Forget downtown NYC and Italian, unless you count kids who grew up in the suburbs and moved here that have Italian last names. But those kind of people don't consider them Italian in the sense you're thinking. And they definitely don't think they are trying to make it an italin demographic. They're just American kids.

Exactly. I remember when Sofia Coppola bought a high end condo off Spring Street. She went on and on in one of the real estate magazines about "keeping the culture alive" and all the usual Hollywood crap. Like she didn't grow up Hollywood fucking royalty in California. It didn't even occur to her that people like her were the ones driving Italian Americans out of the neighborhood who lived there for fifty years.

Oh, and she's sold it since then. At a tremendous profit.

But you do realize that the Italians that you pointed out to your kids don't actually still live there, right?

2010 Census: Not a SINGLE Italian born resident left in the 10012 zip code. And the populace itself was less than ten percent Italian American. And that was almost five years ago.

You know I make my living in New York City real estate these days, so I pay very close attention to demographics. Now some people might thing that's being bigoted, but any intelligent landlord does the same thing.

Anyway, a studio on Mulberry and Grand will run you about $2500 a month today. A fucking studio. If you doubt that, take a gander at Craigslist or one of the big real estate sites like Elliman or Corcoran. What immigrant can afford that? And when you couple that with the fact that there aren't really Italians moving to the United States anymore, is it any wonder that things have changed?


Smaller every day. Even restaurant row has shrunk to Mulberry between Canal and Kenmare. And Kenmare is honestly stretching things.

Before everyone gets all indignant, assimilation isn't the worst thing in the world. Living in nice houses is a cool thing.

Before everyone gets all indignant, assimilation isn't the worst thing in the world. Living in nice houses is a cool thing.

I'm just taking an educated guess, but I'd assume it has gotten noticeably more Asian and less Italian in the last six years. But I'll wait for PB for a definitive answer.

Thats so racist.

Lol, you're kidding right?

Ya got me

Though one could certainly make an argument about the quality of those new recruits.

To clarify though, there is no solution. It is over. Forever.

And fuck the Red Sox. I'm going to to bed.