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Re: Outfit/Panozzo bust [Re: funkster] #793650
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Yeah Scott best not to respond to trolls here like you did on the real deal forum. It just fuels them. You're the best man, keep it up.

Re: Outfit/Panozzo bust [Re: HuronSocialAthletic] #793825
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Originally Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic
^lol. No one plays for free in Chicago. These guys have been working for Lombardo & Vena for ages & ages.

This is why made men in Chicago insulate the shit out of themselves. And it works, for the most part. It takes a guy who was privy to top shelf information (Mario Rainone, Bill Jahoda) getting fucked over by them & turning witness, or a bone-headed false move (Lombardo & the Seifert thing, Marcello stupidly confiding in Nick Calabrese), or just plain stupidity (Frank Calabrese) in order to take a made Chicago guy down.

If you think for a second Koroluk & Panozzo weren't kicking up tribute on the oodles upon oodles of profits they were generating, you're dead wrong. These are the same rackets & schemes that Joe Lombardo & his crew were operating back in the day. The crimes & set ups are almost identical. This has always been the Grand Avenue Crews bread & butter. It's just the names & faces are different today.

It's like people are expecting a wiretap with Panozzo pledging allegiance to the Grand Avenue Crew, or for Albie Vena or Bobby Dominic to be caught red handed, draped up in task force garb "ya got me!".



most of them were hoping and wishing that grand avenue was defunct or white collar

it obviously ain't the case

Re: Outfit/Panozzo bust [Re: funkster] #793841
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Not really.

Granted, it's clear these guys have deep Outfit connections, and it would appear there is the great possibility that this is Outfit-related.

But is it really an Outfit "scam?"

Even if thieves, etc., etc. are kicking up, to me, that isn't really an Outfit scam. It just means the people are paying protection money.

Which, in this case, begs the question: Why?

When's the last time anyone was killed, or even suspected to be killed, by the Grand Avenue crew?

Criminals tend to be extremely greedy. They don't share their cash unless there is a damn good reason.

With the Outfit essentially adopting a nonviolence policy, why would any thief kick up? Just playing devil's advocate.

In terms of Lombardo, as far as I know he wasn't arrested for any street stuff since the 60s when he was making his bones.

Since the 70s he was arrested for very large-scale scams, schemes and rackets, like bribing US senators, embezzling Teamsters funds and skims.

Anyway, it doesn't look like we're going to learn much more about this, and I doubt anyone talks, either.

Re: Outfit/Panozzo bust [Re: funkster] #793848
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Lombardo stopped getting arrested for street shit when he in his 40s/50s. As did Vena. As did Spilotro. As did nearly every other made guy in Chicago Outfit history. Again, this is the benefit & motive for becoming a made man: cut your teeth & gruel it out for years & years, until you're ready to be made & receive a crew of soldiers that will do the dirty work in your name & pay tribute to you. Dunno what is so difficult to understand about this.

The soldiers pay tax out of respect & honour. These are guys That Have been following guys like Albie & Spina around like sheep since they were teenagers.

The Grand Avenue Crew is obviously still capable of violence. Panozzo & Koroluk were kicking in people's doors & beating them down. That's the Outfit, Panozzo & Koroluk. These are their soldiers in 2014. Albie Vena & Pete Difronzo (insert long time made man here) aren't going to be doing street work anymore.

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Re: Outfit/Panozzo bust [Re: HuronSocialAthletic] #793871
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Originally Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic
Lombardo stopped getting arrested for street shit when he in his 40s/50s. As did Vena. As did Spilotro. As did nearly every other made guy in Chicago Outfit history. Again, this is the benefit & motive for becoming a made man: cut your teeth & gruel it out for years & years, until you're ready to be made & receive a crew of soldiers that will do the dirty work in your name & pay tribute to you. Dunno what is so difficult to understand about this.

The soldiers pay tax out of respect & honour. These are guys That Have been following guys like Albie & Spina around like sheep since they were teenagers.

The Grand Avenue Crew is obviously still capable of violence. Panozzo & Koroluk were kicking in people's doors & beating them down. That's the Outfit, Panozzo & Koroluk. These are their soldiers in 2014. Albie Vena & Pete Difronzo (insert long time made man here) aren't going to be doing street work anymore.

Not to mention cutting people's ears off.

Re: Outfit/Panozzo bust [Re: funkster] #794910
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http://www.suntimes.com/29099073-761/inf...ml#.U-V6W_k7tNZ

Informant says Outfit burglar bragged of murder, but autopsy raises questions

BY FRANK MAIN Staff Reporter August 8, 2014 5:55PM

Updated: August 8, 2014 8:38PM

Did reputed Outfit burglar Robert “Bobby” Panozzo really kill an elderly lady by tossing her down her stairs again and again and again?

According to a government informant, cited in a court filing, Panozzo claimed he pushed the woman down the stairs three times until she died after he and a pal conned her into signing over her property.

Panozzo supposedly joked about how hard it was to kill an elderly woman.

But Cook County medical examiner’s records say the woman — Lydia Minnici — died of natural causes on Dec. 17, 1987, in her home at 2347 W. Ohio. She didn’t have a bruise on her body, according to an autopsy report reviewed by the Chicago Sun-Times.

Investigators are now left to sort out whether the informant’s harrowing tale is true.

It was included in a 63-page affidavit a Chicago Police detective filed in Cook County Criminal Court last month to obtain a warrant to search the homes of Panozzo and four other defendants in a racketeering investigation.

Panozzo, 54, and co-defendant Paul Koroluk, 55, are allegedly tied to Albert “Little Guy” Vena, the reputed capo of the Grand Avenue mob. They’re considered leaders of a crew involved in murder, drug rip-offs, insurance fraud, kidnapping and prostitution, Cook County prosecutors say.

The brazen Panozzo-Koroluk crew even burglarized police officers’ homes to steal badges they later used to pose as cops while committing other crimes, the affidavit said. But one of the most stunning allegations in the case — dubbed Operation Crew Cut — involves Minnici’s supposed murder, which investigators haven’t confirmed, sources say.

Cook County property records show she signed a quit-claim deed on Oct. 19, 1987, giving Panozzo’s friend Steven Brantner the right to take possession of the home when she died. When she died almost two months later, Brantner became the owner.

The autopsy report said Minnici died of arteriosclerotic cardiovascular disease — heart disease. She “was found unresponsive in bed, demonstrating no skin bruising,” the report said.

According to medical examiner’s records, an unidentified friend found her body in bed and called 911. She was wearing brown trousers, two shirts and brown socks.

Minnici was just 4-foot-6 and weighed only 75 pounds with her clothes on. Investigators were unable to locate any of Minnici’s family members. A neighbor described her as a “loner” who lived in the building for about 1½ years.

Minnici was “somewhat older looking than the stated age of 58 years,” the autopsy report said. Other public records list her as being either 77 or 88 when she died.

Brantner, a convicted burglar, was killed almost four years after Minnici died. On Oct. 14, 1991, he was shot twice in the chest at 2035 W. Ohio in the Chicago Outfit stronghold called “The Patch.”

Medical examiner records say Panozzo discovered Brantner’s body lying in the street and drove him to the hospital. The records described Panozzo as a friend of the 33-year-old Brantner.

Brantner, who was dressed in a black jacket, a black T-shirt and blue jeans when he was killed, had about $23 in his pockets. He also had “multiple possible chronic needle tracks” on his arms, indicating he was a heroin user.

Medical examiner’s records said Brantner was a property rehabber, but sources said he was a narcotics addict and dealer. He may have been killed in a dispute over a “street tax” mobsters were charging him on his drug sales, sources said. No one was arrested in his murder.

Sources say the informant who provided the story about Minnici’s death is Jeffrey Hollinghead — listed in the case as “Individual H,” who was facing kidnapping charges when he decided to cooperate with investigators against Panozzo and the rest of the alleged crew.

Hollinghead was arrested in 2009 for his role in kidnapping a wheelchair-bound gang member to obtain a ransom. He was sentenced last year to 15 years in prison.

Re: Outfit/Panozzo bust [Re: funkster] #794949
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Right down the block from Lombardo's old house.

Re: Outfit/Panozzo bust [Re: funkster] #794972
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Had a feeling the murder story was BS.

Re: Outfit/Panozzo bust [Re: funkster] #799150
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2 more charged in Operation Crew Cut racketeering
Updated: August 28, 2014 6:40PM

Two felons have joined five other defendants in a major racketeering case targeting an Outfit-connected crew accused of home invasions, armed robberies, burglaries, insurance fraud, prostitution, arson and a plot to murder a witness.

Jeffrey Hollinghead and Willie Feliciano, both 48, were ordered held without bond Thursday.

They’ve been charged in Operation Crew Cut, which was unveiled in July when longtime convicted burglars Robert Panozzo and Paul Koroluk were charged along with Maher “Max” Abuhabsah; Koroluk’s wife, Maria Koroluk; and Panozzo’s son, Robert.

Panozzo and Koroluk are allegedly tied to Albert “Little Guy” Vena, the reputed head of the Grand Avenue mob. Abuhabsah was the technological mastermind of the group, prosecutors said.

Hollinghead was arrested in 2009 for his role in kidnapping a wheelchair-bound gang member to obtain a ransom. He was sentenced last year to 15 years in prison for that crime.

He and Panozzo discussed arranging the murder of the victim of the kidnapping case, prosecutors said.

Hollinghead started cooperating with investigators against Panozzo and the rest of the crew in November, just before he pleaded guilty in the kidnapping case, sources said.

Feliciano, a convicted burglar and thief, is accused of setting fire to a stolen vehicle with at least one other member of the conspiracy.

Feliciano was already in the Cook County Jail on separate stolen-vehicle charges.


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Re: Outfit/Panozzo bust [Re: funkster] #799177
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Hollinghead's credibility is already being hurt here with the claim about the old lady.

Interesting to read about Branter. There was a whole crew of guys in that neighborhood who were selling/using heroin - and were killed - Sam Taglia being one of them. I really think Albie and his crew were doing to the local drug dealers in the early 90s what the "Wild Bunch" under Harry Aleman were doing to bookies in the 70s - getting them all "in line."

Re: Outfit/Panozzo bust [Re: funkster] #799178
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Wild Bunch under Joe Nick you mean

Re: Outfit/Panozzo bust [Re: funkster] #799179
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Wild Bunch under Joe Nick you mean

Re: Outfit/Panozzo bust [Re: funkster] #799185
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I think your probably right ChiTown, and this is just one crew of Grand Ave. As for anyone not thinking this is outfit related, Panozzo and Koroluk have been around grand a long time. Long enough ago to go out on a burglary with the Clown. Panozzo and Koroluk run their own crew and kick up, just like in every crime family in the world, money flows up and shit rolls down hill. lol

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