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Re: Who is the powerhouse guy in nj (any family) [Re: Stripes] #843560
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Are these zips that were here already or is he bringing them from the old country himself? I assume these guys are Jersey based?

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does the decalvacante family have any kinda strength in their backyard?

or is north jersey that big where the rackets can be split 6 ways

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Originally Posted By: baldo
Are these zips that were here already or is he bringing them from the old country himself?

You can't just import them like anchovies lol.

But seriously, it's all moot anyway. They're not letting him make them wink.


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There are 7 families that operate in New Jersey- The Decavalcantes are big in Elizabeth, Toms River, and Newark.

Re: Who is the powerhouse guy in nj (any family) [Re: Stripes] #843568
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so the gambino brothers dont have a compound like the persico have in upstate ny. does in other family have some shit like that. figured there has to be some lowkey guy who owns a shit load of rentals down the shore. is that a racket?

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rent beach houses dont pay tax.

Re: Who is the powerhouse guy in nj (any family) [Re: pizzaboy] #843584
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: baldo
Are these zips that were here already or is he bringing them from the old country himself?

You can't just import them like anchovies lol.

But seriously, it's all moot anyway. They're not letting him make them wink.


lol

It's strange how people still think you can import Sicilians that easily, it's not like these guys are Joe Bonanno or Carlo Gambino.

You're right about the Westside, they don't fool with zips. Bet Devita wishes he was under the Gambino's, they'd have given him carte blanche

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BTW is Devita still active? he's got to be pushing 90?

Re: Who is the powerhouse guy in nj (any family) [Re: TommyGambino] #843587
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Originally Posted By: TommyGambino
You're right about the Westside, they don't fool with zips. Bet Devita wishes he was under the Gambino's, they'd have given him carte blanche

Ding, ding, ding. And I was praying that no one would ask me why. It's because it's so obvious (and you'll understand this, Tommy).

More than half of the Sicilian-born LCN types in Jersey and Staten Island are related to the Gambinos (The Mafia family and the ACTUAL family). Hell, maybe MORE than half. There's no way in Hell the Westside is making guys who are second and third cousins to Gambino guys in Cherry Hill, Staten Island and Bensonhurst. No fucking way.

And yeah, Sil's way up there anyway. Gotta be close to ninety.


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Re: Who is the powerhouse guy in nj (any family) [Re: pizzaboy] #843589
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
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You're right about the Westside, they don't fool with zips. Bet Devita wishes he was under the Gambino's, they'd have given him carte blanche

Ding, ding, ding. And I was praying that no one would ask me why. It's because it's so obvious (and you'll understand this, Tommy).

More than half of the Sicilian-born LCN types in Jersey and Staten Island are related to the Gambinos (The Mafia family AND the ACTUAL family). Hell, maybe MORE than half. There's no way in Hell the Westside is making guys who are second and third cousins to Gambino guys in Cherry Hill, Staten Island and Bensonhurst. No fucking way.

And yeah, Sil's way up there anyway. Gotta be ninety.


So true, I mentioned it earlier in this thread, it's scary how many Sicilian born relatives the Gambino's have, you've got to wonder how many have been made since the Sicilians took the reigns, the safe bet would be a shit load.

PB, you not been on the other site for a while, reply to my PM you prick wink

Re: Who is the powerhouse guy in nj (any family) [Re: TommyGambino] #843592
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Originally Posted By: TommyGambino
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Originally Posted By: baldo
Are these zips that were here already or is he bringing them from the old country himself?

You can't just import them like anchovies lol.

But seriously, it's all moot anyway. They're not letting him make them wink.


lol


It's strange how people still think you can import Sicilians that easily, it's not like these guys are Joe Bonanno or Carlo Gambino.

You're right about the Westside, they don't fool with zips. Bet Devita wishes he was under the Gambino's, they'd have given him carte blanche


Tommy, I never said anything about him bringing them over easily. It's a serious question given the fact that people talk about the talent pool drying up constantly yet Devito has a ton of zips just hanging around NJ that he can't get made.

Given that I live in NJ and both my parents are off the boat, I'm surprised there are that many (I'm assuming) young zips around that a Genovese capo wants to make. From what I know, it doesn't seem like there are many Italians immigrating to Italy en masse like in the old days. Many young Italians coming over these days are educated professionals. Again, I could be wrong as I don't run in those circles. I was asking PB an honest question as he is probably the most knowledgeable poster around.

Go through some of my posts on here or RD. I've been around these forums since 1998 and NEVER get into arguments. NEVER. But you're out of line here, Tommy.

Re: Who is the powerhouse guy in nj (any family) [Re: TommyGambino] #843593
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Originally Posted By: TommyGambino
PB, you not been on the other site for a while, reply to my PM you prick wink

I've been too busy with my father, Tommy. Plus, the stress is getting to me, too. I'm dealing with a minor health issue of my own right now. It's all heart-stress related, so the last thing I need in my life right now is arguing with some kids about people and an era that existed before they were born.

Plus, there's that ONE SCUMBAG who refuses to go away. No way I let him give me a heart attack. I'll lay you three to five that he's dead of an overdose before I have a heart attack.

Anyway, what pm? Here or there? I honestly don't see it. Resend it and I'll get back to you no later than tomorrow. I promise.


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Originally Posted By: baldo
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Are these zips that were here already or is he bringing them from the old country himself?

You can't just import them like anchovies lol.

But seriously, it's all moot anyway. They're not letting him make them wink.


lol


It's strange how people still think you can import Sicilians that easily, it's not like these guys are Joe Bonanno or Carlo Gambino.

You're right about the Westside, they don't fool with zips. Bet Devita wishes he was under the Gambino's, they'd have given him carte blanche


Tommy, I never said anything about him bringing them over easily. It's a serious question given the fact that people talk about the talent pool drying up constantly yet Devito has a ton of zips just hanging around NJ that he can't get made.

Given that I live in NJ and both my parents are off the boat, I'm surprised there are that many (I'm assuming) young zips around that a Genovese capo wants to make. From what I know, it doesn't seem like there are many Italians immigrating to Italy en masse like in the old days. Many young Italians coming over these days are educated professionals. Again, I could be wrong as I don't run in those circles. I was asking PB an honest question as he is probably the most knowledgeable poster around.

Go through some of my posts on here or RD. I've been around these forums since 1998 and NEVER get into arguments. NEVER. But you're out of line here, Tommy.





Sorry if I offended you Baldo, that wasn't my intention & my post wasn't directly taking a shot at you, it's more to do with the thousand posts I've seen on here to do with LCN bringing zips over, you've always been a good poster from the day I signed up here and I am out of line, forgive me I've been on the beer all day lol You probably know more about LCN then me, I've only been interested a few years and am a thousand miles away.

I could be wrong but I think the zips around Devita are distant relatives of his.

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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
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PB, you not been on the other site for a while, reply to my PM you prick wink

I've been too busy with my father, Tommy. Plus, the stress is getting to me, too. I'm dealing with a minor health issue of my own right now. It's all heart-stress related, so the last thing I need in my life right now is arguing with some kids about people and an era that existed before they were born.

Plus, there's that ONE SCUMBAG who refuses to go away. No way I let him give me a heart attack. I'll lay you three to five that he's dead of an overdose before I have a heart attack.

Anyway, what pm? Here or there? I honestly don't see it. Resend it and I'll get back to you no later than tomorrow. I promise.



On the other site I think mate, think it was purple Gang related, you're father etc. I'll resend it tomorrow it's late here, hope you & yours are well. Isn't DN a heroin addict?

Re: Who is the powerhouse guy in nj (any family) [Re: baldo] #843598
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Originally Posted By: baldo
Tommy, I never said anything about him bringing them over easily. It's a serious question given the fact that people talk about the talent pool drying up constantly yet Devito has a ton of zips just hanging around NJ that he can't get made.

I was asking PB an honest question.

It's because they're all too close to the Gambinos in some way, shape or form. Simple as that, Baldo.

You and Tommy are both good guys and quality posters. Play nice wink.


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Thanks, PB. And thanks, Tommy...I guess took your post the wrong way. Maybe I'm getting ornery in my old age...about to turn the big 4-0 in July! panic

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Originally Posted By: baldo
Thanks, PB. And thanks, Tommy...I guess took your post the wrong way. Maybe I'm getting ornery in my old age...about to turn the big 4-0 in July! panic


At least you're not 55, like PB wink I'm loving being 24 lol

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Originally Posted By: TommyGambino
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Thanks, PB. And thanks, Tommy...I guess took your post the wrong way. Maybe I'm getting ornery in my old age...about to turn the big 4-0 in July! panic


At least you're not 55, like PB wink I'm loving being 24 lol

Now you can both go fuck yourselves lol.


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This whole zip thing has been terribly exaggerated. The fact of the matter is this, italians rarely come to this country any more, never mind some sicilians who want to get into and learn american rackets that no longer work.
Why would some sicilian want to come here and not only take bets but learn all about american sports? You could argue there are some that visit and get involved with drugs, im not disputing that, what i am disputing is the myth that they may take over.

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Originally Posted By: Belmont
This whole zip thing has been terribly exaggerated. The fact of the matter is this, italians rarely come to this country any more, never mind some sicilians who want to get into and learn american rackets that no longer work.
Why would some sicilian want to come here and not only take bets but learn all about american sports? You could argue there are some that visit and get involved with drugs, im not disputing that, what i am disputing is the myth that they may take over.

That's absolutely correct.

I say it all the time. Even if the immigration laws still favored Western Europeans (and they clearly don't), who says they want to come here anyway?

This isn't 1900 where America is THAT much better off than Europe. If you're going to stay poor anyway, why uproot your life and leave a beautiful country?

I was merely pointing out that I know for an absolute fact that Sil was told not to propose any of the Sicilians that are here ALREADY. Because they're all too close to the Gambinos.


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PB's right. It's the ones that have been here 30 years that were talking about, they have kids, nephews, cousins that are born into it. Bel & Baldo are right about modern day zips for sure.

Belmont, what European would want to learn American sports, after all American Football & Baseball are only really practised in America for a reason, they're pure shite wink Real sports are played in Europe, fact.

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Wonder if the Bayonne/Jersey City Bonanno crew still pulls any weight...

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2010/10/mobster_with_jersey_city_ties.html

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Originally Posted By: Flushing
Wonder if the Bayonne/Jersey City Bonanno crew still pulls any weight...

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2010/10/mobster_with_jersey_city_ties.html


I think Joe Saunders absorbed that crew.

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Wonder if the Bayonne/Jersey City Bonanno crew still pulls any weight...

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2010/10/mobster_with_jersey_city_ties.html


I think Joe Saunders absorbed that crew.


Saunders Jr. is based in Brooklyn. He is now in charge of the Bonanno's Bayonne crew? Even with Sammartino getting out of prison? I don't dispute this I'm just asking. Seems strange to have a Brooklyn capo running the Bayonne/Jersey City Bonanno's.

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Originally Posted By: Flushing
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Wonder if the Bayonne/Jersey City Bonanno crew still pulls any weight...

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2010/10/mobster_with_jersey_city_ties.html


I think Joe Saunders absorbed that crew.


Saunders Jr. is based in Brooklyn. He is now in charge of the Bonanno's Bayonne crew? Even with Sammartino getting out of prison? I don't dispute this I'm just asking. Seems strange to have a Brooklyn capo running the Bayonne/Jersey City Bonanno's.


That was my original thought Flushing, but Joe C is one of the top capo's now and his influence is growing, if I remember correctly two of the soldiers under Sammaratino were under Saunders as of 2009, just because he's from Brooklyn doesn't mean he won't have interests in Jersey, same with Nicky Corrozzo, Skins answered to him so who knows, the Bonanno NJ crew was very slim under Sammaratino. It's similar to Sisca, he's the top guy in Jersey but also a top guy in the Bronx with the Gambino's.

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Originally Posted By: TommyGambino
It's similar to Sisca, he's the top guy in Jersey but also a top guy in the Bronx with the Gambino's.

That's a fair analogy. Funzi had been acting for Louie for awhile. What's funny is, Louie was in a similar situation for years himself. He got off in East Harlem, expanded into the Bronx and Westchester, and ended up with part of North Jersey, too. Hell, he even had Connecticut.

When Gotti "gave" Connecticut to Tommy Gambino in was just a gesture. In name only. Braciole was the real strength there the entire time Tommy was officially the skipper (late '80s and early '90s), right up until Tony Megale came home and made skipper himself.


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Wikipedia and stuff will lead you to believe that everybody in jersey kinda answered to Tino Fiumara when he was alive, especially after the Chin passed away. Was that true? Or just internet fodder?

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I won't pretend to know but from what I read there wasn't one overall Jersey skipper for the Genovese.

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Great stuff guys .
Man the Gambino's better watch there asses handing out power to there zip's ,they sure do multiply like I posted at the beginning of the thread.

The west side being at the top" of there game" as usual are watching out for the bottom line.

I am very curious if some of these guys (zips)or close to of family members are saying f--- it and trying to branch out to get a button from other families and will gain power no matter what.


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Good question, Serp. Is there actually some sort of rivalry between zips and home grown guys?

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