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Re: The murder of Salvie Testa [Re: Mussolini14] #603243
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Hey phatmattrese do you know the status of Vince Filipelli,I know he's doing time for a gambling conviction.There has always been some controversy wheather he is a made man or not.Saw him at the coastline in Cherry Hill back in 02,after he had just gotten out of prison for that kidnapping-extortion charge involving some business man.Always at Stanfa's side,back in the day.

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Vince was straightened out in '93, he gets out in August.

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Barrett, Caramandi reported Joseph Ciancaglini until his imprisonment in '83. For the rest of '83, which was the end of the Riccobene/Scarfo War, he reported to Testa, who was running the Ciancaglini crew until his murder (as well as his own).

After he was made, Caramandi reported to Faffy Iannarella and Tommy DelGiorno as they were "Co-Capos" of one giant crew that was a merging of the Ciancaglini and Testa crews.

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Originally Posted By: 22
Hey phatmattrese do you know the status of Vince Filipelli,I know he's doing time for a gambling conviction.There has always been some controversy wheather he is a made man or not.Saw him at the coastline in Cherry Hill back in 02,after he had just gotten out of prison for that kidnapping-extortion charge involving some business man.Always at Stanfa's side,back in the day.
no i sure don't sorry


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Re: The murder of Salvie Testa [Re: Mussolini14] #603273
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As mentioned upthread, in the book "The Boardwalk Jungle" by Ovid DeMaris, the author speculates that the flattering 1984 WSJ article about Salvie Testa, which called him the "heir to the top job in the Philadelphia Mafia", said that "Testa was on the brink of controlling the city's Mafia" and "has consolidated his power, bringing many friends into the Mob" would not have pleased the preening and paranoid Scarfo.

In the book "The Plumber" by Joseph Salerno and Stephen Rivele, the WSJ article is also mentioned as a source of friction, along with the claim that shortly after the broken engagement, the Family bigshots met at a restaurant and got into a heated argument which ended with Scarfo throwing Testa out.

And then finally in the book "Blood and Honor" by George Anastasia, Caramandi confirms the essentially personal nature of the Testa murder, claiming that he knew as soon as he heard of Testa's spurning of Merlino's daughter that Testa was a dead man. According to Caramandi an immediate campaign of lies and shunning began to be directed at Testa. The author also believed that Scarfo didn't take much convincing by Merlino to agree to Testa's elimination as he may feared to have Testa and Merlino too close.


"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
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Now this is the Law of the Jungleā€”as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
Re: The murder of Salvie Testa [Re: PhillyKid] #603282
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Thanks there Philly Kid about the Filipelli info

Re: The murder of Salvie Testa [Re: phatmatress] #603328
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no way i saw recent pics of her on the real deal forum she is still hot!!!!!


Can you post a pic of her?

And will someone please ANSWER MY ORIGINAL QUESTION ABOUT THE HOG TIE?


Thank you for your time.

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http://www.philly.com/philly/video/BC897450508001.html

theres a pic of her in this video. i just watched it again, shes not as hot in this video but ive seen other pics of her where she looks better but i can't find them. imo she looks better than any of the wives off vh1's show


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Re: The murder of Salvie Testa [Re: phatmatress] #603335
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Originally Posted By: phatmatress
http://www.philly.com/philly/video/BC897450508001.html

theres a pic of her in this video. i just watched it again, shes not as hot in this video but ive seen other pics of her where she looks better but i can't find them. imo she looks better than any of the wives off vh1's show


here's a pic of deborah merlino i think i may have gotten joeys wife and his sister mixed up
[img]http://realdeal-forum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1540&mode=view[/img]


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Re: The murder of Salvie Testa [Re: Mussolini14] #603378
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Joey with a girl like that? Meet the real life Chris and Adriana. I've seen pictures of her, but have no access to the real deal. Why do you suppose they made it invite only?

Mussolini, all I can tell you is a story about Jimmy Burke. Jimmy Burke hogtied a man who stole money from him in an attempt to torture the thief. Jimmy got bored and confused, and just ended up shooting him. However, I seriously doubt that was the case here. It must have been disrespect.

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oh sorry if u cant see it i will download it on my computer! i just got a new comp yet again today! took that piece of crap emachine back to walmart got a hp. the hp had a price tag of 348$ took it to the register rang up as $596 they gave me the $348 price because they mis marked it! go me! they made it invite only i guess to help reduce spammers and what not. they are also not very tolerant of people that don't have alot of knowledge on the mafia. ivy league got me on there. i guess he thinks i know a little bit lol. but they will rip someone to shreds for posting dumb questions or common knowledge stuff.


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Re: The murder of Salvie Testa [Re: BarrettM] #603386
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Originally Posted By: BarrettM
Joey with a girl like that? Meet the real life Chris and Adriana. I've seen pictures of her, but have no access to the real deal. Why do you suppose they made it invite only?


It's not invite only. You can request membership by sending an email to David, the administrator.


"It was between the brothers Kay -- I had nothing to do with it."
Re: The murder of Salvie Testa [Re: Mussolini14] #603387
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Joey wife and sisters did both look good at one time. They have that exotic look. Havent seen them or a recent picture though. But I believe Deborah isn't Italian. I always heard she was Philipino or something like that. Her maiden name is Wells I believe. But 10 years ago she was nice!

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Originally Posted By: BarrettM
Why do you suppose they made it invite only?


I know why. I know the real reason. PM me if you wanna hear it.

I'll give you a hint


"What is given, can be taken away. Everyone lies. Everyone dies." - Casey Anthony, in a poem, July 7, 2008
Re: The murder of Salvie Testa [Re: Mussolini14] #603400
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ha ha ha ha ha ha


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this is the pic of debroah merlino and joey's mom rita

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Re: The murder of Salvie Testa [Re: phatmatress] #603403
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vinny gourgeous's wife prob wasnt all that bad either at one time

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Re: The murder of Salvie Testa [Re: VinnyGorgeous] #603404
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Originally Posted By: VinnyGorgeous
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Why do you suppose they made it invite only?


I know why. I know the real reason. PM me if you wanna hear it.

I'll give you a hint


Seems like someone didn't get his button. wink tongue


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Originally Posted By: spmob
Joey wife and sisters did both look good at one time. They have that exotic look. Havent seen them or a recent picture though. But I believe Deborah isn't Italian. I always heard she was Philipino or something like that. Her maiden name is Wells I believe. But 10 years ago she was nice!


I think she is half Korean or Japanese, Philipino women are usually like 4ft tall, so I doubt she is that.

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Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Seems like someone didn't get his button. wink tongue


My button? lol. Is that what they're calling it now.


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vinny you fake old tough guy! you bought your fucking button you fake old tough guy you!


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Re: The murder of Salvie Testa [Re: phatmatress] #603411
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Originally Posted By: phatmatress
vinny you fake old tough guy! you bought your fucking button you fake old tough guy you!


lol lol That fuck Albert. He gave me the deal of a lifetime. I buy button for a million two and I get to make sweet love to Carlo Gambino's wife in front of Carlo. Let's face it, that's a sweet deal.


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Re: The murder of Salvie Testa [Re: BarrettM] #603519
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Originally Posted By: BarrettM
Joey with a girl like that? Meet the real life Chris and Adriana. I've seen pictures of her, but have no access to the real deal. Why do you suppose they made it invite only?

Mussolini, all I can tell you is a story about Jimmy Burke. Jimmy Burke hogtied a man who stole money from him in an attempt to torture the thief. Jimmy got bored and confused, and just ended up shooting him. However, I seriously doubt that was the case here. It must have been disrespect.



That's what I thought becaue him and his father Phil were known to wear the cowboy hats so I always thought the reason they hog tied his body was in order to mock him and his cowboy style.

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Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Originally Posted By: BarrettM
Joey with a girl like that? Meet the real life Chris and Adriana. I've seen pictures of her, but have no access to the real deal. Why do you suppose they made it invite only?


It's not invite only. You can request membership by sending an email to David, the administrator.


Sorry for going off topic. How can I find David?

It's a well known fact that Testa was widely respected, and a couple informants in their own subtle ways mourned his death. What was the deciding factor that won everyone's respect?

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I sent you a pm.


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Scarfo liked to hogtie victims, he called it cowboy style.

maybe that is why they did it to salvator Testa.


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1) Vinny Gorgeous' wife is hot

2) back in the 50's in Buffalo NY, the mobster Aquino brothers were murdered by being hogtied. From what I can remember, they had wet rawhide cords tied around their necks. They were laid down face in the trunk of the Cadillac , face down with their feet pulled up their back and the rawhide tied around their feet. As their muscles tightened up and the wet rawhide started drying out, they literally strangled themselves.
3) Vinny Gorgeous' wife is hot

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Originally Posted By: phatmatress
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Mussolini, the informant Nick Caramandi was my source. Not sure if he belonged to Salvie's crew officially, but Caramandi was taking orders from him. He implied that Salvie took loyalty to LCN to the extreme - when the Riccobene faction in a technical sense, disobeyed the family, he planned to tear them to shreds. When Enrico Riccobene (an innocent) killed himself once he heard Salvie had been looking for, he loved it. The way I see it, Salvie was absolutely about following the rules and destroying anyone who didn't. This Caramandi quote can tell you the rest.

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Salvie had nerve and he didn't care who he killed. Sometimes we used to go [on a contract] and we'd come back and tell him, "Well, the kids were in the car, the family's in the car.' "I don't care whose in the car', he'd say. 'Everybody goes.' That's the kind of guy he was. One Thanksgiving Day he wanted use to go into Sonny [Mario] Riccobene's house where Robert Riccobene was havin' dinner with his family. 'Shoot everybody in the house'. But he and Charlie [Iannece]] and Faffy [Francis Ianarella] made up some story that he didn't show up. Just to appease Salvie. 'Cause we didn't go for killing kids. It was something we drew a line with, but he (Testa) was just so full of venom that he didn't care. He was a guy made for 'this thing.' He loved it. He lived it.


i honestly can say that imo i think that caramandi maybe the most reliable snitch that the mob ever turned out. he just seems so real in interviews and dosen't seem fame seeking like sooo many others.
I agree with this. He is brutally honest and doesn't sugar coat anything or make the mob seem appealing or intriguing. He was a low life con artist but he doesn't try to rewrite history like most rats. Blood and Honor is one of the best mob books and definitely the best Philly book. I got it on nook for like $6 and downloaded it instantly BTW

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Sorry I just ment to quote the post about Nicky crow

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Once Salvie knew that Scarfo and Merlino wanted him dead, WHY didn't he at least go and try to see if Big Paul could save his life? Paul still was the recognized boss of bosses in 83-84.

I know that a boss should have the right to eliminate whoever they want in their family BUT, when Mr. Miggs was boss and wanted to eliminate Angelo Bruno, Bruno went to Carlo and VOILA, life saved!
Even though Bruno was only a capo at the time, his case was heard and Salvie definitely had a good reason to not get whacked.

In a perfect world, Big Paul could have said, "Nicky, go to florida, you are retired! and Salvie, you are now the boss!....lol. I know that would have been a long shot but,
wasn't it the Gambino's that appointed his dad?

It couldn't have hurt to try.

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