I enjoy going there from time to time especially downstairs. I bought a few pieces over the years. Not so much anymore.

I heard biggie was connected or paid up to the genovese

no never been

no that wasn't true. That rumour came from the fbi surveillance of him which was in fact due to other things rather than any connection to lcn.

I think a lot of that was also due to the influence of gangster movies like scarface and goodfellas which are popular amongst rappers. Theres a lot of cool terminology and quotes in those movies.

Michael caruso is a very peculiar case. He ratted on a lot of people and then came back as a hip hop guy. Is he still managing them.
Heres some background for people not familiar.
http://www.villagevoice.com/2000-05-23/news/wu-tang-clan-is-sumthing-ta-fuck-wit/

Got my first Rollie there. Down stairs from the Russians.

Definitely different. Crack has baking soda. Freebase either ether or ammonia. Free base is more potent. It's really semantics. Nothing to argue over.
Is rigatoni the same as spaghetti?

And Nicky Barnes was buying from Italians in the 70s. I believe he ratted one few. The guy that Chazz wrote about in Bronx tale. Fat Gigi I think supplied him. I may be wrong. I wasn't even born yet. But it's what I understand to be true.

Mathew Maddonna from the lucheses was also one of barnes suppliers. I thought freebaseing was just smoking straight up cocaine?

@Scorses are you from queens?

Yes I read that too.

Malandrino have you ever seen crack or coke?

When it is smoked it smells like burnt plastic.

I knew friends that would chop up soap and give it to hookers for blow jobs.

Michael Caruso still manages GFK.

Yes, he does, it's a shock to me they keep him around.

Wu grew up in Staten around mobsters, but they weren't connected. Just petty criminals and drug dealers from park hill and Stapleton.

They knew sons of mobsters in HS and whatnot, just from being in Staten, but they certainly weren't kicking up to Gambinos. They just thought it was cool.

Rhymes made of garlic/
never in the target when the narcs hit/
the rumor is you might start to spit/ (ONE)



(Chicks( yellin/
Beanie man swung on Hellen/
back of a cop car dirty Tasha tellin/

MH. Yes. Dead on.

Gets. Impossible is one of the best verses of all time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmqwoedA6ac


just found this video. raekwon talks about criminal element in different ethnicities in SI including italians....

Cheech I'm talking strictly as a substance they're the same thing. Mixing agents, etc can affect the purity therefore the intensity of the effect, but that don't make it a whole other drug.
Freebase when done right is basically a pure version of "crack." This is the only way I can explain it. Crack is just the result of a sloppy process of turning coke into crack, without purifying it.

Yeah to coke and not to crack, never done it in my life I don't plan to, but lol that sounds like a great idea, thank god we don't have crack whores here, only a few H ones.

I get what your saying. Where are you from?

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Got my first Rollie there. Down stairs from the Russians. [/quote]
I like Benny's spot. Good quality diamonds. Got a couple rings and maybe a chain or two

I don't know what the web and the books say but back in the late 70's when it first and I mean first came around I watched a suppler get a kilo cut a third of it off take a big spoon dig out the center. He had about an 8 ball on the spoon, had a glass baby jar(when they were glass) in a little boiling water put the jar in add baking soda.I said why the soda he said it takes out the toxins and cut and you are left with the coke free of cut and toxins back to it's BASE as per Freebase .This is way back before any of the ghettos even thought of using coke it was 80-100 $ a gram ,but the kilo's were cheep all you needed was the connection. This is way before anyone added all the crazy stuff that is added now.

I said first came around ,before everyone says it was here in 1900 I know . What I am talking about is the wave that came in the 80 ish.

Indeed. I watched the Rae video speaking about different ethnic groups on SI and how he mentioned that his old projects was taken over by the Africans. Puzzled me a bit because on a street level never known new African immigrants to run the streets.

Rza hinted on the same song about Africans being the new immigrant group on SI

innocent black immigrants locked in housing tenements/

Stapleton's been stamped as a concentration camp/


Same people that put the Rae video out have a video about how Staten Island has THE highest concentration of former child soldiers in the United States. Most of them from Liberia. Sad story actually. These guys are shell shocked killers who did and saw things that leave them permanently scarred. Running off some street dudes from the projects is a joke compared to their past lives.

A lot from Liberia, Gets.

U said !iberia. Never mind

That ain't even a lie there. Them folks were carrying choppers at 8 and seen shit kids shouldn't be seeing. Makes us all thank God we live in America and not some third world country.

The Clan is such a rabbit hole. You can go all day. First of all there is 10 of them if you count Donna. FBI sheet on them is a mile long. Ghostface went in for robbery while he was famous in Rikers. Peter Gatien had there picture on his desk. The only picture he had In his offiice. Caruso leads you to Paciello. Gun running to Steubenville. Robbing Mase. It goes on and on.

No one to fool around with that is for sure.

I like Benny's spot. Good quality diamonds. Got a couple rings and maybe a chain or two [/quote]


Ok so you know

Looks like this guy and his crew beat the mob to it when it came to extorting the crack dealers.

http://www.biography.com/people/clarence-heatley-21241317#crimes-with-the-preacher-crew

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrgBczmPLW8

The Wu Tang Clan were investigated by the FBI

http://www.vulture.com/2012/01/highlights-from-the-fbis-wu-tang-clan-file.html

It's crazy to think that Caruso is still with them if they know his past. Does anyone have any interesting stories about Staten Island, it sounds like an interesting combination of people, from a lot of connected and made men to the Wu Tang and the other groups mentioned in the Raekwon video.

Didn't caruso also rat out a made mans son who was involved in a drug related killing. He gave up his whereabouts or something i believe.

Some of the murders alleged in the wu tang fbi file was linked back to a group of bloods drug kingpins in park hill that were convicted recently. i posted up about it a while back. http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthr...1916#Post811916

Guyanese cocaine suppliers were involved in those cases and had links to death squads back in their own country.

Lou, yeah...the Black Hand of Death..
what I didn't know until yesterday was that the group they named themselves after was involved in the EXACT same crimes.....extortions and kidnappings....even of kids

pbs doc about Italian American experience briefly highlights how the Black hand would extort legitimate businesses and kidnap and kill children if refused.

Preacher and crew infamously kidnapped Rich Porter's little brother for ransom

Yes he ran Harlem for nearly 20 years then as soon as he was caught he snitched on everyone. He was supposedly like a cult leader