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Most overrated mob hitman? #802092
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Who do you all feel is an individual that often gets included on people's list when discussing mob hitman with high body counts that doesnt really belong?

Re: Most overrated mob hitman? [Re: Krsheely] #802093
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Re: Most overrated mob hitman? [Re: alexandarns] #802096
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If you're reading and writing about them, that means they're overrated wink.


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Re: Most overrated mob hitman? [Re: pizzaboy] #802188
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
If you're reading and writing about them, that means they're overrated wink.
pb, could very well be. but, of those that are written about. most are exaggerating the numbers. kuklinski is an example.



" watch what you say around this guy, he's got a big mouth" sam giancana to an outfit soldier about frank Sinatra. [ from the book "my way"
Re: Most overrated mob hitman? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #802189
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
If you're reading and writing about them, that means they're overrated wink.
pb, could very well be. but, of those that are written about. most are exaggerating the numbers. kuklinski is an example.

I hear you. I just can't stand the word "hitman." It's like the fucking boogeyman or something like that. If you're a made guy and you get an order to kill someone, you do it, or you get killed yourself. But the other 364 days a year these so-called "hitmen" are just a bunch of neighborhood mopes who were born without a conscience, so they have no compunction about pulling the trigger when they're told to do so.


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Re: Most overrated mob hitman? [Re: Krsheely] #802195
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John Gotti. After the Mcbratney hit, everyone paid 'homage to him' as Sal Polisi put it. Truth was, he wasn't even the trigger man

Second has to be Chin Gigante. His failed hit on Frank turned him into a mob superstar. Especially the trial and media coverage

Re: Most overrated mob hitman? [Re: pizzaboy] #802198
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pizza , well said..every made guy is "tough" they have the power to get you killed, closer to the boss that a guy is, can get someone killed faster..in every family there is a crew that does work for the boss..these guys get the call more often then others.. graven the devil was charged with 19, but pulled the trigger once..was he tough ? did he have the most bodies ?or just in the right spot to get people killed..when does a person become a serial killer? i.e. demeo.pitera . tough topic for a true answer..guys can go there whole lives in the mafia , maybe on one murder and be feared forever..

Re: Most overrated mob hitman? [Re: Tonytough] #802199
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very true tony

Re: Most overrated mob hitman? [Re: bronx] #802203
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Originally Posted By: bronx
pizza , well said.

Meh. You and I are usually in agreement because we're both old men who've seen some of this shit in real life lol.

But thanks grin.


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Re: Most overrated mob hitman? [Re: Krsheely] #802204
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Bronx, Well that is one of the biggest misconception of the Mob. People think that everybody in it has to have killed someone in order to be starightened out. Such a false belief. Yeah, we all know they have shooters but the Mob is all about making money. Period

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Re: Most overrated mob hitman? [Re: pizzaboy] #802213
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your correct, and everything hurts more everyday

Re: Most overrated mob hitman? [Re: Beanshooter] #802214
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the 80"s was a time when the mafia went off track..in sicily riina was killing everyone..philly you had nicky, ducks guys you had vic and gas, you had gotti,graven, colombos always at war and had scarpa another devil killing anyone.. bonanos ,messina killing 3 well respected captains.then sonny black. they all killed guys in their own crews..it was like these guys are showing the other families they can kill better..huge waste of lives. that decade was a disaster for cosa nostra.must have been something in the water from here to sicily..chin kept his group in check..

Re: Most overrated mob hitman? [Re: Krsheely] #802216
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Bronx, in your opinion why was Sonny Black killed? And why did they cut off his hands?

Re: Most overrated mob hitman? [Re: bronx] #802221
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Originally Posted By: bronx
your correct, and everything hurts more everyday

Yeah, it sucks.


"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
Re: Most overrated mob hitman? [Re: Beanshooter] #802228
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pure power play by fat joe..would not to surprised if gotti pushed him into hitting him..the hands is a mystery to me.shame.. he was a tough guy, well liked

Re: Most overrated mob hitman? [Re: Krsheely] #802232
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Thats what Massino said in his testimony. I too believe thats why it happened and not how Pistone paints it. The hands supposedly was to make it hard to identify the body. Thank you

Re: Most overrated mob hitman? [Re: Beanshooter] #802234
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Originally Posted By: Beanshooter
The hands supposedly was to make it hard to identify the body.

Wouldn't make a difference today with DNA and all.

As far as why? Who the fuck knows. But it's not like they pulled his teeth, so I doubt it was for identification purposes. Then again, these guys aren't rocket scientists. Maybe they never heard of dental records lol.


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Re: Most overrated mob hitman? [Re: Krsheely] #802235
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LOL That makes sense PB thanks

Re: Most overrated mob hitman? [Re: Beanshooter] #802236
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Originally Posted By: Beanshooter
LOL That makes sense PB thanks

I want you to know that I realize it took a lot of self control on your part to refrain from using an exclamation point there whistle.

Thank you!!!!

lol lol


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Re: Most overrated mob hitman? [Re: Krsheely] #802238
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Re: Most overrated mob hitman? [Re: Krsheely] #802241
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Lol - PB you sound just like my Pops when I would ask him questions answering my question with another question
Bronx same thing, everything is a mystery
Beanshooter, his hands were chopped off for a reason.

HK was there a message behind his hit?

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speak louder i can't hear you in the dark LOL

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Originally Posted By: bronx
speak louder i can't hear you in the dark LOL

What'd you say?


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Bronx and PB "Don't make me go over there and teach you boys a lesson" I gotta lot of JetBlue free miles lol

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you need a permit to come up to the bronx..no points accepted here..jetblue is running some good specials now..

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Originally Posted By: bronx
you need a permit to come up to the bronx..no points accepted here..jetblue is running some good specials now..


Lol permit yea I gotta permit... a permit to go over there and teach you a lesson

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i'm movin.. nuevo laredo..safer there.

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Yea much safer there. Orelay vato!

Re: Most overrated mob hitman? [Re: bronx] #802276
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Originally Posted By: bronx
pizza , well said..every made guy is "tough" they have the power to get you killed, closer to the boss that a guy is, can get someone killed faster..in every family there is a crew that does work for the boss..these guys get the call more often then others.. graven the devil was charged with 19, but pulled the trigger once..was he tough ? did he have the most bodies ?or just in the right spot to get people killed..when does a person become a serial killer? i.e. demeo.pitera . tough topic for a true answer..guys can go there whole lives in the mafia , maybe on one murder and be feared forever..


What makes you think gravano only pulled the trigger once? His book painted him out to be an angel

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Originally Posted By: Tonytough
John Gotti. After the Mcbratney hit, everyone paid 'homage to him' as Sal Polisi put it. Truth was, he wasn't even the trigger man

Second has to be Chin Gigante. His failed hit on Frank turned him into a mob superstar. Especially the trial and media coverage



Nobody claimed those two were notorious hitmen. Plus you assume those were the only times they resorted to violence

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