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Re: Was John Gotti afraid of the Chin
[Re: IvyLeague]
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04/27/15 02:10 PM
04/27/15 02:10 PM
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The adolescent obsession with "Who's tougher?" in this thread aside, it's not hard to believe Mouw's account of what happened when they warned Gotti about the plot against his life. I imagine Gotti's kneejerk reaction was to go into his "What, me worry? I'm untouchable" character. But when they told him the threat was from the West Side, as Mouw said, "that meant something to him." For a moment, Gotti's reaction revealed real concern before responding that he had "no problems" with Chin. As for Gigante, though it would have been much harder and more unlikely to happen in the Genovese family, no doubt he saw Gotti's move as a threat to all sitting bosses. Not to mention the business deals he had going with Castellano before this upstart capo from Queens decided to take over without Commission approval. Ironically, Chin tried to take out a sitting boss (Costello) decades before for Genovese. How much Commission approval they had or didn't have aside, it shows how these guys are all about the rules when it benefits them. Once that changes, the rules can go out the window fairly quickly. What a joke. You have Gigante in the life and people complain. And then you have his grandson get out of that life and into the legit life and people still complain. You can't win. Well, as someone on another thread correctly pointed out, the freight company he's president of was likely acquired through mob influence, i.e. union connections, intimidation, etc. Would he be where he is now without how his grandfather was? I'm not so sure. Well what do you expect him to do then? Just because he has family involved means he can't be legitimate? How else would you expect the kids or grandkids of these guys to get out of that? Following your logic everyone related to these guys are illegitimate.
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Re: Was John Gotti afraid of the Chin
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04/27/15 05:16 PM
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Well, as someone on another thread correctly pointed out, the freight company he's president of was likely acquired through mob influence, i.e. union connections, intimidation, etc. Would he be where he is now without how his grandfather was? I'm not so sure. Yeah, but the line has to be drawn somewhere, Ivy. I mean, why did the Kennedys get to go from bootleggers to a political fucking dynasty in a single generation? They didn't have doors opened for them with "dirty" money? And I realize that you loathe the Kennedys for their politics. Maybe I'm being a little too cute by using them as the example. But like I said, they did it in a single generation. This Gigante kid grew up completely sheltered from the life. All of the grandkids did (by all of the brothers). Sure, wiseguy money opened doors for him with the freight company. But so did hooch money open doors for the Kennedys. So if it only takes a single generation for the Irish, three generations isn't enough for the Italians? Hey, the Irish got here first, they secured the civil service jobs and locked up New York City politics. If the Italians had arrived here first and had the benefit of speaking a variation of the English language (as the Irish did), we would have done the same thing. You take care of your own first. I don't give a shit what anyone says. It's human nature and it's okay. But what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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