https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtwjVhIPs9g

Possible motive behind JR stabbing....Alite Claims JR was actually thrown out of the mafia in 2005 when they found out about pro-offer.

Thanks for posting this, I enjoyed it very much! alite actually seems like he spoke from the heart & appears to genuinely changed from bad guy to good guy. He didn't even want to discuss Vicky out of respect plus as he put it "wasn't there to discuss her but rather to give a message to kids that the life is no good"

I never knew Mark Reiter's kid got whacked either? Anyone know the story behind that ? Although I read Reiter's brother got killed & it was done by Tommy Karate & his co defendant who was later killed in prison (hit ordered by Reiter)

my 2 cent I kinda believe him in this interview. im sure some of are poster can post if nick corrozo was actin boss in 2005 he got picked up in crackdown day 2011. was he out in 05 when alites in brazil talkin got the lawyer nephew. he really throws carnesi under the boss saying he brought the proffer to dan marino. all this shit can be found out because these guys are always In prison so the dates will add up. not a good look for jr and its a mess the feds leting this shit get public never ever should happen. the capo from the Genovese mention to a fed small talk that another soldier fusco got made when he was in jail that one sentence got in a presenting report and the westside bosses put the hit out and hes dead. jr legacy in his head has been destroyed. what about gotti sr never letting any one in his presense wearing sunglasses theres so many fed pics I wonder if he really inforced it.

yaeh iim starting to think that stabbing was lcn related. someone must have not wanted his book out and tried to stop it. not a hit just a threat stabing, heard in the gut is more painful then getting shot. don't believe for a second gotti sr sent john alite in 1986(whats alite 23?) to tell joe n gallo to step down gravano would have put that in his book. gotti paid for gallos appeal on those ravenite tapes talking about how expansive it was.

any of you new capeci lcn rat book writters need to get to one of them bonanno guys. hopefuly vitale if not that guy shellack head think he was acting underboss to awhile just not cicale that guy was made and flipped in 1yr. after 12 guys from the old days flipped. alite says he got 9k for the book but sun of sam law took it. somereson he comes off as sensere. like when he tells jr get that srewed up gotti legacy out your mind it eneded bad for all of them. look at gigante family there all still in legit million dolar jobs except the one girl.

If that story about Gotti jr's lawyer Charles Carnesi being the guy who tipped off Marino is true, damn Gotti jr should know that if u ever want to entertain the idea of ratting- never involve your usual mob lawyer. U must fire him & get a federal government funded one

That stabbing wasn't LCN related, get it out of your head pmac.

Alite telling Joe N Gallo to step down? I agree with you. That's hilarious, Gallo would've slapped the shit out of him. Gallo was very well liked & respected. He was consig under 3 bosses, Carlo, Paul & JG. He was a contender to take over from Anastasia for fucks sake.

Terrible audio quality on this video.

Alite's a piece of shit, but yeah Gotti Jr definitely ratted on Danny Marino and was shelved.

Gotti admitted to the proffer in his book, he couldnt deny it if the paperwork it out, its black and white, can only do damage control, what a way to shit on your family name.

Bet his uncles & cousins don't speak to him anymore. He was never cut out for that life.

A rat is a rat is a rat.

A rat under any other name is still a rat.

This is a black and white issue.

Gotti Jr. is a rat. I agree with you on this, Tommy Gambino.

I am curious as to why so many people have such a VERY negative opinion towards Alite?

I do know that he is in that rat category and can totally understand why guys within the life would want to eat his heart out BUT, us regular folks do not really know the guy.

I will say that he ABSOLUTELY seems genuine when he speaks.....WHY? because when he speaks it flows.....When someone is lying about things, they usually pause and choose their words wisely. He does acknowledge that he was an evil person and I do not doubt the slightest bit that he saw so much wrongness, favoritism and nepotism....I believe he had a front row seat to immense rule breaking that if it were anyone else who broke the rules, they would be dead in the street. That second set of rules makes a normal guy fuming mad.......Think about our present day income inequality. That really is aggravating and people want to lash out but, are just unsure of which avenue to choose.....Alite chose to hit him as hard as he could!

I'll tell you this and I dot know junior from a hole in the wall. But I do know some people in Long Island. And all I'll say is he does still have friends. Take that for whatever you'd like.
Like I said. That's what I heard from more than one person.

do his friends know he is a snitch? seems to be proof positive on this thread that JR ate birdseed, and sang.

do his friends trust him?

To be fair, it looks like Gotti Jr didn't disclose anything particularly important. Among the living Gambino's, he says Marino okayed Hydell's murder, but that's about it. And though it is a dirty move, and a violation of omerta, it is also true that Marino was part of an opposing faction in the family. This hardly rises to the same level as Gravano's treachery . . . .


FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION


Date of Transcription 01/16/2006


JOHN A. GOTTI, also known as (aka) JUNIOR (GOTTI, JR.) (Protect Identity) was present at the united States Attorney’s Office, Southern district of New York (SDNY), 500 Pearl Street, New York, New York on January 18, 2005 for a proffer session. This meeting was arranged at GOTTI, JR.’S request. Also present were GOTTI JR.’S ATTORNEYS, Jeffrey Lichtman, Esq., and MARC FERNICH, Esq., as well as Assistant United States Attorneys (AUSAS) Robert Buehler, Joon Kim and Jennifer Rodgers, SDNY.

After GOTTI JR. and his attorneys read the proffer agreement and the terms of that agreement were explained to them by the AUSAS, GOTTI JR. signed the agreement. GOTTI JR. thereafter provided the following information.

The Murder of Danny Silva

In the early morning hours of either March 11th or 12th, 1983, GOTTI JR. , along with friends MARK CAPUTO and ANTHONY AMOROSO, were present at the SLIVER FOX bar located on 101st Street and Liberty Avenue in Queens, New York. At some point, TOMMY Last Name Unknonw (LNU) aka “ELFIE” approached GOTTI, JR., who was seated at the bar with a female friend, DONNA (LNU) . According to GOTTI, JR., ‘ELFIE’ repeatedly bumped into him. Words were exchanged, one thing led to another and GOTTI, JR. ultimately hit ‘ELFIE’ with a broken glass bottle. GOTTI, JR. then stabbed ‘ELFIE’ with a knkife that GOTTI JR. had obtained from AMOROSO.
According to GOTTI JR., a melee ensued involving approximately 30 to 40 of the bar’s patrons. GOTTI JR. recalled that among those involved in the melee wee: DANNY SILVA, JOHN and GREG MASSA, ANGELO CASTELLI, JOEY CURIO, First Name Unknow (FNU) RILEY and JOHN CENNAMO. GOTTI JR. stated that DANNY SILVA was stabbed and killed during the melee.

GOTTI, JR. described a meeting which occurred a hort time after the incident at the SLIVER FOX, between ANGELO RUGGIERO, SR., AND New York City Police Department (NYPD) Detective, JOHN DALY. GOTTI ,JR. drove RUGGIERO to the meeting, which took place at the Sherwood Dinier located near the Five Towns, on the Queens-Nassau County border. Before the meeting GOTTI JR. and RUGGIERO discussed the purpose of the meeting. According to GOTTI , JR. , RUGGIERO was carrying a brown paper bag containing $25,000 in cash. GOTTI, JR. observed RUGGIERO sit in the rear of the diner and meet with DALY and an unknown white male. RUGGIERO advised GOTTI JR. that the $25,000 cash payment was made to DALY to get his (GOTTI JR.’S) name out of the SILVER FOX murder investigation. While GOTTI, JR., did not directly meet DALY, DALY did acknowledge GOTTI, JR.on his way out of the diner, as GOTTI, JR. sat waiting in the car.

Following this meeting with RUGGIERO and DALY, GOTTI, JR. was instructed by his father, JOHN J. GOTTI, (GOTTI, SR.) TO LEAVE New York for a while until things “colled down.” GOTTI, JR. left New York for Fort Lauderdale, Florida, whee he remained for some time. At some time GOTTI, SR. joined him in F.orida and the two eventually returned to New York.

Upon GOTTI, JR.’S return to New York, he learned that JOHN CENNAMO , one of DANNY SILVA’S friends who was present that the SILVER FOX the night SILVA was stabbed and killed, was dead, apparently having hung himself..

GOTT JR. provided the following as background:

ANGELO RUGGIERO was ‘put on the shelf” by GOTTI, SR. after the murder of JIMMY HYDELL in 1986. HYDELL was tortured and killed by members of the Luchese Organized Crime Family because he (HYDELL) and others had shot and tried to kill ANTHONY ‘GASPIPE’ CASSO. The Luchese Family learned that RUGGIERO was behind the attempt to kill CASSO and demanded that RUGGIERO himself be killed. GOTTI, SR., who was very close to RUGGIERO, did not have RUGGIERO killed. Instead, RUGGIERO was “put on the shelf.”

Prior to HYDELL’S murder, members of the Luchese Family summoned Gambino Family members JIMMY “BROWN”FAILLA and JOE ‘BUTCH’ CORRAO to the location where HYDELL was being held. According to GOTTI, JR., faille AND corraoa wee summoned to that location so that they would be present when HYDELL admitted his and RUGGIERO’S involvement in the attempted murder of CASSO. Prior to the Luchese Family killing HYDELL, FAILLA and CORRAO obtained Gambino Family member DANNY MARINO’S approval to kill HYDELL., because, according to GOTTI, JR., HYDELL was MARINO’S nephew.

Even though RUGGIERO had been “put on the shelf,” GOTTI, JR., continued to meet with him in violation of mafia protocol. GOTTI’S father, (GOTTI SR.) reprimanded him on occasion for meeting with RUGGIERO. GOTTI, JR. learned from RUGGIERO that in the weeks and months after SILVA was killed at the SILVER FOZ, CENNAMO ut continued pressure on the police department to investigate his (SILVA’S) murder. RUGGIERO told GOTTI, JR. that CENNAMO “pressed” his 9GOTTI’S) name in the investigation and his (GOTTI, JR.’S) role in the bar fight that led to SILVA’S murder. RUGGIERO told GOTTI, JR. that he (RUGGIERO) and others had obtained NYPD DD5S [official police department reports] of the SILVA murer investigation from DALY. RUGGIERO then advised GOTTI, JR. that CENNAMO’S death , which appeared to be a suicide, was in fact a murder and that he (RUGGIERO), JOE WATTS and WILLIE BOY JOHNSON had killed CENNAMO on GOTTI SR.’S orders. RUGGIERO told GOTTI JR. that DETECTIVE JOHN DALY provided background information regarding CENNAMO which the Gambino family used to locate him.

Several years later, after GOTTI JR. was arrested on unrelated charges, an additional cash payment was made to DALY when GOTTI JR.’S name resurfaced in the SILVA murder investigation.

GOTTI JR. stated that after his father was arrested and remanded to prison [December 1990] , GOTTI JR. frequently met with JOE WATTS, who was a close associate of GOTTI SR. At one meeting with WATTS at the Lum Chin Chinese restaurant,, WATTS admitted his involvement in the murder of CENNAMO. Wattsa also told GOTTI JR. that the first “piece of work” he (WATTS) was involved in was the murder of VITO BORELLI in approximately 1980, which he committed with GOTTI SR.

According to GOTTI JR. JOHN DALY was assigned to the 106th Precinct during the time he received the payoffs from the Gambino Family and provided information to the Gambino Family about the SILVA murder investigation. GOTTI JR. added that DALY later went to work for the Queens District Attorney’s Office.

Oak Point Garbage Dump

At some point in late 1980’s GOTTI JR and others wanted to develop approximately 28 acres of land located on the Bronx side of the Triboro Bridge. This tract of land was known as Oak Point and at that time was being used by New York City as a garbage dump. GOTTI, JR. and his associates wanted to build modular homes on the property through a company known as Brite Star Homes. In addition to the housing development GOTTI JR. wanted to get involved in the construction of the Bronx House of Detention on that site. GOTTI JR. had received assurances that he would be able to sell the prison to the City of New York for twenty million dollars.

According to GOTTI JR., DAVID NORKIN, a partner of GOTTI, JR.’S in this venture purchased the property. GOTTI JR. advised that bribes were paid to at least two city politicians in order to secure certain city permits required for the development of the project. JOE ZINGARO, a captain in the Gambino Family, had a close association with Bronx politician, EFRAIM ‘EFFIE’ GONZALEZ. GOTTI JR. gave $20,000.00 in cash to ZINGARO for ZINGARO to give to GONZALEZ. According to ZINGARO, GONZALEZ accepted the $20,000.00 GOTTI JR., using the alias JOHN RUSSO, met GONZALEZ at a function they both attended at Alex and Henry’s Catering Hall in the Bronx.

According to GOTTI , JR., additional bribe money was paid to FERNANDO FERRER through NORKIN. NORKIN suggested making the payments to FERRER. According to GOTTI, JR. on at least two different occasions, he (GOTTI, JR.) gave $25,000.00 in cash to NORKIN for NORKIN to give to FERRER. GOTTI, JR.’S close associate MICHAEL McLAUGHLIN, delivered the money. GOTTI, JR. again using the alias JOHN RUSSO, also met directly with FERRER at NORKIN’S office. According to GOTTI, JR. the bribes paid to FERRER did secure whatever permit (s) GOTTI, JR. and his associates needed to obtain for their project.

In addition to the payments described above, GOTTI, JR. paid an additional $100,000.00 to $125,000.00 in cash to various city politicians through NORKIN and the las firm DAVIDOFF MILITO in order to ‘grease the skids” in the development of the housing project and detention center.

After NORKIN purchase Oak Pint, GOTTI, JR. and his associates continued to operate the garbage dump from approximately January 1989 through late August 1989. GOTTI, JR.S “guys,” including McLAUGHLIN, worked at the dump. GOTTI, JR. stated that investigators with the Department of Investigation (DOI) or another New York City investigative agency photographed GOTTI, JR. at the garbage dump on several occasions. Once this photographic evidence of GOTTI, JR.’S connection to the property surfaced, his (GOTTI, JR.’S) investors and business associates no longer wanted to be involved and the project was never completed.

In approximately the spring of 1990, GOTTI, JR. and other Gambino Family members pursued another project involving a garbage dump. This dump was located in Matamoras, Pennsylvania. GOTTI, JR. attended a ‘sit -down” with other members of the Gambino Family, as well as high-ranking members of the Luchese Family concerning this project. On behalf of the Gambino Family (which GOTTI, JR. continually referred to as “our family”) GOTTI, JR., his (GOTTI, JR.’S) uncle , PETE GOTTI, and SALVATORE “SAMMY THE BULL” GRAVANO met with representatives of the Luchese Family, AL D’ARCO, ANTHONY “GAS PIPE” CASSO and PATTY MASSELLI. According to GOTTI, JR., the deal to purchase and operate this garbage dump fell through.

Queen’s District Attorney’s Office

GOTTI, JR. also stated that Gambino Family member ANTHONY “TONY LEE” GUERRIERI and his relationship with local politician, SAL REALE, the Gambino Family had “influence” with the Queens District Attorney’s (DA) Office while JOHN SANTUCCI was the District Attorney. GOTTI, JR. identified MIKE CURRO as the Gambino Family’s “go to guy.” GOTTI, JR. also advised that after GUERRIERI died, the Gambino Family lost most of their influence with the Queens DA’s Office.

recent radio interview with Gotti Jr

http://chirb.it/DzJ77E

To be quite honest, i think both Alite and Gotti Jr are telling the truth for the most part. I think Alite is exaggerating some of his stories where he was involved with fights though.
He mentions he was given a beating and was in the hospital for a month but doesnt say by whom or why?
Obviously Gotti isnt as forth coming either. For the most part, 75% of what they say is true( i believe).
To be fair, Alite was locked up in a Brazilian prison a d i am sure that had something to do with his decision. I cant say i blame him.
I do believe both are done with the life.

Thanks for the transcript Dominic, great read

& I agree Belmont, them South American jails are hell holes.

Do you think the people he told on just found out from Alite? All I said is he isn't without friends from what I hear. Believe or don't believe. Don't care.

And unless you have faced spending the rest of your life in a box when you have a young family you may wanna take a second before judging.
And I am not a rat apologist or do I give two shits about Gotti Jr or anyone of these psychopaths. I'm just saying, don't be so quick to judge. And that's not just in this equation but in life. No one knows what it's like to walk in another mans shoes.

Even at max volume you can barely hear shit, still thanks a lot for the link, Extortion I would probably never have found it.

Alite is pretty much your cliche stereotypical rat who doesn't mind admitting it, while Jr was "queen for a day" - basically, ratting without consequences and always maintained that he quit the life and never ratted on nobody... he's in a lot of denial until this book where he admits on telling about Marino.

Okay so basically you ratted on (without consequences) a guy in your CN family because he betrayed your father / was more loyal to another CN family? And that makes it okay? No way.

And I agree, Alite sounds pretty genuine when he talks about the life, it's not hard to tell.
I'm a little disappointed though, you can't tell a thing about his heritage if you didn't know. I guess at the end of the day he's just American.

Carnesi isn't disputing the validity of the 302, he's asking who leaked it. Tells you all you need to know. It's real. Junior snitched.

I posted this yesterday here and elsewhere, but I'm bored. John Alite was 24 years old in 1986, un-made and Albanian. He wasn't even on record with anyone (Junior didn't get his button until two or three years later). The idea that John Senior would give him a direct order to go see Joe Gallo out in Astoria is too laughable to even argue about.

There are plenty of scenarios for what happened at the proffer session. My guess is that Junior volunteered the information in hopes of becoming a C.I. and getting the pending charges dropped. But the Feds didn't want him as a C.I. They wanted him on the stand to belittle his father, even in death. Junior couldn't go that route, the deal fell through, and the Feds let the 302 leak out of spite. It wouldn't be the first time.

And what Cheech said before: This is old news to Marino. He was given that 302 years ago and gave Junior a pass. They shelved him instead of killing him. And this was BEFORE the 302 was public knowledge. No way in Hell they hit him now. No way in Hell.

Whether you like him or not, give Junior credit for one thing: He took getting shelved and spun it into his "retirement" defense at his four trials. That was a smart move on his part.

Bottom line: Junior snitched, but but so did Alite. They both deserve whatever fate has in store for them. You play you pay.

You sure know alot about proffer sessions pb

OK first of all is the 302 online anywhere because the smoking gun usually has this type of shit on its webpage.Second i guarentee you guys in the gambinos knew about this all along the reason now looks clear he was shelved he didnt quit the mob.Look at greg Scarpa joel cacace was telling everyone for decades that GS was a snitch and a few other guys in the colombos had suspisions about him so sometimes when someone snitches its not a secret.The reason im thinking JR wasnt clipped was because i think one of his uncles probably stepped and told everyone that JR wouldnt be a problem anymore and might have to pay a fine and 2 he was just too high profile beacuse of his name.The problem now is he is writing books going on TV instead of just fading away and being of peoples minds.Say what you want about Alite but he defiantly gets the last laugh Alite is admitting hes and he completly humiliated JR. now has to have this over his head forever.

That's what I said. They gave him a pass. He got shelved instead of clipped, then spun "quitting the mob" into his defense. Gotta give him credit for that (although it was probably Carnesi's idea).

That 302 is heart breaking, He shit on his family name, his Dad died in jail for this thing, his uncles are doing a million years, and he just shits all over there name, fucking horrible.

He admits to the proffer session in his book, and says he snitched on two enemies for revenge, I think he backed out because he didnt want his sons to have to change there name, but he shit all over that name himself.

That's the rat's National Anthem:

Verse One: I did it for revenge.

Verse Two: I did it for my family.

Same shit every snitch tells himself to get to sleep at night. I'm not judging him. It is what it is. And unless you've been in that position yourself, you really shouldn't pass judgement on the guy. But a rat is a rat is a rat.

You are 100% right.Same story over and over.You missed one: "They were goin' to kill me".
But as you said,until you are in that position you really don't know.

This.