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Re: Outfit Bosses Question ? [Re: GaryMartin] #784615
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It's rather obvious to me that Mike Sarno was holding down the fort for Solly D while he was away. DeLaurentis & Sarno were both soldiers in the Infelice crew, with Sarno being much younger & lower on the totem pole. It's true that when all those guys went away, the younger next generation (Sarno & his cronies) were the only Infelice guys left on the street. All the Carlisi guys were locked up. So naturally, Sarno took the reigns of Cicero until his superiors got released. I just don't think they expected him to goof up like he did, that obviously wasn't planned.

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Re: Outfit Bosses Question ? [Re: GaryMartin] #784645
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I wonder if they expected him to cry in court.

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You guys think Sarno will make it out of prison?

Re: Outfit Bosses Question ? [Re: GaryMartin] #784665
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Even if he does, he'll be in pretty rough shape, healthwise.


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Re: Outfit Bosses Question ? [Re: GaryMartin] #784670
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Yeah, I'd be shocked.

Re: Outfit Bosses Question ? [Re: GaryMartin] #784861
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during the family secrets trial they showed photographs and had wiretaps

marcello called a couple people and told them they had to meet somebody

marcello showed up with carlisi but he didn't make any calls to carlisi

carlisi was the boss

Re: Outfit Bosses Question ? [Re: PKDickman] #784940
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Originally Posted By: PKDickman
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I think the media is quite silly to take the word if one unknown/unnamed informant. For all we know it was some low level associate in Cicero who had no clue the structure. Not to mention if he felt abandoned, it probably means the guy was shelved for one reason or another.

To be fair, the media reported what was in a fed affidavit and was pretty dismissive of that particular source's claim.

It was Johnson who didn't read the news article all the way through.


Yep. I'm not sure why some have found it hard to believe Sarno was acting boss. That's what the FBI had him as, just like they did Marcello before him. And both of them being from the same crew probably isn't a coincidence.


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Re: Outfit Bosses Question ? [Re: GaryMartin] #784949
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They weren't really necessarily from the same crew though. The Cicero crew is an entity unto itself, in that it is composed of two separate factions: The Carlisi/Marcello Crew & the Ferriola/Infelise Crew. These two factions became even more separated & distant following the incarcerations of their upper echelon members. This became evident when the Ferriola/Infelise faction (DeLaurentis, Inendino, Marino, Sarno) knocked down Big Tony Chiaramonti & Little Tony Zizzo. (Carlisi/Marcello crew members), and in doing so, claimed the entire Cicero/Berwyn/Melrose Park territory for themselves. Prior to this taking place, there were two "bosses" of Cicero. Mike Sarno, who was acting on behalf of his superiors who were incarcerated at the time, and Little Tony Zizzo, who was acting boss on behalf of Jimmy Marcello while he was imprisoned. They were 100% equals.

Mike Sarno was a member of the Rocky Infelise crew. He worked under a guy named Bobby Salerno, who worked under a guy named Lou Marino, who worked under a guy by the name of Solly DeLaurentis. So yeah, it's quite obvious that he was just holding down the fort until Jimmy I & Solly D got home.

People get confused because the Cicero crew is the only Outfit family large enough that it had to be split up into two factions to cover the territory. This isn't the case with any of the other crews, which operate under one boss/panel.

You have to disregard a lot of what the feds put out there for the public. The feds largely go off of information they obtain via low level informants. These informants aren't privy to high level information/hierarchies.

Hope that helps clear some stuff up regarding Mike Sarnos place within the Outfit.

Re: Outfit Bosses Question ? [Re: HuronSocialAthletic] #784952
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Originally Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic
They weren't really necessarily from the same crew though. The Cicero crew is an entity unto itself, in that it is composed of two separate factions: The Carlisi/Marcello Crew & the Ferriola/Infelise Crew. These two factions became even more separated & distant following the incarcerations of their upper echelon members. This became evident when the Ferriola/Infelise faction (DeLaurentis, Inendino, Marino, Sarno) knocked down Big Tony Chiaramonti & Little Tony Zizzo. (Carlisi/Marcello crew members), and in doing so, claimed the entire Cicero/Berwyn/Melrose Park territory for themselves. Prior to this taking place, there were two "bosses" of Cicero. Mike Sarno, who was acting on behalf of his superiors who were incarcerated at the time, and Little Tony Zizzo, who was acting boss on behalf of Jimmy Marcello while he was imprisoned. They were 100% equals.

Mike Sarno was a member of the Rocky Infelise crew. He worked under a guy named Bobby Salerno, who worked under a guy named Lou Marino, who worked under a guy by the name of Solly DeLaurentis. So yeah, it's quite obvious that he was just holding down the fort until Jimmy I & Solly D got home.

People get confused because the Cicero crew is the only Outfit family large enough that it had to be split up into two factions to cover the territory. This isn't the case with any of the other crews, which operate under one boss/panel.

You have to disregard a lot of what the feds put out there for the public. The feds largely go off of information they obtain via low level informants. These informants aren't privy to high level information/hierarchies.

Hope that helps clear some stuff up regarding Mike Sarnos place within the Outfit.

the outfit is so secretive that theyre not privy to the information but you are, yeah right whistle


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Re: Outfit Bosses Question ? [Re: GaryMartin] #784979
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Hey, I'm just going off of common sense here. It's common sense that Mike Sarno was acting as boss until Solly DeLaurentis & Jim Inendino got out of the can. He was way, way under them on the totem pole in that faction of the Cicero crew. He was the only heavy left from that crew that was still on the street during the mid-90s, had the balls to step up to the plate. It isn't rocket science.

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Re: Outfit Bosses Question ? [Re: GaryMartin] #784982
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I think Sarno being an acting boss is something that was lost in translation between the feds and the press. The feds obviously knew that Sarno was acting boss of Cicero but I think the press ran with it and exaggerated him into being acting boss of the whole Outfit - this after months and years before and after Sarno's arrest where the press named DiFronzo, Andriacchi, Lombardo, D'Amico, and Marcello as "boss" in some form or fashion. It's not really something that was necessarily disputed either - busting a boss is a big thing and John Q. Public doesn't differentiate between a crew boss and a family boss, all they hear is "boss" and it sounds good to them.


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Re: Outfit Bosses Question ? [Re: GaryMartin] #784989
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Correct, and the Outfit has historically been viewed as one single family, when in reality, after Sam Carlisi died, anyways, it could more or less be considered 4/5 separate "families" (Cicero being two factions, as I pointed out).

The public views the Outfit as one family, with one boss, and I just don't believe that's the case any longer. Probably never was the case. Such is America's fascination with one single individual wielding ultimate power. Lol.

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Re: Outfit Bosses Question ? [Re: Dellacroce] #785005
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Makes sense to me. So Marino answered to Solly D?

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Re: Outfit Bosses Question ? [Re: GaryMartin] #785006
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Acting boss over Cicero I agree. But overall boss of Chicago is just laughable. There's no way in hell that the Difronzo brothers and Marco were taking orders from Sarno.

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Marino was Infelise's #2 when he ran Cicero. Solly D was underneath him.


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when has "the boss" really been "the boss" in chicago?

sarno wouldn't have gotten indicted if they just would've started a fire

a bomb after 9/11 ain't that smart


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Re: Outfit Bosses Question ? [Re: Snakes] #785048
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Originally Posted By: Snakes
Marino was Infelise's #2 when he ran Cicero. Solly D was underneath him.

That's what I was thinking. Going to be interesting to see what happens when he gets released...I would presume he would be very near the top.

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Originally Posted By: funkster
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Marino was Infelise's #2 when he ran Cicero. Solly D was underneath him.

That's what I was thinking. Going to be interesting to see what happens when he gets released...I would presume he would be very near the top.

He would definitely at the very least be the #3 guy, a good chance of #2 also. Just depends if he wants it or not.

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Isn't Marino going to be mid 80's when he's released? I doubt he'll want any part of the life anymore. Unless he's a knucklehead like Franzese.

I wonder how involved his son is? Wasn't he on the Cicero ghost payroll and went to college?

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Dino is involved from what I understand. I don't see why people think this is odd, these guys stay involved late in life all the time.

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Originally Posted By: funkster
Dino is involved from what I understand. I don't see why people think this is odd, these guys stay involved late in life all the time.

I could see it going either way. You gotta remember he's been in jail for over 20 years and he's in his early 80's. He might just want to live out his last few years in peace. But he very well might pull a Sonny Franzese and be active lol.

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Originally Posted By: Dellacroce
the outfit is so secretive that theyre not privy to the information but you are, yeah right whistle


Took the words right out of my mouth. And then he back pedals and says he's just going by "common sense." That's the problem with these Outfit threads. So quick to dismiss real intel (the feds) in favor of guesswork and bullshit.


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Lol, Christ you two are pathetic. A tandem team of clowndom. Go join a Kickboxing gym or something. You two are the angstiest, most tightly wound clown duo that we've got lurking these forums. Go fuck up a heavy bag instead of dumping all of your 90210 drama on us, creeps.

For the record, I'm agreeing with you, goofball court jester. Mike Sarno was indeed the acting boss of Cicero, LIKE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SAID SO. :P:P:P

How about some stuff that the feds shit Da bed on though: they listed Rocco Lombardo as a made member of the Chicago Mafia.

Rocky Lombardo is a motherfucking half cock tae kwon do instructor.

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Again, look at HIERARCHY. Sarno worked under these guys. They were his superiors. It's only natural that he assume position while they were away.

That's what the feds implied when they christened him "acting boss".

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