Anyone see the special interview with Jenner last night? Opinions? One thing I will mention is that he never had an auto accident until he became a woman
I think the media is trying to promote this lifestyle. Shortly a new TV series about this will start.

He's going to look a bit freakish - he'll have the body of a 25 year old AND 80 year old woman! Honestly though, why bother at that age? Attention seeking fame whore..

Why isn't this man in jail after he committed involuntary manslaughter?

Of course it is. That whole LGBT thing is a media invention. So is the "It Gets Better" project. And while the latter is admirable because it's aimed at depressed and confused teenagers, the former is funded by phony Hollywood Lefties who are half-gay themselves and can't deal with it.

I have no problem with gay people. I've lived in New York City for more than half a century. You live here, and you become sensitive to what people who are "different" go through. But it's the media shoving this LGBT crap down our throats that drives me crazy.

Oh, Bruce Jenner is nuts. And that has nothing to do with his sexual preference. He could be married to Cindy Crawford and banging Halle Berry on the side, and I'd still say he's crazy.

Jenner should have the balls to do the right thing before he cuts them off.

They wouldn't know where to house him/her/it.

still, hard to believe that an olympics games champion would change sex. if the media promotes this kind of lifestyle, then we straight people are not being heard at all.

bill Clinton started most of this liberal same-sex thinking by letting gays in the military where they don't belong. back in the 90s.

There was a programme on the other week by Louis Theroux about confused KIDS from about 4up who's parents were putting them forward for a sex change, utterly disgusting.

My father used to work with a telephone company before he retired a few years back and one of his male collegues had a sex change op - Colin to Chloe. He said it just looked like the same guy, hands like shovels, but with long hair and a dress on. All the staff were warned to act as if nothing had happened, any negative comments would result in disciplinary action etc. People can do what they want I suppose, but Trannys/sex change people must understand how utterly ridiculous they usually look and not demand that everyone else entertains their fantasies...you can bet Bruce Jenner will insist on being called Betty and if anyone mentions anything negative they'll be accused of being against the entire LGBT "community". Will he have to return his Mens Decathlon medal?

That's what drives me up a wall. If they're confused at 16, maybe they ARE straight. But the Left will have none of that. To them, confused means they MUST be gay.

You get a kid at that age and you can make him/her whatever the fuck you want. If you need proof, look no further than terrorist groups who hand out AK-47s to ten-year-olds.

No one---but no one---should be coerced into a sexual preference. Middle aged gay men have been preying on these "confused" teenagers (many of them not of legal age yet) for years. They tell them they're "helping them come out of the closet." Bullshit. They're trying to cornhole a 16-year-old boy, plain and fucking simple.

Let them decide for themselves, that's all I'm trying to say.

I cannot imagine why anyone cares if people choose to change gender. They aren't hurting anyone.

It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg......

PB, exactly, what is a kid NOT confused about at that kind of age. Any adult, especially their parents, should definitely not be putting them forward for a sex change..what's the world coming to?

Helen-the example I gave shows just why it does impact on others unfairly. A colleague you worked with for years suddenly comes in dressed as the opposite sex, looking ridiculous and you've just to pretend nothings happened. If he/she feels you aren't playing the game completely, you might lose your job? Its a completely unnatural situation in which others are expected to act naturally. Its like a sick version/twist of the emperors new clothes

I am so bothered by Jenner. He was a hero to us kids. Now the guy is obviously friggin nutso.

I believe the gender confusion starts at a very early age. What I noticed since I've been working around kids all my life is that at the AGE OF 3 is when these kids start to want and do things that are not necessarily acceptable behaviors. They are VERY EASILY INFLUENCED.

They, meaning boys, start wanting to put on lipstick and play in the kitchen and with baby dolls. There is an interest there. Now they are just curious. It's UP TO THE ADULTS to steer them in the right direction. They also need to have MALE role models who show them how to act like men and/or females who do not allow them to be effeminate.

I used to help out at a preschool. When this kid wanted to wear high heels and lipstick I gave him chap stick and bought him some costume fireman boots to wear. He did wear the heels a few times but I did not pay him any mind. I didn't give what he was doing ANY ATTENTION. Then he went back to wearing the boots. This is what adults need to do. Once a kid sees that he/she gets attention for doing these things they do them MORE OFTEN. Parents think it's cute behavior. Look how cute my Joey looks in lipstick and heels I'm gonna take his pic isn't it funny? NO it's not funny it's friggin stupid to do that. This is a very influential age and if you do not do something to stop it they will continue to think IT'S OK BEHAVIOR.

Fergie- If you have an opinion on what your hypothetical coworker did why say anything? I work with people who I think have shitty spouses, are raising their children badly, are overweight and look ridiculous, etc. But I don't say a word. Its not my life, so its not my business.

I'll give you a similar example - some people are flat out racists. They may work in an office with black people. Can they say racist things to their black coworkers and not get in trouble?

And if a kid is confused about sexuality or gender identification, the issue is there. Most straight kids don't go through a period where they're confused. They just like the opposite sex period, without ambiguity from as soon as they begin to have sexual feelings. Thinking you can make a kid gay is as silly as those religious nuts that think they can pray them straight.


I look down on jenner more for his life with the vile kardashians than a sex change

Well if the guy in a dress starts demanding to use the female toilets, do the females in the office have any right to be uncomfortable? Or if he keeps using the male toilets, do the guys have a right to be a bit confused when he's doing his make up opposite the urinal? Should you be disciplined if you are confused with the situation?

Its not that people might overtly or deliberately say something offensive, but the lack of understanding around how to treat this issue may well lead to others being treated unfairly. Theres an expectation that everyone shouldn't even consider being shocked/surprised. Do you seriously think the vast majority of people would have no reaction whatsoever if a tranny turned up the their place of work who used to be called Bob and now said he was Brenda? Its an OBVIOUS change which people will naturally react to, its not comparable to racism -already though, and you're proving it, I can just see people being accused of that level of hatred if they fail to understand/accept things...

There's no reason anyone who is confused should be disciplined. Confusion would be natural.

Shock and surprise would also be natural reactions. We are humans after all, and gender transformation is a complicated thing.

As far as toilets go, I think that one is pretty simple. genitals would dictate which toilet they use, the same as non trans people. Penis=little boys room,vagina = little girls room.

Helen, when Jenner has his surgery, I challenge you to post here and confirm he doesn't look like a complete freak and you've never even thought it strange that he now has a new first name. If he worked beside you, it wouldn't cross your mind to even comment on it to a co-worker? Would you report your co-worker if they made a negative comment to you about it?

The toilet issue isn't that straight forward, if they are pre-op and dressed as the opposite sex, they might demand to use whatever one they felt appropriate. If that was your company, what would your decision be? Bearing in mind you don't want to be sued...

I would be interested to know the real numbers of gays that actually saw combat. Like to know how many dead and in wheel chairs. There are from Iraq and Afghanistan.

fergie- So what if he looks like a freak? I'm not fucking the guy,lol. I see freaky looking people all the time, and 99% of them aren't trans. Just freaks.

And yes,if one of my coworkers became a trans I would definitely talk about it with other coworkers. Gossiping is human nature. But if I had liked that coworker before they changed I would still like them, and would treat them as kindly as I had before.

As for the toilet thing I don't get all freaked out because I'm a woman. We don't piss out in the open like men, so even if a man wearing a dress and taking hormones uses my ladies room there still is privacy. Stalls with closed doors. You guys using urinals have it different, but no one with a vagina is using a urinal, even if they're a woman transforming into a man.

This guy was married three times. He had 2 kids with each wife that's 6 kids total.

I find it hard to believe he is that weak that he could not shut his mouth about this just for his kids sake.

Foot, why would you like to know how many gays saw combat? Lol!

What about if he had both. Then he could really go fuck himself.

Seemingly he considered the op back in the 80's, but didn't for the sake of his kids. Now he's nearly in his 80's obviously its a great time to go ahead with it and have the tits of a 25 year old porn star and a vagina stronger than a jockeys left hand grip stuck on the body of an old man-Im sure that'll make him happy

To see if they really are gays in the military and if they really did fight and die for our country. I don't believe they were a lot of them.

Lol, there have been gays in the military as long as there has been a military. The Spartans were famous for it. Alexander the great, Lawrence of Arabia......Baron Friedrich Wilhelm Augustus von Steuben- maybe you are not familiar with his name,he served as Inspector General and Major General of the Continental Army during the American Revolutionary War. He is credited with teaching the Continental Army the essentials of military drill and discipline, and helping to guide the United States towards victory against the British. He served as General George Washington’s chief of staff in the final years of the war. He originally served in the Prussian Army, before he was forced to resign because of being homosexual. George didn’t have a problem with this and hired him on to train the troops at Valley Forge. If he hadn’t, we might still be a colony to Great Britain.

Even Churchill famously said "Don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy, and the lash."

yes, I agree with you completely, let the kids alone.

I cant help having a caricature picture in my mind when I hear about gays fighting in the military. Nothing at all against gay people, but it just sounds funny..

it is funny, and thank bill Clinton for it.

Apparently LGBT will turn into LGBTQ to include "queer" too just in case you're not 100% sure... because nowadays even if you don't even know what the fuck you are, you deserve some extra rights.

Mainly the right to be "offended"...