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Re: Who is the powerhouse guy in nj (any family)
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05/23/15 02:40 AM
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The most powerful NJ faction was the Genovese and the Lucchese The most powerful Genovese capo was Tino Fiumara that until he died in 2010 controlled all the NJ faction and is unknown who is now controlling the entire faction. For the Luccheses is Ralph Perna In the other families there single crews without a real faction boss and the colombo had few made men in NJ. http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/p/current-leadership-of-five-families.htmlIn the five familiesnyc site,are listed as NJ faction's bosses: Gambino New Jersey Faction Boss: Nicholas "Nicky Mita" Mitarotonda Bonanno New Jersey Faction Boss: Joseph Sammartino Sr. Thomas Petrizzo -is a colombo capo who controlled contracting company in Middlesex, New Jersey.
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Re: Who is the powerhouse guy in nj (any family)
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05/23/15 04:20 AM
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TommyGambino
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The most powerful NJ faction was the Genovese and the Lucchese The most powerful Genovese capo was Tino Fiumara that until he died in 2010 controlled all the NJ faction and is unknown who is now controlling the entire faction. For the Luccheses is Ralph Perna In the other families there single crews without a real faction boss and the colombo had few made men in NJ. http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/p/current-leadership-of-five-families.htmlIn the five familiesnyc site,are listed as NJ faction's bosses: Gambino New Jersey Faction Boss: Nicholas "Nicky Mita" Mitarotonda Bonanno New Jersey Faction Boss: Joseph Sammartino Sr. Thomas Petrizzo -is a colombo capo who controlled contracting company in Middlesex, New Jersey. Gambino's have 2 crews in jersey, Mitarotonda & Sisca are the captains, Sisca is the 'faction boss' not Mitarotonda.
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Re: Who is the powerhouse guy in nj (any family)
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05/24/15 09:28 PM
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Tommy or anyone that knows how powerful would you say Mitarotono or Sisca are as Gambino guys? Jw like in relation to the Genovese or Lucchese guys who I would venture are 1 and 2 in power in the Garden state..since Bobby Cabert passed I haven't heard much of the Gambinos doing in NJ...but im sure some more knowledgeable posters can fill me in on this
I wonder if either of these two Gambino crews have joint ventures with Scoops crew seeing as Licata was present at that sit down between Philly fam leaders and higher ups the Gambinos..Anyone have any insight? Thanks fellas
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Re: Who is the powerhouse guy in nj (any family)
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05/24/15 10:14 PM
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since Bobb6 Cabert passed I haven't heard much of the Gambinos doing in NJ...but im sure some more knowledgeable posters can fill me in on this Cabert's been dead for years. Besides, there's more to Jersey than just North Jersey and Belleville. You've never heard of Cherry Hill, or the Gambinos? (not the Mafia family, the actual brothers ).
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Re: Who is the powerhouse guy in nj (any family)
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05/25/15 10:31 AM
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Bisaccia died in 2008 but he and his entire crew was sentenced in the 1993 For the Cherry Hills Gambinos take a lot on this http://www.oocities.org/OrganizedCrimeSyndicates_NJ/Gambino_NJ.htmlIt's outdated, but gives you the names of the Gambino brothers Rosario Gambino b.1942 was sentenced to 25 years in prison in 1984 for drug trafficking, he was released after 22 years in 2006 and was extradited to Italy but returned free in 2014.While in prison Gambino remained in good contact with the Los Angeles crime family members Jimmy Caci, Kenny Gallo, and his own son Tommaso,that is believed was the boss of what remains of the LA Family. Is unknow if Rosario is retired or not. Joseph take agreed to return to Manhattan to face Federal narcotics trafficking, murder and racketeering charges, including jury tampering, illegal gambling and loan sharking.After prosecutors recommended 15-year sentences without parole, the men agreed to plead guilty, died in 1994. John Gambino b.1940 was the most powerful of the brothers;was the capo of the sicilian faction of the family agreed to a 15 years without parole in 1993.In prison Gambino survived a stroke, heart attacks, and open-heart surgery. Sitting in a wheelchair, he was released in October 2005, but was later arrested to face an extradition request by Italy.He was released on bail. In September 2006, he was freed when a federal judge overruled a decision that would have extradited him to Italy to face drug charges. The judge ruled that Gambino already served a 15-year sentence in the US for drug trafficking and murder and can't be tried again for the same charges in Italy. According to court papers filed in Brooklyn Federal Court, John Gambino was one of a three-man panel that ran the Gambino family, jointly with Daniel Marino and Bartolomeo "Bobby" Vernace after Operation Old Bridge in February 2008 decapitated the leadership. They oversaw a slimmed-down criminal gang of 200 made men active in drug trafficking, extortion and loansharking, according to the FBI.He currently serves as a high-ranking member of the family beneath boss Domenico Cefalu. His nephew Frank Cali is a rising star in the Gambino family.
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Re: Who is the powerhouse guy in nj (any family)
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05/25/15 11:48 AM
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haha yea PB I have heard of them good point, I just thought that recently those guys were pretty old, and I thought they moved outta NJ? They ARE old, John isn't in the best of health, and a lot of guys do pack it in at their age. But they're as tight as you can get with the guy who's steering that ship, and that's all I'm going to post about it.
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Re: Who is the powerhouse guy in nj (any family)
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05/26/15 08:04 AM
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Recent pic of rosario http://www.metropolisweb.it/Notizie/Nazi...ito_italia.aspxI wonder what effect Nicky Skins had on Mitochondria and Sisca , I don't recall them being at LaGriglia meeting, I know Skins answered to Little Nicky Genovese NJ situation is most interesting to me, from what I gather Borelli or Barbato seem to be the biggest players in NJ for the westside - I would assume Ninny has a lot of the bookmaking action in Toms River area as well.. it goes without saying that many of the hi up players that are NYC based have tons of activity going in Jersey - I recall a knowledgable poster here last year claiming that QD had a ton of influence / control of garbage in North Jersey and parts of PA
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Re: Who is the powerhouse guy in nj (any family)
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05/26/15 10:59 AM
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Genovese NJ situation is most interesting to me, from what I gather Borelli or Barbato seem to be the biggest players in NJ for the westside - I would assume Ninny has a lot of the bookmaking action in Toms River area as well. Johnny Barbato's shot. Ninni will never retire. Ever. Some guys do, some guys don't. He won't. The DeVita crew is strong in Tom's River, but they're an interesting case. I've heard that he was kinda handcuffed from making more Sicilian-born members into that crew (which he'd LOVE to do). The Genovese is the most homegrown family, and it works for them. Just look at the charts and it tells you all you need to know. Most of their members are born here. Vince, in particular, had a thing about keeping things local. He obviously picked that up from Benny, and he obviously passed it on to the next generation. Now, there are certainly exceptions (DeVito, Barney, et al.). But for the most part, they're homegrown, like the 1990's Yankees. And the most powerful, like the 1990's Yankees . I recall a knowledgable poster here last year claiming that QD had a ton of influence / control of garbage in North Jersey and parts of PA Dom's kinda shot, too. But he was still semi-active through Danny Pagano. For the past few years, Danny was sitting in for Dom at Dom's old spots in the Bronx constantly, including the place at the end of the six train by Pelham Bay Park. That was Dom's headquarters, Dom was mostly homebound, and Danny wasn't making that drive every day from the Jersey/Rockland border for nothing. It speaks volumes as to who the new conduit between Jersey and New York was (kinda like Prisco's old position). But Danny just copped out to three years. The guy running Streaky's old crew is as heavy as any Westside guy in Jersey today. And you can't really count the other Danny because he's also semi-retired and a former acting boss.
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Re: Who is the powerhouse guy in nj (any family)
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05/26/15 11:10 AM
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Yeah south jersey has been the expansion area i suppose
I'm not trying to downplay Scoops as he is a betting powerhouse but i wouldn't be surprised if today he just has his book of customers and gets his nice cut. Basically not the bank , kind of like a subs. of a major betting org . Plus they have all those machines The 2004 New Jersey OC report described Philadelphia's North Jersey crew as a "gambling operation." I would be surprised if it was anything more than that. At least on any substantial level. The guy running Streaky's old crew is as heavy as any Westside guy in Jersey today. And you can't really count the other Danny because he's also semi-retired and a former acting boss. Though we haven't seen any official word on it yet, I remember Skinny saying that crew was divided up between Silvio DeVita and Dominick Cirillo. Does that match up with what you've heard, PB, or it is something different?
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Re: Who is the powerhouse guy in nj (any family)
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05/26/15 11:34 AM
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whats matthew madonna up to? hes an interesting character. A lot, apparently, as he was indicted in major Lucchese busts in 2007 and 2009, as well as reported to be acting/street boss last year. But he is NY based.
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Re: Who is the powerhouse guy in nj (any family)
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05/26/15 11:40 AM
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whats matthew madonna up to? hes an interesting character. A lot, apparently, as he was indicted in major Lucchese busts in 2007 and 2009, as well as reported to be acting/street boss last year. But he is NY based. No, I mean after that. I know his lawyers keep delaying the trial but its been like 8 years lol
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Re: Who is the powerhouse guy in nj (any family)
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05/26/15 11:54 AM
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Silvio Devita has his own crew and it operates in both Newark area and Toms River area (where Devita has a GORGEOUS waterfront home). I know exactly the where and whats of Silvio DeVita, Dante. What I was trying to say is that he'd love to bring some Sicilian-born members into his crew. And I heard from an unimpeachable source that he was given an emphatic NO by New York. And New York still Lords over New Jersey. And when I say, New York, I mean the New York factions. Because you obviously have New York faction guys who live in Jersey. I'm not trying to get into a geographical pissing contest with you, Dante. You're a good kid. I'm just telling you what's what. Sil wanted more zips, New York said NO. And that's that.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Who is the powerhouse guy in nj (any family)
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05/26/15 11:57 AM
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like maybe someone on here is in the know, i can use google so thats not that hard. He never leaves home. Neither does Joey Dee for that matter. I saw Joey at his nephew's restaurant about six months ago, and he looked like death THEN. This shit's stressful enough when you're middle-aged. These guys are almost 80.
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Re: Who is the powerhouse guy in nj (any family)
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05/26/15 12:02 PM
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Though we haven't seen any official word on it yet, I remember Skinny saying that crew was divided up between Silvio DeVita and Dominick Cirillo. Does that match up with what you've heard, PB, or it is something different? That's about right, Ivy. But like I said, Danny Pagano had basically become Dom's physical presence on the street. And now that Danny's away, someone else from the Bronx is running that portion of that crew, and DeVita is obviously running the other portion.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Who is the powerhouse guy in nj (any family)
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05/26/15 12:32 PM
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To clarify, when we're talking about QD's old crew, we're not talking about 116th/Buckaloo crew- QD had his own crew that was entirely separate?
I always assume because QD is a BX guy he is part of the 116th, but I'm guessing there are probably a number of active Genovese BX crews
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Re: Who is the powerhouse guy in nj (any family)
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05/26/15 12:50 PM
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To clarify, when we're talking about QD's old crew, we're not talking about 116th/Buckaloo crew- QD had his own crew that was entirely separate? Different crew and entirely different succession altogether. I always assume because QD is a BX guy he is part of the 116th He grew up in East Harlem, a couple of blocks away from my Pop. They're the exact same age. Dom is like three or four months older. Anyway, he started out there. But he made the jump to the Bronx before most of the other guys who came out of that area. I'm guessing there are probably a number of active Genovese BX crews That would be correct. But only a couple of the skippers actually still live here. The guy in Locust Point being the heaviest.
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