Hahah get outta here pmac seriously those two maniacs did rails of blow in the fed courthouse during what a lunch recess? Where did u hear that story cuz ur right if thats true thats the craziest most gangster thing ive heard in a while. That just says i dont give a fuck if i have to sit thru this boring court shit then im gonna be tooted up... Im an attorney and even i think doin that in court is hilarious and insanely ballsy

Well, that's it. If they only kill each other that's one thing. But the Feds still won't tolerate another Colombo type war or anything like what's been going on in Canada these past few years.


I see that argument made every so often and I don't agree with it. Because if a made guy or a well known associate disappears, it makes the same headlines as when one of them gets murdered. Think Hoffa (for the most public example ever, but you get my point).

I've read Casso's book (by Carlo which is doubtful) and I've read the books about the DeMeo crew including his son's. The Gemini twins were pure psychpaths, made of the same material as serial killers like Ted Bundy, etc. their only difference being they were involved in a Mafia context.
I get they didn't have much clout and support but you can't underestimate them.. I honestly think they'd have a fair chance at taking out Casso. It's not like the rest of the family STRONGLY supported keeping somebody like Casso and Amuso in power.

I tend to agree. Anyone can kill anyone on any given day. Especially where psychopaths are concerned. Now the twins would have ended up dead or in jail anyway, but had they whacked Casso it would have staved off a lot of turmoil and unrest.

The '80s really were a volatile time, especially in Brooklyn and the Bronx. Takes me back, though. I turned 21 in 1980, and 30 in 1989. And your 20's are arguably the most memorable decade of your life (marriage, career, etc.). So enjoy them now, boys .

That's possibly the most deranged statement I've ever heard.

Check your pm, DB.

Testa maybe,,,Senter no.

Both were. I'll take D'arco's word for it.

in Murder machine nino gaggi mentions that all of tehn guys in the demeo crew testa was the only one ever to get made, cuz full Italian, anynone cann elaborate on the story of the twins snorting coke durin ther trial, I don't think that's the reason their bail was revoke, it think it was mostly cuz of their heinous crimes and charges againist them, also testa might get out in 15 years from now if he is healthy and Anthony too

Both Senter and Testa were made. D´Arco confirmed this in his book. I think he said he was at the ceremony. No reason at all to doubt what he said. Gaggi died on April 15, 1988. Senter and Testa were made in the fall of 1988. So while Gaggi was still alive, neither Testa or Senter were made. Besides, Murder Machine was based on Montiglio´s information. By 1988, Montiglio was not longer around.

Really? I mean in all the statements that you've heard, the one that calls the Gemini twins psychopaths is possibly the most deranged?

Maybe it was an overstatement but they are psychopathic killers and the DeMeo crew is the one most often compared to serial killers. You should read some of their stories, just the one mentioned above about tooting lines in court shows their mentality - they gave 0 shits.

Should that be plural?

A shit implies one shit.

They gave two shits implies plural.

But they gave 0 shits? I'm gonna have to check with Merriam Webster on this. But don't worry, I'll get back to you because I know this is the kind of thing that keeps a guy up at night.

they were exactly as you say malandrino, sickos from the word go.

they killed for thrills, much like the serial killers that they were. any family that made them were stupid, if they were on the streets made, they would be like casso, and scarfo bringing down their families.

remebr reading something that senter had a no show job or was collecting union benefits I can really remember like 10+ yrs ago and got them taken way. about him being a made guy hes posing in a lot of pics with all made member the pic with him and casso and I think amuso, jail picks with perisco. lil al says he kinda was the speaker of the ceremony of his son joe and the gem twins. yaeh I don't remember but theres a classic article about the twins getting busted in the fed courthouse bathroom doing coke there first trial was like 18months and dead locked I think and the second probably longer. the daily news and times got there old articles locked you got to pay $$$

I agree Binnie they were never leadership material, but then again Casso wasn't much of a good leader either.

Damn you PB now I gotta think about this. You're making me doubt my level of the English language now, thanks a lot. Gonna post the question in Yahoo answers, with all them nutcases there maybe we might get some good answers