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Re: Why doesn't Orena just start ratting on everyone?
[Re: TommyGambino]
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06/26/15 01:33 AM
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The voice of reason. Neo to answer your question after 1 year of any federal conviction you can't cooperate its over. Oreana been in 23 yrs. Like they said maybe he's a old time gangster that took his medicine like alot others. I think just the threat of the death penalty makes all these guys flip fast nowadays. Joel eagerly could have took a deal and Tommy shots them guys are stand up and in front of the death penalty. That's all it is, a threat. They haven't executed a wiseguy in over fifty years. Look at the Basciano farce. They got their guilty verdict, but they were NEVER getting a New York City jury (Federal Case, but the jury pool is still gonna be made up of locals) to give him the needle. Not for those murders. Talk about a waste of Federal Tax Dollars  . It's just a scare tactic to get these guys to flip. Do any NY guys get executed? I honestly have no idea, I know they do out west and down south in the states. Check you're Pm over on the other site mate I would have said the same thing about Massino.....but look what happened.
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Re: Why doesn't Orena just start ratting on everyone?
[Re: NE1020]
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06/26/15 01:39 AM
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If he was lower ranked he probably would have. But no one want's to be infamous within OC, and the rest of the world for that matter, as the second boss to rat.
He's a little late for that. Off the top of my head I can this of multiple bosses who ratted. Casso, Massino, Natale...definitely more than two,and then there's underbosses like gravano and leonetti. Even luciano did some talking at one point. I wonder if a consigleire has ever ratted while in office. That is true. However, no other boss has been called the biggest rat since Massino. Its because he was the official, not acting or underboss. If Orena did choose to flip it would be all of the papers, even if it isn't as a shock like Massino or Gravano its still bad. Btw, didn't that Luciano tactically snitch on himself or was it something else? Apparently he ratted when he was young to avoid a minor prison stretch but in his defence he was only young at the time.
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Re: Why doesn't Orena just start ratting on everyone?
[Re: mulberry]
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06/26/15 01:42 AM
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Wasn't Carmine Sessa the consigliere or was he acting? I believe he was the official consigliere but a poor choice by Carmine.
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Re: Why doesn't Orena just start ratting on everyone?
[Re: Neo]
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06/26/15 02:07 AM
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The voice of reason. Neo to answer your question after 1 year of any federal conviction you can't cooperate its over. Oreana been in 23 yrs. Like they said maybe he's a old time gangster that took his medicine like alot others. I think just the threat of the death penalty makes all these guys flip fast nowadays. Joel eagerly could have took a deal and Tommy shots them guys are stand up and in front of the death penalty. That's all it is, a threat. They haven't executed a wiseguy in over fifty years. Look at the Basciano farce. They got their guilty verdict, but they were NEVER getting a New York City jury (Federal Case, but the jury pool is still gonna be made up of locals) to give him the needle. Not for those murders. Talk about a waste of Federal Tax Dollars . It's just a scare tactic to get these guys to flip. Do any NY guys get executed? I honestly have no idea, I know they do out west and down south in the states. Check you're Pm over on the other site mate I would have said the same thing about Massino.....but look what happened. Vinny's been in prison going on eleven years, and he's never coming home. He'll be lucky if he ever gets out of SuperMax. Massino flipped fifteen minutes after they said the word guilty. I get your point, though. Massino was revered on the old boards. When he flipped the fanboys were brokenhearted. Your point being, you never know. But at this point, it's safe to say that Vinny ain't ever gonna rat.
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