More bought and paid for than the republicans.

The democrats are anti gun, pro amnesty, and pro raising taxes buddy. You are sleeping if you think it is any other way. Just look at the gun laws of states that have been run by Dems for years. While your at it, looks at the tax and regulatory structure.

The only thing AND I MEAN THE ONLY THING that keeps democrats in check is the system of checks and balances. And in large part because republican congress keeps them in check.


And fuck other countries. If i wanted to live in Australia or Britain I would move.

I am waiting for John McCain to run again.

I keep getting emails for donations from Republicans got one from Marco Rubio today.

My son wanted to movie to Austrailia actual the place just south the Sicily of Australia. The place named after that rat with the pitbull teeth Tasmania.

Just because he fell in love with a girl from their that he met in college.

They allow no guns there. That place is full of more things that can kill you then any other place in the world.

Look at some of the cities that have been run by Democrats forever and see how they have done- Detroit, Chicago, Buffalo, Los Angeles, all in trouble.

Way too soon to say. I'm praying for a moderate ticket that's fair on social issues, yet not willing to give away the store on fiscal issues.


Thanks, Pal. It means a lot. He's in a private room at a very good hospital in Manhattan. We already know that he's being released before the weekend. He's a tough old bugger, so we're very hopeful.


Thanks again, but life's too short. Look at all the crap floating around these sites lately. Everyone beefing with everyone. We all need to behave more civilly, myself included. When I have things on my mind, I can be as nasty as anyone else. And I'm wrong when I do that.

That said, I'll still continue to rebut things about the Bronx and the surrounding areas that I know for a fact are contrary to the truth. But all of that is for the OC section and the other boards. I'll be spending a lot more time in General Discussion here now anyway.

Gun laws and high taxes aren't corporate special interests because they don't help businesses profit. However there are a good deal of democrat campaign contributions come from rich individuals who believe personally in gun control and regulation, and that does have a tendency to swing an election. But the bigger picture is it's pretty messed up that ANY group of special interests can fund a Congressman's career. Like I said Hilary is a great example, she regularly schmoozes with Wall Street to cover her ass when election day is coming, or probably just to buy her and Bill something nice. It's fucked up there isn't more ethical oversight, that you can donate between 1 and a billion dollars, and senators stay in for life.

Good idea. If you wait a few more years you can send a write-in vote after he's laid to rest at Arlington National.

You see, as a middle class taxpayer, I have my own special interests.

First, keep my taxes reasonable. I am not against paying taxes, but I don't like the idea of being milked by the government.

Second, don't tread on my gun rights. I don't live in a ritzy neighborhood with gates and armed security. I don't have that luxury. Home invasions happen in my neighborhood. I don't like the idea of some rich liberal asshole who woulden't know a poor neighborhood if it fell on his head trying to disarm law abiding citizens.

Third, and most importantly, secure the border and reduce legal immigration. As much as the rich libs like to pretend that their precious white collar jobs will never be affected by immigration, that coulden't be father from the truth. Ever heard of h1-b visas?

Now, as I take a look at the issues most important to me, it's not a difficult choice. It's anybody but Hillary for me.

Really good post man. I didn't mean to ignore the interests we all have...I guess my point was, PEOPLE's interests rarely get heard these days. With a 12% Congress approval rating I don't think anyone feels "heard" by their gov't nowadays. The days of town hall meetings where the pols actually listen is dead and gone. The only way to get Congress to listen to the rights you give a shit about is make an organized concerted effort. It shouldn't have to be that way!

What you said about gun rights really resonated with me...my neighborhood is not the ritz by any thing but the sketchiest thing I have to worry about is girl scouts trying to sell me shortbread. I think as long as it's a pain for known felons to get their hands on em with no loopholes we can all be happy.

Tax the shit that makes SENSE. Tax inheritance (again goes back to the idea of American ideals - our leaders should rise because of merit, not birth), tax high income wealth that's stagnant and not being put back in to the economy, tax multinational corps. That's more than enough to cover all our needs and even give back to the middle class if you're in to that. And dems and repubs both make sure the wealth in the end comes out of your and mine pocket. It doesn't make any sense to ask for 25% of a schoolteacher's pay check when they're criminally underpaid. That's what being liberal means ^ fuck the dems and Hilary "I'm so broke" Clinton can only pretend to understand.

Pizzaboy, Best wishes for a speedy recovery for your father. That is always a tough situation to deal with.

Like Michael Corleone said "When I'm dead I'll be really smart."

And please accept my best wishes for your father as well. I'll keep good thoughts by quietly muttering in his honor "Mandlebaum, Mandlebaum..."

if I am correct. then Walmart, and many other global corporations send their money to overseas concerns so they won't be taxed.

im thinking of the cayman islands, where many large corps, have set up accounts to avoid taxes.

can anyone explain to me why this is not illegal? I haven't heard of any politician in Washington explain this situation.

Pizza hope everything is ok with your dad. Hey take comfort in knowing that you actually had a good one. I can't say that.
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You know this is not a political site, but most people on here at least know something that is going on here and in the world.

But most18 yr olds actually know very little. So they can be led to me that is not good.

Ask a tax attorney. Yet the same people who complain would buy from Walmart to say a few pennies.

I agree about the corporations. Many big corporations get away with not paying taxes or paying very little. I am not a tax guy, but my understanding was that the US has a global tax system, so all big corporations should be paying taxes.

I don't like the idea of a big corporations skating taxes, the problem is that the whole anti corporate philosophy is all encompassing. Meaning, it effects small business.

When liberals say, raise the minimum wage to 15 bucks an hour, they are trying to say "fuck these big corporations, they can afford to be milked". The problem is that policy will have a big effect on small business, as small business employs well over half of workers in this country.

And say you write in an exemption on the minimum wage law for small businesses, tell me that wont have a severe adverse impact on small business. I'm sure the employees of small business will have no problem with being paid a lower minimum wage than the employees of large corporations. (:

So basically, as far as the anti corporate sentiment goes, our hands are pretty well tied.

And that in a nutshell, this is one of my problems with reactionary,emotional, liberal philosophy and legislation.

Instead of yelling "raise the minimum wage, fuck the big corporations", lets take a second to consider the consequences any legislation will have on the larger business landscape.

Loopholes are written into tax codes, and businesses smartly exploit every existing one.

Dangerous question, Binnie.

There are polarizing figures in the media that keep us distracted and finger pointing and name calling while these types of questions don't get addressed.

Such as?

I know exactly what you are talking about, if the minimum wage is raised to 15.00 an hour, every eating facility will raise their rates off the board.

the cost will be passed on to the consumer in every way. all the fast food franchises will almost double their prices overnight, and everyone else will follow. it would to my mind be a disaster.

in the case of what Binnie was talking about, the loopholes in Subpart F of the IRS tax code

http://www.irs.gov/irm/part4/irm_04-061-007.html

There used to be a lot of loopholes in the tax code, but Obama largely got rid of them unless they participate in one of his green energy projects.

I don't know if anyone here actually runs a business, but for many businesses the profit margin is slim. Often the first year of any new business operates at a loss, and owners often forgo paying themselves a salary so their employees actually earn more than they do. If a business is successful and it expands, it may open itself up to investors and has to have a board. The investors have to get a return on their investment so the company will continue to stay alive and so the investors don't pull out. In the meantime the company still has to be profitable or else it will go under. Fees, regulations and taxes are all costs that take away profit. When government increases the cost, then it has to make cuts somewhere, and one way to do this is by farming out its customer service and other departments overseas. While doing this may cost some American jobs, it saves other jobs that would happen if the company failed.

There are news channels that do discuss this, such as CNBC and Fox Business. CNN also has business segments that discuss this.

And there are Left-wing Democrats who want to ban corporations from outsourcing, but what they don't tell you is that the federal government outsources too. The Pentagon, for instance, does it. What the left-wing Democrats don't realize is that an outright ban would probably put a lot of those corporations out of business, or they would move overseas and we would get no tax revenue from them at all. It makes much more sense to operate through incentives rather than punishment.

Are you a cpa or a lawyer?



Yup. gotta consider the long term impact of decisions.

I woulden't mind an outright ban on outsourcing. I am sick of talking to someone from India everytime I have a problem with At&t.

I'd say both US parties have consistently shifted to the right and the democrats are definitely centre right and are probably further to the right than most European conservative parties and the Australian liberals (conservatives), at least on many issues. The Dems used to be more or less equal to Canadian conservatives although since they merged with the canadian alliance to become the new tories they've gone batshit crazy and are now something like a Canadian Likud cum rogue petro-state.

Also, even the most right wing party in Europe, Australia or canada supports stronger healthcare than anything Obamacare managed to achieve and which by US standards was revolutionary and got him more accusations of "socialism". even the most right wing party in Europe and Australia and Canada supports paid maternity leave of at least 3 months, something the US still doesn't have and is the only industrialized country in the world that doesn't have it. Even Stephen Harper didn't dare touch universal healthcare, paid maternity leave or gay marriage. And no US democrat supports having a social welfare system that would be anything near what Europe, Australia or Canada have, even when these countries have right wing parties in power. and the level of encroachment religion has over US politics would be regarded as backwards and unacceptable by even the most right wing party in europe, except maybe in italy and spain where they have a lot of catholic fascists.

@IF

I'm neither a CPA nor an attorney.


@F1

I watch c-span and try to read direct sources as much as possible. Nature of the news media ,even business programs and channels,is to place some sort of spin on the coverage of existing laws or possible changes to them.
I don't necessarily disagree with your post and certainly businesses anchor society ,etc, but hasn't the argument you're presenting been used by so called "pro business" proponents for decades now.That Tax breaks, tax loopholes, subsidies, tariffs on foreign made products, bailouts are "really" benefiting the American public in the "long term".

There's also provisions of the Internal Revenue Code meant to counteract the so called loopholes. For instance, there is section 41 of the Internal Revenue Code: "The Credit For Increasing Research Activities." This is a credit meant to incentivise domestic research and development activities. It acts as a tax credit for corporations hiring employees domestically who are performing R&D activity. It basically allows companies to use as a credit the salaries paid to domestic employees performing research and development activities. And the credit can't be claimed if the company is outsourcing. Meaning, they have to hire domestically.

Just showing the flip side. Its rarely as a black and white as many like to think.

Fair and valid point.I'm just saying that powerful interests use their lobbying and influence to get benefits,provisions,loopholes that benefit them. All perfectly legal. I just don't always buy the propaganda that it all benefits the American worker in the long run.

I think slowly but surely American workers are starting to question some of these actions.I mean in some sectors American workers are being outsourced by "foreign workers" who are actually brought HERE to do the work...and all sorts of chicanery . It's about the bottom line, always has been, always will be.."Trickle down economics" or whatever term big business is calling it these days is pretty much a smokescreen.

I think your talking about H1B visas. That's an immigraiton issue, not a tax issue. Alot of skilled workers from India who are trained engineers get paid about 30k a year to work at company's like qualcomm in the United States.

As far as that goes, H1B expansion is strongly supported by the Democratic party. And that's not even touching on executive amnesty. Obama is no friend to the american worker sir.

no, Obama is not a friend of the American worker. he is portrayed as such by the mainstream media, but, he is pro wall street all the way.

and some of his biggest fund raisers were held by his wall street criminal friends. he is a farce.

They all are

Way to whittle down my entire post to the point about H1 workers.

bingo

Millions of dollars are spent to convince us otherwise, though.