I would contend most of Las Vegas fits that bill. The mob has been replaced by the MBAs, and their Excel spreadsheets have ruined everything from the table odds to the buffets.
If one is thinking of visiting, I can meet you at the airport, and you can give me half of what you were going to spend. It would save you from the watered down drinks, drunken frat boys, and overpriced buffets.
I would contend most of Las Vegas fits that bill. The mob has been replaced by the MBAs, and their Excel spreadsheets have ruined everything from the table odds to the buffets.
If one is thinking of visiting, I can meet you at the airport, and you can give me half of what you were going to spend. It would save you from the watered down drinks, drunken frat boys, and overpriced buffets.
Good post. Vegas was the first town that jumped into my mind.
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Re: Most overrated tourist attractions
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Well London is a very popular tourist attraction and there are fascinating places to see, it is just so damn busy, you cant get anywhere near anything. I like to wander in my own time in relative peace and quiet, I hate to be hurried and rushed.
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I'd have to agree with you on London, far too busy. The best city i have been to would have too be Sydney, for a major city it was quite calm and not full of tourists..
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new York city, hands down. everything cost a fortune.hotel rooms, food, no matter where you go everybody wants a tip. it sees as though everybody in that city is a beggar.
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Don't be so damn cheap. You know the person getting drinks served at the table constantly all night? That's me. You know the person not getting the watered down drinks? That's me. Even when it's an open bar, give them money and get your drinks the way you want, they make a big deal over you. The person who's car sits front and center in front of the valet so they can keep an eye on it? Me. Why? Because we know how to treat people with tips. Throw them some money and you get vip treatment all night. If you have to worry yourself over tipping, you can't afford to be out to begin with. Stay home.
As far as Vegas goes being a tourist trap. I disagree. I'm more than happy to pay 200/table to sit in vip at Pure nightclub at Caesar's, my drinks don't get watered down...and buffet? I don't even know what that is. Not even to mention the gambling.
Not everyone can live the high life like you, Carmela.
It's not the high life to be able to give extra $20 so the drink server keeps coming around to you all night, etc. That's all it takes and they'll treat you right. But wondering and calculating if you should give a dollar here or dollar there, better off stay home.
Yes, you should tip the drink server separately. When you go to a wedding, YES, you SHOULD give your table server a tip for the table. This should be common etiquette.
new York city, hands down. everything cost a fortune.hotel rooms, food, no matter where you go everybody wants a tip. it sees as though everybody in that city is a beggar.
Then by all means, stay in California. With the liberals. And the gang bangers. And the illegal Mexicans. And everything else that's wrong with that insane asylum you call home. I'll stay in New York City with the rest of the beggars .
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Not everyone can live the high life like you, Carmela.
It's not the high life to be able to give extra $20 so the drink server keeps coming around to you all night, etc. That's all it takes and they'll treat you right. But wondering and calculating if you should give a dollar here or dollar there, better off stay home.
Yes, you should tip the drink server separately. When you go to a wedding, YES, you SHOULD give your table server a tip for the table. This should be common etiquette.
I'm talking about just going in to bars and getting a Bud on tap. I'm just a poor college student.
And when going for meals, I only tip if the service is exemplary. Too many people in that industry don't even have basic manners so why reward them when there are plenty of polite people who would love to have their job.
I know a girl who got over a $1,000 worth of tips on St Patrick's Day. It's like winning the lottery with some of these people. Watching the cash roll in but they are not doing anything special to warrant it.
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Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Originally Posted By: carmela
Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Not everyone can live the high life like you, Carmela.
It's not the high life to be able to give extra $20 so the drink server keeps coming around to you all night, etc. That's all it takes and they'll treat you right. But wondering and calculating if you should give a dollar here or dollar there, better off stay home.
Yes, you should tip the drink server separately. When you go to a wedding, YES, you SHOULD give your table server a tip for the table. This should be common etiquette.
I'm talking about just going in to bars and getting a Bud on tap. I'm just a poor college student.
And when going for meals, I only tip if the service is exemplary. Too many people in that industry don't even have basic manners so why reward them when there are plenty of polite people who would love to have their job.
I know a girl who got over a $1,000 worth of tips on St Patrick's Day. It's like winning the lottery with some of these people. Watching the cash roll in but they are not doing anything special to warrant it.
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Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
It's like winning the lottery with some of these people. Watching the cash roll in but they are not doing anything special to warrant it.
straight from the mouth of someone who has probably never worked a day in the service industry. don't have enough money to throw the bartender $1 a bottle for your already cheap macro lager, stay home and grab a 30pk!
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It's part of the national fabric here, Moe. That's just the way it is. I personally find the non-tipping culture in Europe strange. I guess it's just where you were raised.
Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
but I personally know bastards that were making thousands in tips.
That doesn't bother me nearly as much as a reality television star making more money than a heart surgeon.
Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
but I personally know bastards that were making thousands in tips.
It's all relative. Living in New York City is expensive. In Manhattan it's outright insane.
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Don't get me wrong now. I do tip over here but only if the waiter/waitress was polite.
And tipping is common enough here but I suppose it's not as widespread or ingrained as NY.
It's funny. I just had a college lecture this week about this exact same subject and it was interesting hearing it from a French, South Africa, German or Spanish perspective.
Supposedly, the Spaniards are the worst at tipping abroad.
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Only place I knew that could charge $30-$100 cover, $12-$20 for a cocktail and would run a $100K operating loss a night.
I just told you I was there last september. So are you saying they're closed now, or what? By the way,they didn't charge me anything to come in. $200 for the table and drinks all night.
And when I tip people like drink servers, and such, it's exactly like FF just said...to insure promptness and good service. That's why everybody else is waiting on their drinks in their plastic cups and I get mine before I can even finish the first one, served in glass. That's the way I want to be treated so it's worth it to us.
Pure is closed. There's an arms race for DJs, and the plug got pulled when it started costing $100K a night just for a DJ.
The problem isn't putting down a few hundred dollars for a night at a high-end club, nor is it tipping the servers to ensure service. The problem is the absolute contempt that casino management has for guests, from the dishonest resort fees, the 6:5 blackjack or the liquor swap.
Only place I knew that could charge $30-$100 cover, $12-$20 for a cocktail and would run a $100K operating loss a night.
You grew up in Vegas, witnessed the changes firsthand, and this surprises you?
In another recent thread we were discussing the Revel in Atlantic City. They tried to operate a casino using the exact opposite of the model for that business. They thought they could make it on food and booze, and that the gambling was the gravy. They lasted all of two years.
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new York city, hands down. everything cost a fortune.hotel rooms, food, no matter where you go everybody wants a tip. it sees as though everybody in that city is a beggar.
Then by all means, stay in California. With the liberals. And the gang bangers. And the illegal Mexicans. And everything else that's wrong with that insane asylum you call home. I'll stay in New York City with the rest of the beggars . I left California in 1968 and moved far north, where I am now. haven't been back to California in 46 years. I love the far north its much, much cheaper to live than n.y. or calif. there are 5 lakes within 6 miles where I live. and hardly any crime. the scenery is gorgeous and in the winter lots of sking. I know 2 n.y. couples who moved up here and they love it. one has a deli and serves food like n,y. great people. they told me. they don't miss the city at all. believe it or not there are other cities in this country. new York is only for new Yorkers. there is a whole new world when you leave it for the far north country.
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