How serious is Trump about the illegal immigration issue?
He's made strong statements about better enforcement of existing laws, but he has and continues to exploit the financial benefits of hiring illegals in several if not most of his businesses.
Do as I say,not as I do?
There's a way that businesses legally circumvent these laws about hiring illegals and I'm certain Trump will hide behind this when/if he gets exposed for employing illegals for the the pennies on the dollar that people LEGALLY here would work for.
I think that illegal immigration will eventually strain the resources of this country in ways that will turn EVERYBODY vehemently against it....but for now calling BS on Trump's words.
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[Re: Binnie_Coll]
#856027 08/14/1502:33 PM08/14/1502:33 PM
trump gets away with a lot from the media, he went bankrupt 3 times, leaving hundreds of people devastated financially, why doesn't the media call him on this?
or as gets posted call him on the hiring of illegals, why is he getting preferential coverage.
" watch what you say around this guy, he's got a big mouth" sam giancana to an outfit soldier about frank Sinatra. [ from the book "my way"
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#856029 08/14/1502:44 PM08/14/1502:44 PM
How serious is Trump about the illegal immigration issue?
He's made strong statements about better enforcement of existing laws, but he has and continues to exploit the financial benefits of hiring illegals in several if not most of his businesses.
Do as I say,not as I do?
There's a way that businesses legally circumvent these laws about hiring illegals and I'm certain Trump will hide behind this when/if he gets exposed for employing illegals for the the pennies on the dollar that people LEGALLY here would work for.
I think that illegal immigration will eventually strain the resources of this country in ways that will turn EVERYBODY vehemently against it....but for now calling BS on Trump's words.
getnets, I remember several days ago when the mass media misreported Trumps words and misrepresented what he said. They tried to make him look as if he completely changed his mind about illegal immigration and began to favor a path to citizenship. I was totally incredulous. I went on the internet and did a search of the video that displayed the full interview in question. Guess what? He did not backtrack. He said *everybody* needs to go back home, and the good ones can return...legally.
That's why he is still riding high in the polls.
"For us, rubbin'out a Mustache was just like makin' way for a new building, like we was in the construction business."
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[Re: getthesenets]
#856036 08/14/1504:01 PM08/14/1504:01 PM
How serious is Trump about the illegal immigration issue?
He's made strong statements about better enforcement of existing laws, but he has and continues to exploit the financial benefits of hiring illegals in several if not most of his businesses.
Do as I say,not as I do?
There's a way that businesses legally circumvent these laws about hiring illegals and I'm certain Trump will hide behind this when/if he gets exposed for employing illegals for the the pennies on the dollar that people LEGALLY here would work for.
I think that illegal immigration will eventually strain the resources of this country in ways that will turn EVERYBODY vehemently against it....but for now calling BS on Trump's words.
Gettthesents no thrump does not hire illegals. He does hire Mexicans but legal Mexicans.
He hires from a source that checks the back grounds of who he hires. So your wrong about that
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[Re: Binnie_Coll]
#856038 08/14/1504:05 PM08/14/1504:05 PM
Recently thrump said this about planned parenthood. He does not want to fund the abortion. But he also said he does not want to defund everything they do.
Republicans hated that because it is a hot bottom issue. But what he said may very well be true.
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[Re: Footreads]
#856049 08/14/1504:48 PM08/14/1504:48 PM
Gettthesents no thrump does not hire illegals. He does hire Mexicans but legal Mexicans.
He hires from a source that checks the backgrounds of who he hires. So your wrong about that
Highly unlikely that undocumented workers aren't working for Trump when you look at some of the businesses that he owns. Just a reality of doing business in 2015.
I'm not limiting this to Mexicans. Trump singled them out but there are undocumented workers from a lot of places.
Like I said earlier, eventually someone will uncover this stuff and Trump will blame the "hiring agency".
In Trump fashion....when asked about it...he told the reporter to "tell me who the illegals who work for me are.....so I can FIRE them"
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[Re: Alfa Romeo]
#856050 08/14/1504:58 PM08/14/1504:58 PM
getnets, I remember several days ago when the mass media misreported Trumps words and misrepresented what he said. They tried to make him look as if he completely changed his mind about illegal immigration and began to favor a path to citizenship. I was totally incredulous. I went on the internet and did a search of the video that displayed the full interview in question. Guess what? He did not backtrack. He said *everybody* needs to go back home, and the good ones can return...legally.
That's why he is still riding high in the polls.
@Alfa,
I found myself looking up Trump's comments in the beginning because I thought "nah, he didn't say THAT in public". He did in fact say some of the earlier stuff*,
Now, you're right and Turnbull is right. Trump is exploiting the media and the media is exploiting the public. At this point people will believe that Trump ACTUALLY said whatever he's reported to have said.
Re: donald trump, is he for real?
[Re: Binnie_Coll]
#856156 08/15/1503:54 PM08/15/1503:54 PM
If anyone here has hired contractors to work on a house or any structure, it's the contractor who is responsible for hiring. Not only that, but the Obama administration has made it illegal and discriminatory to even ask about a person's legal status. A few years ago Meg Whitman ran for governor of California. Because of the law, when she found out that her housekeeper was illegal she had to let her go. She did exactly what she was supposed to do, but a Democratic operative used that against her like she did something wrong or illegal. You can't have it both ways. You can't blame someone for hiring a contractor who uses illegals if you can't even ask about the status of someone you personally hire.
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[Re: Faithful1]
#856390 08/16/1509:39 PM08/16/1509:39 PM
I guess my overall point is that Trump isn't the first nor will he be the last to spout rhetoric that is contrary to his past ACTIONS.
He's just being so transparently full of s*it that it insults my intelligence.
The illegal immigrant issue..and some of his rhetoric about Chinese business practices directly go against his personal interests. When has big business ever NOT benefited from surplus of cheap labor ? In one of the long discussions we had, we talked about how big business(northern industries) benefited from late 19th century/early 20th century European immigrants...and later from mass migration of Blacks from the rural south to the urban northern manufacturing centers.In both instances...they could pay newly arrived(im)migrant a fraction of what the old workforce would accept for the same job. The glut of undocumented workers the past few decades has the same effect...and big business (including the likes of Trump)will exploit this cheaper labor pool.
It's disingenuous for Trump to pander to blue collar America(among other groups)by speaking out against "undocumented people". If it were genuine, then Trump would apply STRINGENT wording in his contracts with these agencies about not hiring ANYBODY without a valid SS #. But of course he doesn't.....and there's no doubt that there are people who work directly for companies that Trump owns who are undocumented. For all his rhetoric about controlling the 2,000 mile US/Mexico border...I'd like to see him control the Trump payroll and not let any illegals slip through THOSE cracks.
Here is a 1991 NYT article about a federal judge ruling against Trump in a case about this topic.
OK...now about the clothing line and more contradictions. It's a licensing deal that has been going on for over 10 years. Now, the company that made the deal had factories or partnerships with factories in foreign countries WAY before they signed Trump and will continue to have them way after Trump is dropped.
but this is HILARIOUS
Again, licensing deal has been going for over 10 years. If there was anything genuine behind some of Trump's rhetoric..we would see specific wording in the licensing deal requiring a certain % of the merchandise to be made in America, earmarking certain amount of money to restore existing American clothing factories,etc,etc,etc But I'd bet money that no such wording exists in the contracts.
So Trump is saying some of these comments, and to the people he's pandering to at the moment ...it sounds great but it's just talk.
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[Re: getthesenets]
#856396 08/16/1510:44 PM08/16/1510:44 PM
Kasich is going to get an endorsement from Robert Bentley, Governor of Alabama, which is huge for him going forward. He needs the support of the southern conservatives and the northern blue collar types for that broad appeal the Republicans need in the upcoming election
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[Re: Binnie_Coll]
#856481 08/17/1504:50 PM08/17/1504:50 PM