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Re: The mafia and the gays [Re: Ted] #886322
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Originally Posted By: Ted
My point was that you can't take a statistic like "10% or 25% of people are gay" and apply it to any subgroup of a population. With that silly logic you can say "1% of the country is Muslim, therefore 1% of Mafia members are Muslim." Which is of course ridiculous.


I'm with Ted on this one. While I'm sure there are more gay people in the world than we might think, and probably a decent amount of in the closet wiseguys over the years, I don't think it works like that.

Re: The mafia and the gays [Re: Scorsese] #886353
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The point I'm making is that I believe the percentage of mafia members that are gay are the same percentage as with the rest of society. I don't believe that joining a crime family absolves you of your biology. We can argue the number all we want to. If 5% of the country is gay, or world, then 5% of the mafia is gay.


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Re: The mafia and the gays [Re: Ted] #886354
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Originally Posted By: Ted
My point was that you can't take a statistic like "10% or 25% of people are gay" and apply it to any subgroup of a population. With that silly logic you can say "1% of the country is Muslim, therefore 1% of Mafia members are Muslim." Which is of course ridiculous.


I can't? Why not? I said all along it's an assumption. BTW, religion is a choice, so already you're comparing apples to oranges.


"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
Re: The mafia and the gays [Re: Scorsese] #886453
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And it's also a choice to join the Mafia. I think homosexuals criminals, like any homosexual, tend to avoid anti-homosexual organizations.


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Re: The mafia and the gays [Re: Ted] #886456
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Originally Posted By: Ted
And it's also a choice to join the Mafia. I think homosexuals criminals, like any homosexual, tend to avoid anti-homosexual organizations.


I would agree.

And where did this 5% of the population being gay come from, much less 25%? Thin air? 25% of the mob is gay? Lol. Even 5% is absurd.

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Re: The mafia and the gays [Re: Ted] #886458
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Originally Posted By: Ted
And it's also a choice to join the Mafia. I think homosexuals criminals, like any homosexual, tend to avoid anti-homosexual organizations.


How naive. After all of the family values Republicans that have been outed in the past decade, you should know better. Many gay people in denial join masculine organizations to bury their secret, or in some cases to convince themselves they're not gay.


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Re: The mafia and the gays [Re: IvyLeague] #886459
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: Ted
And it's also a choice to join the Mafia. I think homosexuals criminals, like any homosexual, tend to avoid anti-homosexual organizations.


I would agree.

And where did this 5% of the population being gay come from, much less 25%? Thin air? 25% of the mob is gay? Lol. Even 5% is absurd.


Absurd? How could you possibly know? Oh, that's right. Anyone that acts tough and joins a masculine organization could never be gay.


"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
Re: The mafia and the gays [Re: OakAsFan] #886466
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Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
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Originally Posted By: Ted
And it's also a choice to join the Mafia. I think homosexuals criminals, like any homosexual, tend to avoid anti-homosexual organizations.


I would agree.

And where did this 5% of the population being gay come from, much less 25%? Thin air? 25% of the mob is gay? Lol. Even 5% is absurd.


Absurd? How could you possibly know? Oh, that's right. Anyone that acts tough and joins a masculine organization could never be gay.


It's already been explained to you. Are you just slow or what? Even in the general population the percentage of people who are gay is a few % at most. Not 5% and certainly not 25%. If it's a few % in the general population it's going to be even less in a society like the Mafia. It doesn't mean there have never been gay mobsters but they're few and far between.


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Re: The mafia and the gays [Re: OakAsFan] #886515
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Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: Ted
And it's also a choice to join the Mafia. I think homosexuals criminals, like any homosexual, tend to avoid anti-homosexual organizations.


I would agree.

And where did this 5% of the population being gay come from, much less 25%? Thin air? 25% of the mob is gay? Lol. Even 5% is absurd.


Absurd? How could you possibly know? Oh, that's right. Anyone that acts tough and joins a masculine organization could never be gay.

So your saying the Democratic Party and Republican Party have an equal amount of homsexuals?


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Re: The mafia and the gays [Re: Scorsese] #886517
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Guys, give up arguing with OakAsFan. You can't win an argument with someone who just makes stuff up whenever he feels like it. There are rock collections that can put up more facts than he does.

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