Loyalty's also a two way street remember.

Scars got broken down for no reason other than greed.
He got fucked. Where was his loyalty from the family?

If that hadn't happened who knows if he'dve flipped?
So scars flipping isn't all black and white, he's a pussy, etc etc.

I agree with this completely. The same thing with Mchone flipping against Carneglia. He got busted, did not talk but Charles cut him off, labeled him a rat and made it known he was going to kill him. Why would you stay loyal to someone who is doing that to you. Why would you do time for someone who turned their back on you, now Alite is just a piece of shit, but sometimes those who are flipped on deserve it.

You don't know that. We have a couple of members here who did ten year bids. And another guy from Cali who went to trial and beat a life sentence. That's honestly not a call you can make on a board with over a thousand members when you've been here for a week. Read a bit. Use the search feature. Get a feel for the board before jumping in too deep. Just some friendly advice.

Barone's eyebrows took on a life on their own though

Yeah one is running east and one is running west lol

do you think the metropolitans field is still to big?

how about beating balt in 69..one of the greatest pitching staffs in history, winning the series is one thing, only baseball people realize the staff they beat..

four twenty game winners, was that the year?

Great post, Bronx. And now that I think about it, Greg hated Scars, which is all the more reason for me to give Scars' story a little more thought. And I don't have to tell you how I felt about Greg. So thanks for that .

And you have to remember that I'm a Bronx guy first, and my Brooklyn family was centered around Pacific Street in East New York, not Bensonhurst. So thanks for that, too .

I lived in bensonhurst, seen scars hundreds of times in the decades i lived there, like i seen a hundred made guys from that nabe, that guy was very well liked, i was shocked he flipped, he was fighting his own fights his whole life, this notion he was a punk like every other guy who rats is nonsense. gravano was no punk, gas was no punk..barone was no punk..they ratted, bad move, their lives they gave to CN was wasted.. these guys didn't say one day i will flip, kill everyone , rob everyone then flip. i don't believe that. maybe some guys do have a plan, scars attempted suicide.was that his plan to rat/ ? skins did the same.some who did not know him would say he was not a tough guy, well if you knew him , you would say he is very fair, straight shooter, not blood thirsty, the nabe knows of a story, he fought two street guys when he was a captain.they did not know each other, he got the first punch in and that was it, he got banged up, when the guys found out who it was they ran away and went to a guy who was a captain for help, when this guy reaches out to scars , the guy says their with me they didn't know who you were, scars answers, i did not have a sign on that i'm a good fellow, i had many fights ill have more..tell them to not to worry.its over..when i heard that i was surprised..but later thought this guy follows the rules and is not hung up on killing ,which he could have done..i'm sorry he flipped , nobody i know had anything bad to say about him..but nobody from that nabe can openly talk good about him now that he flipped.he would have been a great boss . and whom ever said before he regrets what he did..my opinion i feel the same.

I think the Yanks problem is that they don't want to have a ballooning payroll anymore and they need to let some of these contracts go. Clear it out for Bryce Harper... hopefully.

Mets need a bat (or three), but don't trade one of the young guys for it. Wait until FA next year.

[/quote]but stayed loyal to what gotti sr wanted.could have flipped then.. almost everyone has a breaking point..from me being an outsider, facing life ,just came off a major case , no baill , stopping all your money, then breaking you, for a power play..and who knows what he knew about other factors. the guy broke.seeing him in that show, you can see he made a huge mistake one that could never be fixed..he will suffer with his decision..i say the genius that decided to do that to a guy with so much info should have been taken to task. how many guys walking around that have a tough guy rep, are C.I. s.. probably dozens..

my feelings also.gorge was great for baseball, imagine if the idians would have taken george on board..he was a rocky river ohio guy. history would be different the yanks would still have horace clarke playing second base