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Re: Mafia Books
[Re: Turi Giuliano]
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01/26/15 01:54 PM
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How ya doing John? Bored? By the way, I filed a formal report...keep it up, should be fun to watch.
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Re: Mafia Books
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Can someone chime in? I would like to know if this book is anywhere as good as it's been hyped up to be: Lucky Luciano: Mysterious Tales of a Gangland Legend This book claims to have never before seen photos and never before heard information, as pertains to Salvatore Lucania. Is it true? PS: Please don't give away the books secrets here, if any. Thanks
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Re: Mafia Books
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02/09/15 03:05 PM
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Pizzaboy- Thanks for your good advice and kind words. I am glad you are back on the net as you seem to always come up with good information. Have a great new year. Yeah I wouldn't get on the phone and cry with him or anything I heard this guy who goes on mafia message boards and sticks up for child molesters and pretends to be an ex cop does that .... I wouldn't do that
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Re: Mafia Books
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02/14/15 08:09 AM
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"DiCarlo" is the most comprehensive, impressively-sourced mob book I've ever laid eyes on. there are 2 Dicarlos though right? one pre 1938, one post 1938, are they both worth getting?
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Re: Mafia Books
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02/14/15 08:27 AM
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"DiCarlo" is the most comprehensive, impressively-sourced mob book I've ever laid eyes on. Is it set up like Raab's "Five Families"? Or a nonfiction that follows the same lines?
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Re: Mafia Books
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02/15/15 01:57 PM
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I have mentioned this before, the Vinnie "Gorgeous" book is very interesting and is a good read but as I said, I think there is much more to the Vinnie Basciano life to tell about. The Massino book was also a good read. Mob Killer is excellent and does a good job of telling the story of this nut case mob killer Charles Carniglia. I read the Alite book last week and have started the Junior Gotti book yesterday. The Alite book is good but you have to accept that there is exaggerations and lies in it.-worth buying. ON the Jr. Gotti book, I am only 25% into it. It is very well laid out and written and I think does what it is intended to do and that is to make Jr look like the boy next door. He tells a good story but I was annoyed to see his comments that the Gambino family and his in particular detest anyone who is involved with drugs in any way. I think it has been pretty well documented that the mob regularly deals in drugs. So...Philly, enjoy your shipment of books gotti jr. says in his book the Gambino family detested drugs?does he mention his uncles dealing in heroin, or ruggerio selling heroin? his dad took heroin profits. this guy don't sound to sharp, I think will pass on his book.
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Re: Mafia Books
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02/15/15 02:08 PM
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I'm embarassed to admit I skipped past 5 families ![wink wink](/threads/images/graemlins/classic/wink.gif) probably the only forumer who forgot to read it. It's a biography of Joseph DiCarlo on the same level as any great historical novel because it's so in depth. You're not just getting bit and pieces of the mobster's criminal lives but their personal lives as well. So therefore you get a lot more info than you would find in most any other mob book. A good example of the attention to detail in this book is every pistol permit or every mobster and where they got it issued is included. There's also a ton of information on the Castellamarese war from primary sources, lots of info that wasn't even in the Valachi Papers. And in general it talks so much more about what really made the mobsters function rather than just who got murdered and when. It is two parts. The first part begins when DiCarlo is born in Sicily and ends right after prohibition when the mob moves to gambling. The second book is the 30's to the 60's. I would definitely get the first one and see what you think. It's the best researched mob biography Ive read. There's 150 pages of citations and its telling of the Castellamarese war and the prohibition era was is second to none. What I like best is it took the Buffalo mob, which no one has ever been so interested in, and made it interesting.
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Re: Mafia Books
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02/15/15 04:35 PM
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Insane prices for the Frank "Buster" Wortman book: http://www.amazon.com/Frank-Buster-Wortm...+buster+wortman400 dollars!!! Last November it was about 20 or something and I was too lazy to get it!!! My eternal gratitude to anyone who manages to find a link to a shop with a "normal" price for this book. I see this damned "400$" everywhere I click
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2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
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Re: Mafia Books
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02/15/15 04:43 PM
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I'm embarassed to admit I skipped past 5 families ![wink wink](/threads/images/graemlins/classic/wink.gif) probably the only forumer who forgot to read it. Lol, you ain't the only one. I was going crazy about Five Families since I never read it and when I got it, I read a chapter or two and then forgot about it. It was good, it's just that I already know most of the things, especially early-era Castellammarese war and 30-40's stuff. Of course I'll finish it, but I might probably have to skip a chapter or two to hold my interest. That's what I hate about some Mafia books, they go into a prelude and basically ancient history of the mob even when the book's about something/somebody else entirely. When you know this stuff already like most of us, it's very boring to read about it again and again on every book, the same shit, just phrased differently. Which is why I enjoyed a lot more books like Donnie Brasco, Wiseguy, Underboss and even some of Philip Carlo's like Gaspipe. They are more concise, articulate and on-point and they don't go into a prelude about the Commission's origin whenever it's first mentioned. Also, reading about a mobster's bio is always interesting, but I don't want to know every single detail, like when did Casso or Massino hit puberty or had their first crush, come on.
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Re: Mafia Books
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02/20/15 01:56 AM
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Just finished Peter Lance's Deal With The Devil.
I must say, his expose, if you can call it that, is explosive. The reason why, is that literally on practically every page, he is documenting a lie, proving that someone lied because they contradicted themselves somewhere along the way.
But he doesn't prove the premise of the book which is to shew that FBI handler DeVecchio intended to make Scarpa the boss of the Colombo family so that he could have a top echelon mole on the Commission. It's just not believable. Not because it isn't feasible, but rather because you need more evidence to prove so far reaching a goal.
Peter's evidence for this grand scheme on DeVecchio's part is simply that DeVecchio might have had something to do with instigating the opening shots of the 3rd Colombo war. But even if true, it only proves that DeVecchio wanted to foment a war. The rest is literary sensationalism.
The book is a confusing difficult read. I can't believe I got through it. One paragraph might contain only two very long sentences.....no exaggeration. Here is a sample of a Peter Lance paragraph that just makes you shake your head in anguish...
""While that piece seemed somewhat sympathetic to Cutolo's point of view, for most of the year Capeci had been merciless covering another scandal out of 26 Federal Plaza that seemed designed by the feds to explain the leaks now threatening so many war prosecutions. A year before Cutolo's acquittal, Detective Joe Simone, who with his partner, had been responsible for a third of the collars during the conflict, was shocked to learn that he was the target of FBI charges that he'd sold his badge to the Colombos."" - Deal With The Devil by Peter Lance.
Unbelievable.
The whole book is written in the above manner. Literally. It's an aggravating book to read. You can't read it fast. If you do, you will just be reading words with no coherent meaning. Each paragraph will confuse you (no matter what speed you read), and you will need to circle back and reread sentences and paragraphs 2 and 3 times over and over to grasp the main idea and move on. I don't know why Peter Lance wrote the book that way. His writing style makes me think that he had no idea what he was writing about.
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Re: Mafia Books
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02/22/15 05:17 AM
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I finished reading king of the godfathers. Is there any point to buy the rise and fall of Joey massino or are they pretty much the same things?
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Re: Mafia Books
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02/22/15 08:50 AM
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I finished reading king of the godfathers. Is there any point to buy the rise and fall of Joey massino or are they pretty much the same things? It's pretty much the same thing. The book you read by DeStefano, i think is the better one out of the two, but if you have the time to kill and a couple bucks than it's worth it.
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Re: Mafia Books
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02/22/15 11:22 AM
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Ok thanks. I'm reading the enforcer tony Spilotro right now. Not bad so far. I like the roemer books so far. I read the tony Accardo one he had and that was pretty good as well.
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Re: Mafia Books
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02/25/15 09:13 PM
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Yes very true. I just finished enforcer. Was a good read. I'm gonna order man against the mob and war of the godfathers. Any info on them? I'm sure I'll like them being that I enjoyed his two that I did read.
"My uncle(Nicky Scarfo) always told me, you have to use your brains in this thing, and you always have to use the gun." -"crazy" Phil Leonetti-
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Re: Mafia Books
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Saw this book about history of organized crime in Seattle, centered mostly on Frank Colacurcio and characters he interacted with: http://www.amazon.com/Seattle-Vice-Strip...ds=seattle+viceHowever, I noticed some reviewers say too much facts in the book sound like unverified gossip. If you have read it, could you tell me how many errors are there? It's one thing if they just got some details wrong, it's another if half of the book is made up. I checked some pages available for free and saw Jerry Langella being labeled as a GAMBINO member and being suspected in ordering the hit on Joe Barboza (why would New York care about a hit in San Francisco that came from Providence?). If that's the only MAJOR error and if it's not claimed to be the truth, but just gossip, I can "forgive" the book, but if all of it is like that, I would better save the money. On the other hand, it's the only book on Seattle gangland, so it's tempting, but only if most errors are minor. Has anybody read this, could you express your judgement? P.S. Maybe they confused Langella with Angiulo, since both were named Gennaro?
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2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
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Re: Mafia Books
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02/27/15 02:40 AM
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Yes very true. I just finished enforcer. Was a good read. I'm gonna order man against the mob and war of the godfathers. Any info on them? I'm sure I'll like them being that I enjoyed his two that I did read. War of the Godfathers is fiction. Avoid it. Ok snakes thanks. I think that one got bad reviews on amazon.
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Re: Mafia Books
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I had a chance to get a few books I haven't read since where I live it's very tough to find any OC books, especially about the American CN. I got Murder Machine, Mob Killer, Al D'arco's book, Vinny Gorgeous and Gotti's Rules.
I also wanted to get Casino the book and maybe Phil Leonetti's one since I've always found the Philly mob pretty interesting. I've already read many of the books mentioned here, but they have always been ebooks in PDF format, EPUB, etc so these are my first real hardcover books.
I had a look at each of them, they seemed alright. About 10 pages in M.Machine, it's real damn good.
-I shot him a coupla' times. -What's a couple? -Hmm, more than a couple... Really I don't know the exact amount, maybe I shot him 10 times, 12 times? -Maybe fifteen? -Hmm, it could've been fifteen...
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