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Re: ferguson mo. after the verdict. [Re: Binnie_Coll] #811227
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Just a note: the initial New York Times article on Offier Wilson's testimony said that the material came from government officials who weren't subjects of the civil rights investigation. To me, that means local officials were not their source, and possibly means state officials were not, either.


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Re: ferguson mo. after the verdict. [Re: Binnie_Coll] #811237
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You are right on that Pete. Some material is clearly local, but the big national stories about wilson running in NY Times and Washington Post- both papers have admitted their information came from Washington.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/18/us/ferguson-case-officer-is-said-to-cite-struggle.html?_r=0


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Re: ferguson mo. after the verdict. [Re: LittleNicky] #811281
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Originally Posted By: LittleNicky
You are right on that Pete. Some material is clearly local, but the big national stories about wilson running in NY Times and Washington Post- both papers have admitted their information came from Washington.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/18/us/ferguson-case-officer-is-said-to-cite-struggle.html?_r=0

You mean to tell me that the Uber-Conservative New York Times has the ear of someone in Obama's White House?

I'm shocked. Shocked whistle.


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Re: ferguson mo. after the verdict. [Re: Binnie_Coll] #811286
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well, whatever, holder looks like an ass. went to ferguson, promised justice. got everybody stirred up.

he goes out as A.G. looking like a fool. blaming the police dept. when the grand jury information came from the G.



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Re: ferguson mo. after the verdict. [Re: Binnie_Coll] #811288
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Originally Posted By: Binnie_Coll
he goes out as A.G. looking like a fool. blaming the police dept. when the grand jury information came from the G.

He came INTO the A.G.'s office looking like a fool, and would not have survived so many scandals if not for the color of his skin and bend over backwards liberalism.


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Re: ferguson mo. after the verdict. [Re: Binnie_Coll] #811330
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No one has mentioned that the very reverend Al Sharpton came to town and got everyone even more worked up and fanned the flames with his racist remarks. It's a shame that these communities can't look at these things more objectively. They are hurting themselves. What was Wilson supposed to do while this thug was beating the shit out of him while going for his firearm. Lets just imagine he did get the gun. What do you think he would have done with it?????? Wilson rightfully feared for his life and accordingly was justified in using deadly force

Re: ferguson mo. after the verdict. [Re: Binnie_Coll] #811340
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bigboy-- yes, according to the leaks from the grand jury, that's exactly what happened, and even the justice dept, will not seek charges against the cop. of course Sharpton is nothing but an opportunist, besides being a shameless liar. he's been exposed.



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Re: ferguson mo. after the verdict. [Re: Binnie_Coll] #811346
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Originally Posted By: Binnie_Coll
he's been exposed.

He was exposed in 1987 after the Tawana Brawley incident (which he never even acknowledged, let alone apologized for), and he's been further exposed a dozen times since then. But his target audience doesn't care. He targets the small portion of the Black community who don't really want to get ahead. They want to cry about the past and continue to get free stuff in the future. It's very telling that we have a Black President, yet these people continue to latch on to the likes of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.

Newsflash: You can be whatever you want today. Look no further than 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue where one of your own currently holds the most important office in the world. But keep looking to the Rev. That's where the smart money is rolleyes.

And the really sad thing is that Sharpton has the ear of the current mayor (who wouldn't have won if he didn't pimp out his bi-racial kids in those shameless commercials).


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Re: ferguson mo. after the verdict. [Re: IvyLeague] #811347
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"involved in a strong-armed robbery of a store not long before this all went down"

That was something else I wanted to acknowledged, Why haven't they arrested him for that crime yet?


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Re: ferguson mo. after the verdict. [Re: pizzaboy] #811348
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: Binnie_Coll
he's been exposed.

He was exposed in 1987 after the Tawana Brawley incident (which he never even acknowledged, let alone apologized for), and he's been further exposed a dozen times since then. But his target audience doesn't care. He targets the small portion of the Black community who don't really want to get ahead. They want to cry about the past and continue to get free stuff in the future. It's very telling that we have a Black President, yet these people continue to latch on to the likes of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.

Newsflash: You can be whatever you want today. Look no further than 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue where one of your own currently holds the most important office in the world. But keep looking to the Rev. That's where the smart money is rolleyes.

And the really sad thing is that Sharpton has the ear of the current mayor (who wouldn't have won if he didn't pimp out his bi-racial kids in those shameless commercials).


that piece of shit was even the "guest of honor" at sharpton's birthday party not to long ago rolleyes unbelievable


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Re: ferguson mo. after the verdict. [Re: pizzaboy] #811350
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"But his target audience doesn't care. He targets the small portion of the Black community who don't really want to get ahead. They want to cry about the past and continue to get free stuff in the future"

clap clap clap
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Finally someone pointing out a SPECIFIC point and not throwing ALL the black community in the same barrel.


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Re: ferguson mo. after the verdict. [Re: BlackFamily] #811356
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Originally Posted By: BlackFamily
"But his target audience doesn't care. He targets the small portion of the Black community who don't really want to get ahead. They want to cry about the past and continue to get free stuff in the future"

clap clap clap
+10
Finally someone pointing out a SPECIFIC point and not throwing ALL the black community in the same barrel.

Thanks, BF. I appreciate that. And I try. I really do try. I think it's just that Cook and I have a pretty volatile history here and things get out of control sometimes.

There are stereotypes in all walks of life. And unfortunately, most of them are steeped in the reality of a small percentage of buffoons (whether it's the Italian Mafioso, or the Irish drunk, or the Black Gangbanger, or the cheap Jew). These stereotypes do exist, but it's a small percentage so we shouldn't paint everyone with the same brush.


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Re: ferguson mo. after the verdict. [Re: Binnie_Coll] #811389
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Just going to throw this out there de Blasio's wife is ugly as hell. If you're going to marry a woman of any color at least make sure she's somewhat attractive. But her? She fell out of the ugly tree and got beat by one of its branches

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donn't listen to that bullshit because "he has black friends"

u know what that line means


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Re: ferguson mo. after the verdict. [Re: Binnie_Coll] #812224
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^^^What does that even mean? You're words are full of ignorance. Did you drop out of school in fifth grade because getting good grades wasn't 'cool' enough?

Re: ferguson mo. after the verdict. [Re: IvyLeague] #812232
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
From what I've heard or read the info coming back seems to support the police officer (who received severe injuries to his face and head) and suggests the guy's buddy who gave the account about the cop shooting him without any justification is lying. Not surprising considering both of them had just been involved in a strong-armed robbery of a store not long before this all went down.


I thought this was proven false, didn't the store owner say he hadn't been robbed and never called it into the police?

Re: ferguson mo. after the verdict. [Re: cookcounty] #812234
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god don't like ugly

Then you really ought to tell your mother to ditch the weave and the gold tooth.

Originally Posted By: rockstar_man45
^^^What does that even mean? You're words are full of ignorance. Did you drop out of school in fifth grade because getting good grades wasn't 'cool' enough?

Thanks, Rockstar Man. But you're giving him way too much credit. Fifth grade is a PhD. in his family.


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C'mon, you two, just stop this stuff already. pb and cook, it's obvious you guys won't be exchanging Christmas cards but it's time to put a halt to this war. While you're both guilty of taking each other's bait I have to ask cook, in particular, to chill here. This had been "dead" for awhile until you dug it up now. Let it die.


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Originally Posted By: slumpy


I thought this was proven false, didn't the store owner say he hadn't been robbed and never called it into the police?


I don't know that he said a robbery didn't happen - his statement through his lawyer was just that he didn't call the police, but that a customer had done it:

http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/local/201...brown/14138121/

In thinking about this case, one of the things that I've wondered about is if this store wasn't paying protection money to someone in the area. If so, between the robbery and the shooting Brown's friend Dorian may have let Brown know that he was in for an a** kicking, which may help explain his being in an agitated state.


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Of course M, in lieu of a theft/robbery, one wonders why on the video Brown was confronted by what appears to be the store clerk and why Brown assaulted him.


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I think it's indisputable there was a robbery and Brown committed it. The details surrounding the shooting are murky with each side giving their points of view.

The way I see it, this dude wasn't a kid, he was a fully grown six five 250 pound man, he was high, and it's shown on video Brown was aggressive and unrepentant. Clearly he was a bully and if he had the presence of mind to rob a store, what's to stop him from assaulting a police officer?

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Originally Posted By: rockstar_man45
The way I see it, this dude wasn't a kid, he was a fully grown six five 250 pound man, he was high, and it's shown on video Brown was aggressive and unrepentant. Clearly he was a bully and if he had the presence of mind to rob a store, what's to stop him from assaulting a police officer?

Darren Wilson and his trusty, police issued sidearm grin.


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Idk I just have a gut feeling they won't bring charges against Darren Wilson. The evidence just doesn't point to any sort of Civil Rights violation

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Originally Posted By: rockstar_man45
Idk I just have a gut feeling they won't bring charges against Darren Wilson. The evidence just doesn't point to any sort of Civil Rights violation

The man did NOTHING WRONG. The evidence PROVES that he did nothing wrong. An animal attacked him, and he put him down. If a rabid dog or an unruly zoo animal attacked a police officer, and the cop shot it dead in the street, we wouldn't even be having this debate.

Generally speaking, I don't even like most cops. And it's not because I don't believe that the world needs policing. We most certainly do. We need law and order to survive as a species. It's just that most guys drawn to that job have issues that I don't care for. That said, it's an impossible and thankless job. And Darren Wilson did his job bravely. And what does he get for it? A liberal biased media that vilifies him, and the contempt of every Black thug in this country (and that includes that race baiting scumbag Eric Holder).

It's enough already with this crap. This country is so over the top politically correct, that they'd rather shanghai a truly innocent man than offend a bunch of criminal minded thugs. Just because said thugs happen to be Black.


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^Completely agree. I'm just bracing for the violence that will rekindle once the grand jury absolves him of all wrongdoing

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What is it now if we find someone innocent then we have to worry about a race war?

Is that why Obama got elected for his second term? He did not do anything that should have gotten him a second term.


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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Generally speaking, I don't even like most cops. And it's not because I don't believe that the world needs policing. We most certainly do. We need law and order to survive as a species. It's just that most guys drawn to that job have issues that I don't care for. That said, it's an impossible and thankless job. And Darren Wilson did his job bravely. And what does he get for it? A liberal biased media that vilifies him, and the contempt of every Black thug in this country (and that includes that race baiting scumbag Eric Holder).


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Cops they were never my friends. Where I lived we were constantly harassed by cops. Everyone makes a big deal about stop and frisk. We were always stopped and freaked and we were not black.

So much so we hid our weapons when on the street. Building had pipes for water and oil, sewers things like that. That's is where we hid our weapons so you did not have them on you. But you can get them fast. I even hid money in places like that.

You guys probably never even heard of people doing stuff like that. Well we did stuff like that.

Well when the cops stopped us for the first time Thry wanted to know our names. So we tell them the truth. When it got to me they would rough me up because they thought I was lying. Because my real name is not Italian. I was with Italians so my name does sound like a fake name. Daddio was an Hungarian Jew who Americanized his name. My mother was Italian.

Then my so called friends would laugh when they roughed me up. Then they say tell them your real name:)


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well, the governor of Missouri is sending the national guard troops to ferguson, mo. expecting trouble after the verdict.

verdict should be in by the end of this week, maybe sooner. it's going to exonerate the cop. what's going to happen?
could be trouble, but, it won't be like last time with the guard there.

a short protest is what I see, then it will die out.



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It should be fun if you think rioting, shootings, destruction of property and taking lives is fun. I presume they will be invaded by anarkists. Msnbc will say they were just using their protected right to protest smile

Al Sharpton will be there with his boys. I hope he eats a bullet but he will be well protected I am sure. "no justice no peace"


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