What is everyones thoughts about the premiere of Season 7 Tuesday night? Honestly I thought the episode kinda sucked, but SoA is on so I'm not griping!

Gemma is going to cause a war with the Chinese now.

I also thought Marilyn Manson sucked and I bet Courtney Love as a Kindergarten teacher does too

The season opener was not one of the best episodes that I've seen from SOA, but that scene where that dragged that banger behind a motorcycle was just too good. As for Gemma, she is one cold witch..she would scare the Chin.

I loved the first episode. Grizzly and not wasting any time in getting into the thick of it. I'm looking forward to the scene when Jax finds out it was Gemma who killed Tara.

Besides Gemma causing a war with the Triads , what about the causes of the Grim Bastards prospect/members being killed? Is that going to effect the SOA down the road as well? Also, the scene with the reverends in bed......
That's going to bite them lightly possibly.

That scene with the Reverands was nasty . Like Dixie i wasn't too impressed with the episode but didn't think it was terrible either. It really annoys me that Katey Sagal is Sutters wife, Gemma should've been long dead by now . All i'm wondering now is whether Jax will be killed or not. That's the only thing that really bothered me about The Shield that Vic wasn't jailed or killed at the end.

I think Vic's fate in The Shield was just about as bad as being jailed or killed. He was forced to be a desk stooge (something he always despised) and had no real clout - which is why he walked out. And nobody else was going to hire him. He loved the authority that came from being a member of law enforcement and now that was gone.

I understand that's what the writers were going for, that Vic not being a cop on the street is worse than being in jail. If that was the case though why did Vic not just reject the offer and go to prison? Also it's ridiculous to believe that this would be worse than prison for him, he would've been manhandled in prison being an ex-cop and all. I did like the way they handled the rest of the STRIKE team though, Shanes fate in particular was messed up.

If things continue as they have been, I won't be surprised if the body count in this final season of SoA equals all the rest combined.

Last night's show was absolutely brutal from an action standpoint and from a backstabbing/doublecrossing standpoint. Jax, much like Michael Corleone, has become what he hated most...just like his father and worse...very interesting from a psych point of view....great writing..the only thing that I can use less of is the OVER the TOP sexually explicit talk and visuals...but overall, you have to hand it to Kurt Sutter for both his writing and for marrying way over his head!

Thought the first episode wasn't so great. I THINK IT IS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE GEMMA IS KILLED. JAXS' DEATH WILL PROBABLY BE NEAR THE CONCLUSION. NOW WONDERING WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THEO ROSSI'S CARACHTER.

I have been bored so far this season and I've watched this show since the beginning. Just too much killing for me and not enough drama like the past seasons. It's like Sutter is just killing everyone to kill them off.

Crazy enough bigboy I think Juice actually lives through this and might be the only one to live.

I also think Jax finds out about Gemma, disowns her again, then she loses Nero, and she kills herself.

Just my thoughts.

Hope you are right. I don't remember what Juices' "Old sin" was- was it the time he hid the dope from the club ?? Getting old sucks- you can't remember anything

I was right. Killing the preacher came back around and it's officially a war with the Triads. They lost 1 member compared to the dozens of members the triad lost. Have anybody been able to keep up with the body count?

People on another forum were also complaining about too much killing and it being unrealistic. My take is, when has the show ever been that realistic? A biker gang with compunctions about drug trafficking and progressive views on race? C'mon. SoA has just always been a "fun" show not to be taken too seriously. As for the "drama," with key characters like Clay and Tara gone, there isn't much left for the personal side of things. I like that Sutter isn't wasting any time in this final season and is just going all out. The only remaining personal drama I think we'll see is when Jax finally finds out the truth about Gemma. That will be the big payoff everyone is waiting for.



He accidentally spilled the beans about that girl he smothered on Jax's orders (the blonde drug addict that Nero was close to) which caused tension between Jax and Nero.



I've lost count but, if things continue the way they've been going, this last season body count will probably equal all the rest combined.

I will admit though the last episode was finally good. All the others were too predictable. Even though cutting down 10 women and throwing the grenades in the middle of town is still too much, the show was good. I finally felt there was a show this year that had a plot and not just a killing show.

Great show with great twists and subplots, but the killing is really reaching unimaginable levels. By the way, do u recall the bag lady that saw Juice throwing away the evidence of Tara's killing?...what do u think became of her and will she reappear?

You know oldschool I do remember that but who knows. Sutter has always been known to screw with folks so who knows, maybe Juice works his way back into the club only to be indicted when the junky testifies and Juice is finally killed? Maybe he takes the whole bunch down?

Lots of crazy ways to take it. If anyone watched The Shield it was the same way and same style. They would give you about 3 different ways things would end and you hardly had an idea or hint on which way they were taking it.

Nobody thought Vic would take a deal at the end of The Shield so who knows.

The Shield was better managed than Sons of Anarchy imo, Sutter is a very good writer but this last season has seemed pointless so far. All we're watching is the build up to Jax's death and his discovery of the truth behind Tara's murder. At this point the most interesting people in the series are, Tig, Chibs, Bobby, Happy, etc.

Ivy is right, the show has never been realistic but there's a point when suspension of disbelief fizzles out, and the first four episodes of this season has more than took care of that. The worst thing about it is that every episode of this season has been incredibly boring imo at least.

Oh I agree with you there, even I have said on the other board Ivy is talking about that very same thing that it was boring and I myself was bored and I've watched this series since the very first episode.

The last episode is the only one I've said "damn good show" so far and that was only because of Venus/Tig and the drama at the end.

Anything with Walton Goggins works for me, but at first it was supposed to be a joke that Tig is that weird, now it's evolved into a romance between them; just creeps me out.

Again i think Ivy was right, in saying that Sutter is throwing everything at the last season. The problem is that there's Nine episodes left and the War with the Chinese doesn't work imo. If it was a war with the Mayans or the Nazis it would be more effective, since there is established problems between them. Starting a brand new feud in the last season is a mistake imo, and i'm getting less interested every episode.

Supposedly,Gemma is going to personally help Juice blow town.Then we see then both packing silenced pistols.
Add this to next weeks preview when Juice says to Gemma "we did this",(or words to that effect),and we are led to believe that
there will be a final showdown between the two of them.

Now having said that,I know from experience that "scenes from next week" whether it be Boardwalk Empire,Sopranos,or Sons,never
play out the way we expect,so what do you guys think will really happen?

Juice has to know that Gemma wants him dead to preserve her secret.His street sense tells him that her offer to help is a setup for his murder.

Possible outcomes:
1) Gemma kills Juice.
2)Juice kills Gemma and forever destroys his chance of getting back in Jax's good graces.
3) Both survive next week's episode.
4) Both fire at the same time and kill each other.
5) None of the above

So let's have a little fun and speculate. What's your best guess on next week's episode?

3 - Both survive. It's too early for either to die imo, but i think both will eventually. Wayne or Chibs are the most likely to die or at least get shot next week, in the next 2 or 3 episodes they have to kill someone that matters to properly set up the rest of the season. I think it will be Chibs first, possibly with Juice' involvement.

Seriously? to early for Juice to die? he should've been dead at least two seasons ago. Just me but i think he's the least interesting character on the whole show. i wish it was his neck that snapped and not the tree branch when he tried to hang himself...

If Juice dies then it only leaves the Tara story, Juice should've died way back in Season 3 when he tried to hang himself i agree. At this point there's only Juice, Gemma and a random storyline like the war with the Triads to go on. So yes, Juice should survive for now at least imo.

Since we're on the topic of different characters...what is or has been the purpose of fat Bobby Elvis..he does nothing, but all seems tired. I don't see what his character has added to the show at all.

Bobby has been portrayed by Sutter as the "voice of reason",the guy who always does what is best for the Club. He was the only "no" vote when Jax wanted to have Clay killed the first time. He always seems to be saving Jax from himself.

So here is my off the wall,whackadoo guess for Bobby's fate:

At some point,the Club finds out that Gemma killed Tara and started the war with the Chinese. On top of that,we have the insane blood lust that has infected Jax.
My scenario is that Jax dies at the hand of Bobby,who then becomes the Prez. I envision either a meeting of the Table(minus Jax) in which the Club finally realizes that Jax and Gemma will get them all killed,and passes a death sentence on Jax,or a scene where Bobby (after a touching final speech)tells Jax that he's doing what is best for both Jax and the Club,and shoots him.

Well Lou that's as good an explanation as I've heard. I know that Sutter wanted him to be the level headed one, but it just seemed like he has had a very very limited role...and he always seems like he's been up all night working...when we know he hasn't done anything.....except eat

I say 3 as well. As odd as this sounds, I think Juice survives the whole show.

My heart broke when I seen Abel holding that hammer last night.

Juice won't shoot Gemma. Another boring episode IMHO.