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Re: Is there any way to defeat ELSUR?
[Re: mulberry]
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They have parabolic microphones that can record you from hundreds of yards away. And that's only what they've made public . The technology that the general public is aware of is probably five or ten years behind what the Feds actually have in their arsenal.
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Re: Is there any way to defeat ELSUR?
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no doubt they have the technology, but I'm not so sure they're ready to start sticking the NSA on wiseguys just yet. I didn't say that. But just imagine if Gotti was still strutting around Prince Street and sticking it to the Feds in this day and age with that arrogance and just-try-to-convict-me attitude. They'd have fucking drones on Mulberry Street before Sinatra got through one verse of "My Way."
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Re: Is there any way to defeat ELSUR?
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this thread makes me think of that movie "enemy of the state" with gene hackman and will smith, maybe you've seen it, anyway I'm not trying to compare real life to a movie, but i always thought that was a pretty good example of what the federal govt was really capable of, and that movie was like 20 years ago so things have only increased dramatically since then. EXACTLY!! That movie was like twenty years ago .
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Re: Is there any way to defeat ELSUR?
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I thought that is what the bosses do nowadays at meetings - they literally write down what they are saying and destroy the notes as they have their conversation. Who says they can spell?
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Re: Is there any way to defeat ELSUR?
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massino had a smart way for meeting get on a plane and go over seas.
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Re: Is there any way to defeat ELSUR?
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They've got this contraption they install on a cell tower, it out powers any signal around so every phone hunts for and will automatically lock onto this particular signal. Now they've got your LTE/4G quality audio at their disposal. So if you try and outsmart them with a burner phone and they already have known samples of your voice, they can find you talking on that burner using voice recognition in about 10 seconds. Scary shit
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Re: Is there any way to defeat ELSUR?
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They've got this contraption they install on a cell tower, it out powers any signal around so every phone hunts for and will automatically lock onto this particular signal. Now they've got your LTE/4G quality audio at their disposal. So if you try and outsmart them with a burner phone and they already have known samples of your voice, they can find you talking on that burner using voice recognition in about 10 seconds. Scary shit Exactly. If the general public can pay for 4G, that means the government is already up to 8G .
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Re: Is there any way to defeat ELSUR?
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07/20/14 02:03 PM
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Well for all that Crea's been on the street since 06.
Half the heavy statesman for the Westside havent done any time of note in a decade.
So maybe those Cellphone-drone-NSA spy sha-dazzle isnt actually all its cracked up to be?
Proof is in the pudding as they say. I think that's because they've adapted a bit and pulled it in a notch, especially with the violence. If people were still getting whacked like back in the '70s and '80s, more administration members would be in the joint right now. No doubt in my mind.
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Re: Is there any way to defeat ELSUR?
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I think that's because they've adapted a bit and pulled it in a notch, especially with the violence.
If people were still getting whacked like back in the '70s and '80s, more administration members would be in the joint right now. Thats it in a nutshell imo. Fed intervention is linked directly to the body count. No bodies, and the Fed seems to turn a relative blind eye.
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Re: Is there any way to defeat ELSUR?
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The lack of bodies helps, but you have to consider 9/11 too. Without that, they'd have more attention. They certainly benefited from 9/11 (as awful as that sounds), but mob murders are waaaaay down. The Feds can turn it on like a light switch if they so desire. And if they start killing each other willy nilly again, they will. That's why the smarter bosses and skippers (like the Westside and the Luccheses) are content with the status quo. You rock that boat and you're grabbing a tiger by the tail.
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Re: Is there any way to defeat ELSUR?
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It seems weird to me that a criminal organization that extorts other criminals can do so without violence. How do they get away with it,pb? Just going on past rep? Well, first of all, they're not what they used to be. No matter what some folks would like to believe. There are rats living wide open in cities like New York and Miami today. That said, they're still dangerous. And even if it got to the point where they only kill, say, one guy every few years. Who wants to be that one guy? The threat of violence is enough, and it always has been.
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Re: Is there any way to defeat ELSUR?
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Doesn't that bonnano rat own synergy gyms? Those are by far the worst gyms I have ever seen. They didnt even have air conditioning in the summer and they gave me hell to cancel. Just a little antidote. Yup, and he lives in a high rise in Gramercy. He's one of the guys I was talking about.
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Re: Is there any way to defeat ELSUR?
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I think you mean anecdote. That's what you get for being a grammar snob .
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