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Re: NFL 2014 [Re: MaryCas] #821062
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Originally Posted By: MaryCas
Thank God the Giants season is over. Big changes are needed. 1, Tom Coughlin should retire. 2, Perry Fewell, good bye. 3. The West Coast offensive, good bye. What is it? All the running plays are inside the tackles...boring...doesn't work. 4. Draft Eli's replacement. His time is past. Great wins as QB, Super Bowls, but...sorry Eli, you don't have it anymore. You and Peyton can make commercials. 5. They have the making of a great offense; Beckhnam, Cruz, Randle, Donnell, Williams. Find a QB. The O-line will improve. 6. Draft D-line, LBs, CBs, S.

Eagles fans are a bunch of whiners. Hate the Cowboys, but they are "Americas Team" and they do bring in the fans.


I think the Bears would gladly take Eli lol. Actually, the Bears probably would take anybody as QB at this point.

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Originally Posted By: MaryCas
They have the making of a great offense; Beckham, Cruz, Randle, Donnell, Williams.


Got yourself two LSU WRs on that list, so the foundation is there smile

Would you Giants entertain the idea of taking Mike Wallace in Miami in exchange for Beckham? He's a seasoned WR wink


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Re: NFL 2014 [Re: olivant] #821093
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Bears fire Trestman. Not a surprise, nice guy but wasn't ready for the NFL.

Last edited by NickyEyes1; 12/29/14 09:36 AM.
Re: NFL 2014 [Re: olivant] #821102
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Here we go Steelers, here we go!


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Re: NFL 2014 [Re: NickyEyes1] #821118
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Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
Bears fire Trestman. Not a surprise, nice guy but wasn't ready for the NFL.


The GM and OC was also fired. They already hired somebody to help them find a new GM/HC (Ernie Accorsi).

Mentioning the Giants, they still have their head coach which is really surprising.

Re: NFL 2014 [Re: Binnie_Coll] #821224
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Originally Posted By: Binnie_Coll
your post is right on about the giants, but coughlin will stay, and if they took your advise about the rest of it they would improve, good analysis.

I hate the cowboys with a passion, its not romo that is making that team go. its DeMarco murray, and dez Bryant, I still think romo is a choker.


Romo is a choker confused ? The guy came back from a mid-season broken back to lead the Cowboys to a 12-4 season and a Divisional Title, while leading or close to leading the league in most QB Efficiency Ratings. The fact is he was one of the best three in the league this season alongside, Aaron Rodgers and J.J Watt. No doubt he has a great running game to back him up, but when you look at the best QB other than him Rodgers' Packers are possibly the most stacked in the league. I believe the Cowboys will beat the Lions then bow out against the Seahawks but this doesn't = Romo - choker, the NFC is about as stacked as the WC in the NBA is this season.

I'd like the Broncos to take it this year mainly because a player of Mannings calibre deserves more than one title and time is clearly running out, but i can't see past the Packers or Seahawks winning.

Re: NFL 2014 [Re: olivant] #821226
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Originally Posted By: olivant
Here we go Steelers, here we go!

Bell is out...here we go Ravens.


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Re: NFL 2014 [Re: LaLouisiane] #821227
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Originally Posted By: LaLouisiane
Originally Posted By: MaryCas
They have the making of a great offense; Beckham, Cruz, Randle, Donnell, Williams.


Got yourself two LSU WRs on that list, so the foundation is there smile

Would you Giants entertain the idea of taking Mike Wallace in Miami in exchange for Beckham? He's a seasoned WR wink


lol lol lol They would be certifiably deemed NUTZ! Giants need a few defensive players and they can be considered a serious contender.


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Re: NFL 2014 [Re: olivant] #822020
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Well, my Steelers didn't make it. They reverted to making many errors and getting penalized. I guess that without L'eveon Bell that was to be expected.


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Re: NFL 2014 [Re: olivant] #822024
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Baltimore had a good game plan going. And you're right about Bell. Without a balanced attack, Pittsburgh had a more difficult time. But how bout that Ravens D? Never allowed more than 4.0 yards a carry in 19 seasons in the league. No signs of slowing down without Ray Lewis or Ed Reed. In my opinion the only team who might have a shot at beating Brady is the Ravens. Not even Denver comes close

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[quote=rockstar_man45]Baltimore had a good game plan going. And you're right about Bell. Without a balanced attack, Pittsburgh had a more difficult time. But how bout that Ravens D? Never allowed more than 4.0 yards a carry in 19 seasons in the league. No signs of slowing down without Ray Lewis or Ed Reed. In my opinion the only team who might have a shot at beating Brady is the Ravens. Not even Denver comes close [/quot

the ravens had a good win tonight, but, can they make it to the afc championship game, I doubt it, you have to admit Pittsburgh beat themselves. [ fumbles, penalties,intercetions] the next game the ravens play is going to be a lot tougher.



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Re: NFL 2014 [Re: olivant] #822139
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well, it wasn't hard for the cowboys to beat the lions, when you have an owner [jerry jones] who can buy off the officiating crew.

worst penalty call I have ever witnessed, throw a flag and then many minutes later pick it up. resulting in no penalty.

never seen it happen before, its called " buying off the refs" that's the only way they can win, their season ends in green bay. you can count on it.



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Re: NFL 2014 [Re: Binnie_Coll] #822140
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Originally Posted By: Binnie_Coll
well, it wasn't hard for the cowboys to beat the lions, when you have an owner [jerry jones] who can buy off the officiating crew.

worst penalty call I have ever witnessed, throw a flag and then many minutes later pick it up. resulting in no penalty.

never seen it happen before, its called " buying off the refs" that's the only way they can win, their season ends in green bay. you can count on it.

Yup. Totally agree. Rodgers throws for four hundred next week, even if it's ten degrees.

When the ref picked up that flag, at first I thought it was Tony Romo's tampon. Disgraceful.


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Re: NFL 2014 [Re: olivant] #822152
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yup, and it was so obvious, and it turned the game around. shameful.



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Re: NFL 2014 [Re: pizzaboy] #822221
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
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well, it wasn't hard for the cowboys to beat the lions, when you have an owner [jerry jones] who can buy off the officiating crew.

worst penalty call I have ever witnessed, throw a flag and then many minutes later pick it up. resulting in no penalty.

never seen it happen before, its called " buying off the refs" that's the only way they can win, their season ends in green bay. you can count on it.

Yup. Totally agree. Rodgers throws for four hundred next week, even if it's ten degrees.

When the ref picked up that flag, at first I thought it was Tony Romo's tampon. Disgraceful.


Maybe that Fat Governor, Mr. Sitdownandshutup, contributed to the payoff. Well, the league must have told the refs to make sure the C-girls win. They needed "America's Team" to do well for the ratings, the image, and the Big $$ sponsors. We can't have lowly, economically depressed Detroit win....not with that thug King Kong Suh. sick


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Re: NFL 2014 [Re: olivant] #822260
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totally agree, good post mary.



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Re: NFL 2014 [Re: olivant] #822875
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Giants fire the defensive coordinator and D-back coach. Its about time. Coughlin said all the nice things he could, but come on, 5 years and they were in the bottom 5 too often. Yeah, the defense was good in 2012 when they won the Super Bowl, but they had two great D-Ends in Tuck and Umenyura. Good coaches win with mediocre players. Bad coaches don't, but bad coaches win with outstanding players.


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Re: NFL 2014 [Re: MaryCas] #822876
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Originally Posted By: MaryCas
Giants fire the defensive coordinator and D-back coach. Its about time. Coughlin said all the nice things he could, but come on, 5 years and they were in the bottom 5 too often. Yeah, the defense was good in 2012 when they won the Super Bowl, but they had two great D-Ends in Tuck and Umenyura. Good coaches win with mediocre players. Bad coaches don't, but bad coaches win with outstanding players.


im with you, as a NFL fan I find it hard to believe tom coughlin is still with the franchise.

I guess they are going to keep him.



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Chicago Bears hire Ryan Pace as new GM. This is from the Chicago Tribune...

The Chicago Bears have hired Ryan Pace to become their next general manager, the team announced Thursday.

Pace, 37, joins the Bears from the New Orleans Saints, where he spent the last two seasons as their director of player personnel. He spent six years before that as the Saints’ director of pro scouting. After growing up in Texas, he played defensive end at Eastern Illinois from 1995-99.

Pace is charged with reinvigorating the Bears after this season’s 5-11 skid. He replaces Phil Emery, who was fired by the Bears on Dec. 29 after posting a record of 23-25 in his three seasons as GM.

His first order of business will be to push the Bears forward in their ongoing search for a new head coach. The team fired Marc Trestman late last month and has since been on the hunt for a replacement, with consultant Ernie Accorsi, chairman George McCaskey and team president Ted Phillips heading the search.

The Bears interviewed Seahawks defensive coordinator Dan Quinn and Broncos offensive coordinator Adam Gase last weekend and have an interview scheduled for Saturday with Cardinals defensive coordinator Todd Bowles.

Pace will be officially introduced as the Bears’ new GM at an 11 a.m. news conference Friday at Halas Hall.

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great, new blood for the bears, be interesting to see who winds up as head coach. what do you think of mike shanahan?



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No, thanks, Binnie. He's basically done nothing since 1998. His last job ended in a mess. Washington was his last chance in my opinion.

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Originally Posted By: Mark
No, thanks, Binnie. He's basically done nothing since 1998. His last job ended in a mess. Washington was his last chance in my opinion.


ok, you know your football, who would you like to see coaching the bears?



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NFL 2014-2015

Will LA get a team?

Los Angeles has two sites with the legal, political and environmental clearances for NFL venues: the Farmers Field plan downtown and Ed Roski's proposal in the City of Industry.

The developers of the proposed downtown Los Angeles stadium, entertainment giant AEG, have a few more months to find a football team under an agreement with the city. AEG has vowed to build a stadium called Farmers Field along with a new wing for the city's convention center.

Here is the article:
http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp-0105-nfl-la-stadium-20150105-story.html#page=1

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Coaches on their 3rd team are pretty much a desparation move. Do you know any coaches who did good on their 3rd team?


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Originally Posted By: MaryCas
Coaches on their 3rd team are pretty much a desparation move. Do you know any coaches who did good on their 3rd team?


Pete Carroll
Bill Belichick (never coached a game with the Jets, but was named head coach twice)

Bill Parcells, Dick Vermeil and Marty Schottenheimer won division titles with later career teams.

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George allen got to the super bowl with his third team[Chicago,los angeles, Washington]

mike Holmgren was on his third team I believe, when he took seattle to the super bowl. [2005]

im sure there is more,



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Were those cited above 3 time head coaches or assistant coaches?


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Carroll - 1994 Jets, 1997-1999 Patriots, 2010- Seahawks
Belichick - 1991-1995 Browns, Jets (see my earlier note), 2000- Patriots

Parcells - 1983-1990 Giants, 1993-1996 Patriots, 1997-1999 Jets, 2003-2006 Cowboys
Schottenheimer - 1984-1988 Browns, 1989-1998 Chiefs, 2001 Redskins, 2002-2006 Chargers
Dick Vermeil - 1976-1982 Eagles, 1997-1999 Rams, 2001-2005 Chiefs

Allen was an assistant with the Bears. Holmgren was HC only with the Packers and Seahawks.

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Thanks for the research ttttttt. The list is pretty short. Beside Carroll as far as winning the big one....


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