I have no idea there. Some women stick with them until the end and some are quick to run off. I think if he was worried about her he would flipped before trial. Him taking the plea tells me he knew there was no way he would be found not guilty (and the attempted "pay off" in the first trial) so the wife had to have known about it. I guess only he knows what she told him afterwards.

The only way I see joey getting knocked down like that, is supermax for life, or a bullet in the back of his head.

I would not say he was knock down...If there is any truth to him laying low then it's always a possibility. But from what I hear he is the boss and will always be the boss . Now if he would just stay and run the family he is at the top of ....So some old friends can visit him...

The talk of all the old Scarfo guys is overblown a bit I think. One minute Phil Narducci is running the Scarfo crew, then we here Joey Punge is, and they're both beefing each other.

Sounds more like people are guessing what they want to be the truth, as opposed to real life, maybe I'm wrong.

I agree , but you will not have long to wait . It is all going to come to a head soon ,good or bad ...

Agreed, 2 years tops before we have all the info we need on the Scarfo crew. If they truly are active the feds will be all over them, they're all killers.

I don't believe in the least bit that they're very active if at all. The Scarfo days are over and they're never coming back. Honestly, the rackets have shrunk to a shell of what they once were and there isn't enough money in the rackets for all these guys to be eating like kings.

100% right, .... aside from the sportsbook, and pills/heroin that they might be taxing, there is a little to go around, not sure they are in any of the unions that will be building new gallery mall or housing, but several of them guys were in real estate and e passyunk is rising real estate area

From the sportsbook comes loan sharking...dont forget that

Gambling machines all around philly they were making a killing on as well

Nicodemo and some guys made a lot of cash off real estate and rental properties as well

more than you think is being earned...but not for the guys on the outside like Georgie Boy

According to George Anastasia and several IRS/FBI agents, they claim that Scarfo was taking in $20-$30k per month from the AC Bartenders Union alone, plus millions and millions of dollars with Scarf Inc., construction and all the other illegal rackets Philly was into during Nicky's reign. Merlino & company never sniffed that kind of dough, not even in the 1990's. The Ligambi trial certainly painted a picture of a group of guys putting some $$ in their pockets with video poker machines, gambling and loansharking...a FAR cry from what the organization once was.

But still not even close to the Scarfo era. Not even close. Real Estate and rental properties weren't rackets, they were nothing more than a way to wash some illegal cash. I know for a fact that John Stanfa was washing his money through Youngstown, OH businessman Vic Calautti and his group of financiers in Switzerland. The numbers were staggering. Check out this article that has a federal affadavit included: Copy and paste into browser:

https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=32RcAAAAIBAJ&sjid=3FYNAAAAIBAJ&pg=5523,3669785&dq=william+d-elia+and+youngstown&hl=en

oscar your right, uncle joe got busted over fkn degenerate bar machines... when they had the real thing like 2 miles north at sugarhouse... those bar machines suck too

Most of those video poker machines were pioneered by a guy named Pasquale "Patsy" Feruccio and his vending company named Liberty Venfing, known as the mafia's leading expert on video poker machines and a high ranking member of the LaRocca Family in Pittsburgh. Here is a 1993 article on Pat Feruccio of Canton, OH:


A Canton, OH man who has been described by the FBI and Alphonse D'Arco as the Mafia's "specialist" in video poker machines has pleaded guilty to a racketeering charge in U.S. District Court in Cleveland.
Pasquale M. (Pat) Ferruccio, 74, admitted leading a gambling operation that used the video poker machines in Akron, Kent and Ravenna and in Kentucky and DuBois, Pa., between 1978 and 1988.
Ferruccio entered into a plea agreement with prosecutors in U.S. District Court in Cleveland Monday. His trial on a four-count indictment returned by a federal grand jury in 1989 was to begin yesterday.
The agreement says prosecutors and Ferruccio and his lawyer agreed to a 30-month prison sentence and that Ferruccio would be allowed to self-report to prison in January. Ferruccio also has agreed to forfeit $100,000 to the government. Prosecutors will drop three other charges against Ferruccio, including operating an illegal gambling business and interstate travel in aid of such a business.
John B. Gibbons, Ferruccio's lawyer, declined to comment on the plea until Ferruccio is sentenced by Judge John M. Manos after a report by the probation department.
Assistant U.S. Attorney Robert J. Becker, of the Justice Department's Organized Crime Strike Force, declined to comment because of two pending cases stemming from the same indictment.
Ferruccio's son, Rocco, and George McCarty, 73, both of Canton, are charged with participating in an illegal gambling business and are awaiting trial before Manos.
Prosecutors have said in court documents that a former FBI agent would testify at trial that, while the agent was working undercover in Florida, Pasquale Ferruccio was introduced as a "made" member of the Mafia by members and associates of New York's Bonnano Family.
The former FBI agent, Edward Robb, would have testified Ferruccio was introduced "as the Family's specialist in video poker machines" and Ferruccio had Robb travel to Canton to observe Ferruccio's operation in an effort to start a gambling partnership in Florida, the prosecutors said.
"Further evidence demonstrates that Ferruccio admitted he had to seek permission from the Mafia to run the Pennsylvania operation charged in the indictment," the prosecutors said.
The prosecutors also said the Pennsylvania Crime Commission and Angelo A. Lonardo, an admitted member of the Cleveland Mafia, had identified Ferruccio as an inducted member of the LaRocca/Genovese Mafia Family in Pittsburgh.
Statements by the prosecutors, Becker and Stephen H. Jigger, then head of the strike force office in Cleveland, were made in response to a motion Ferruccio filed asking that the charges be dismissed.
"That's what the government has said about him for years," Gibbons said yesterday of Ferruccio's reputed organized crime ties. "They can say what they want to say, but no one has actually proven it. It's not relevant to the case."
The indictment of Pasquale Ferruccio was the result of a 3-year investigation by the Internal Revenue Service and FBI.
The racketeering charge against Pasquale Ferruccio alleged Rocco A. Ferruccio provided the gambling operation with facilities, supplies and personnel through Liberty Vending Co., a Canton company Rocco Ferruccio owned and operated.
Pasquale Ferruccio is the former owner and president of Liberty Vending and has continued to maintain a private office there, according to a statement released by U.S. Attorney Joyce J. George yesterday.
McCarty allegedly managed gambling operations in the Dover and New Philadelphia areas of Ohio and helped repair and transport poker machines.
The machines have been determined to be illegal gambling devices because players insert money and are able to place bets during poker-like video games. Payoffs are made by owners of establishments in which the machines are installed.
Two other defendants, Randal J. Cottrill and Carole A. (Terry) Eschliman pleaded guilty last year before Judge Frank J. Battisti.
Cottrill, 29, of Las Vegas, was sentenced to four months in prison and four months of home arrest after pleading guilty to operating an illegal gambling business and interstate travel in the operation of the gambling business.
Eschliman, 52, of Canton, pleaded guilty to participating in an illegal gambling business and was sentenced to three years of probation.

And you can say that with every family.

Nothing is as big today.

New york used to run entire unions, their influence has waned and their rackets are not what they used to be either.

Just how it goes. But no family from around the "scarfo era" is making as much coin as 20 years ago

Western PA and the LaRocca's made a fortune off those machines and allowed high ranking mafia associate John "Duffy" Conley to run the operation in conjunction with Feruccio:

http://www.post-gazette.com/frontpage/20...es/200602090321

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1129&dat=19950104&id=LgMyAAAAIBAJ&sjid=kW4DAAAAIBAJ&pg=6690,2166778&hl=en

http://lasvegassun.com/news/1997/apr/18/five-with-mob-ties-tried-to-invest-in-casino-indic/

I agree 100%. But Philly's power and influence has nearly bottomed out. I believe they are in much better shape than New England and are probably right behind Detroit & Chicago in regards to viablility. It's NY and everybody else and eventually, NY will fizzle out.

Yeah Philly isn't in great shape overall.

And Detroit seems content with not getting their sons and family involved and having them go legit, which will lead to that dwindling out too.

none of the active families is behind detroit

detroit is behind everyone else...

...if there is still a family in detroit to begin with

No doubt about it...and I agree that in 15-20 years, Detroit may be in serious trouble. However, they are very well run. possibly one of the most well run families in the country going back to that 1930's. Leadership has ALWAYS been stable and consistent and under the radar. I love reading about Philly but they may have been one of the most or the most disorganized group of mobsters from the late 1980's to present day. Angelo Bruno (one of my favorite bosses) was the best boss they ever had IMO. While Scarfo was a huge earner, he was mentally unstable...and that doesn't translate well in the life. Uncle Joe is a great boss as well, he truly brought the family back to respectability while Merlino was away. Joey never was a respectable boss IMO and I don't believe he was very well liked by other families. He was a punk in the 1990's that had no respect for the rules...Merlino's generation of mobsters will certainly sink LCN across the country eventually...it's a matter of time.

LOL...Detroit still operates and have their rackets under tight control...and New England is nowhere near Detroit..especially now. But I'm not getting into an argument with you over it. A guy named Scott Burnstein is the most educated person in the country on Detroit LCN, I think he knows a bit more than you Luankuci.

How long have you had a man crush on Ben Stiller?

Actually there was a Real Estate racket in Philly
Supposedly... I think you're correct in assuming that they own legit real estate to launder money etc (mostly held in wife's name to attempt to protect from
fed seizure), but there is/was a Real Estate rehab/flip racket. See below link if you're interested...

http://citypaper.net/articles/2006-06-29/cb2.shtml

Maybe I'm wrong, but this looks like it was a short lived scheme as opposed to a "racket" but I see your point.

I don't know what the Philly market is like but in the Bay Area $1 million will buy you a fixer-upper in a questionable neighborhood.

almost since yours on Scott Burnstein



anybody from the italian/albanian/chaldean blocks in the townships north of metro detroit knows more than a bit than all the scott burnsteins in the world

scott is a wannabe capeci . . . which is admirable . . . too bad he lives in the wrong city (and in the wrong century) to successfully do that

but if you wanna keep day dreaming about them along with him . . . suit yourself

i honestly envy your naivety

oh and it's not ben stiller

interesting that his face popped up in your mind right away tho

Fair enough...maybe you should be writing books and getting them published since you know more about Detroit than Scott does. I find it amusing how "general posters" insult or shit all over somebody who has had success...but I expect nothing more from guys like you. Enjoy your day sir.

LOL...sure looks like him

Gotta love Marin County

the point is that there are no books worth writing on today's detroit



it goes both ways




I hear wedding bells

congratulations . . . and a great day to you too