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Re: Nicodemo Trial [Re: Dellacroce] #780217
05/25/14 03:53 PM
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Its out of control. The budget the philly oc office has. For a bunch of glorified bookmakers and video poker machine operators. There are probably a half dozen bigger, more profitable and more violent crews operating in philly without a whole office dedicated to them.

Re: Nicodemo Trial [Re: Dellacroce] #780231
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Carace, Gioeli, Little Dino, Gotti (and to a lesser extent Ligambi, Scoops, Romanello etc) all winning trials of 'late' is the exception not the rule.

If Nicodemo flips people are in trouble. And the odds are definitely stacked against.

Pizza's right. The Feds play games only they win. The chances Nicodemo and Grande are willing to do life for Ligambi and Joey are slim, at best.


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Re: Nicodemo Trial [Re: SonnyBlackstein] #780234
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Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
Carace, Gioeli, Little Dino, Gotti (and to a lesser extent Ligambi, Scoops, Romanello etc) all winning trials of 'late' is the exception not the rule.

And on top of that, Gioeli and Little Dino are probably going to die in jail anyway, even after being acquitted. So even when the Feds "lose," they still win sometimes. Like I said, they stack the deck and they win. I'm not saying it's right, but I'm not in denial about it either. If the Feds want you, they're probably going to get you.

And for those reasons, a 21st century Italian American gangster = A poor career choice.


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Re: Nicodemo Trial [Re: Dellacroce] #780236
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Didnt Little Dino just get 50 years or something like that?


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Re: Nicodemo Trial [Re: HandsomeStevie] #780239
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Originally Posted By: HandsomeStevie
Didnt Little Dino just get 50 years or something like that?

Yup, and Fat Tommy got almost twenty. In the shape he's in, odds are he's never coming home either.


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Re: Nicodemo Trial [Re: pizzaboy] #780252
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
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Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
It's been proven with some of the recent cases that you can't win a trial solely on a rat anymore.

It all averages out in the long run. The Feds have been batting .900 at trial for the past 200 years. That's not going to change. They stack the deck in their favor, and they win.

But when it comes to murder charges, the Feds are around .500 in recent years. Even if Nicodemo flips, it'll still be tough to make a murder charge against Ligambi or Merlino stick.

Well, I'd have to see that on paper to believe it. Granted, in the high profile mob trials of the past few years they seem to be in a bit of a slump. But the Feds try hundreds of murders a year that don't make the papers, and I still think that it all averages out. They have too many tools in their arsenal and they don't play fair, so they'll always win a lot more than they lose.

As far as Nicodemo being a poor witness against Ligambi and/or Merlino, I have no idea. I don't pretend to know anything about that family other than the very public knowledge that they seem to be a running joke lately. But I do know something about the Feds and their tactics. So I was making more of a general statement than a prediction about Nicodemo. I don't know him, and I don't care whether he flips or not smile .

I meant Mafia cases, specifically. Most have ended with "guilty on racketeering, acquitted of murder". Bobby Glasses and the people around the Al Bruno murder (at least the one's that didn't flip) seem to be the only losers as of late.

Nicomedo seems f*cked, though.


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Re: Nicodemo Trial [Re: Ted] #780266
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There were like 8 guys charged with Al Bruno's murder and 4 of em flipped. One of the guys who didn't flip, Emilio Fusco, was found innocent of the murder but still got 25 years. Those 2 Greek brothers, Freddy and Ty Geas, were/are tough dudes.

Re: Nicodemo Trial [Re: Dellacroce] #780364
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Still can't believe this shit happened. Unreal.

Re: Nicodemo Trial [Re: Dellacroce] #780413
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Reading Dave schratweisers twitter from the last week. He's a crime reporter for one of the local stations. He's saying you can expect to see the "shooter" up on the stand with nicodemo at the retrial. Guess grandes day is coming. He also made mention of the Feds meeting with merlino and subpoenaing (sp?) his financial records. Apparently he pays $250 a month in restitution. Feds are curious where his money is coming from and also want to up his payments.

Re: Nicodemo Trial [Re: tjonezee] #780414
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Originally Posted By: tjonezee
Reading Dave schratweisers twitter from the last week. He's a crime reporter for one of the local stations. He's saying you can expect to see the "shooter" up on the stand with nicodemo at the retrial. Guess grandes day is coming. He also made mention of the Feds meeting with merlino and subpoenaing (sp?) his financial records. Apparently he pays $250 a month in restitution. Feds are curious where his money is coming from and also want to up his payments.

It looks like a house of cards if you ask me. And once it tips . . . .


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Re: Nicodemo Trial [Re: Dellacroce] #780416
05/27/14 04:02 AM
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Having Jacobs down in Boca to sit in on the feds talking to merlino isn't a cheap ticket either, but like stated above and scharweiser seems dialed into some sources from the feds, or the feds could be using schratweiser and out fishing looking for some rats to start jumpin early because they do not have anything. Pretty big statement that was leaked that the shooter will also be on the stand in the next trial

Re: Nicodemo Trial [Re: merlino] #780465
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Originally Posted By: merlino
Having Jacobs down in Boca to sit in on the feds talking to merlino isn't a cheap ticket either, but like stated above and scharweiser seems dialed into some sources from the feds, or the feds could be using schratweiser and out fishing looking for some rats to start jumpin early because they do not have anything. Pretty big statement that was leaked that the shooter will also be on the stand in the next trial



The scuttlebut down here is that Joey left town after Easter and hasn't been seen since. I'm not sure how accurate this is or how accurate this guy Schratweiser is either.

I do have some good news for the boys in Chicago however. Whats left of the Outfit is safe and recouperating well down here in Boca. They have been staying in a local assisted living facility, who BTW the ARM works at changing bed pans. The Outfit has been playing shufflebaord, feeding the ducks and catching the early bird at Josie's so they are all rested up and ready to go back to their summer home on Lake Michigan now that it has warmed up a bit up there. wink

Re: Nicodemo Trial [Re: Dellacroce] #780471
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I just seen a picture of Eddie Jacobs and Merlino in Boca last week. Crazzzzzy.


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Re: Nicodemo Trial [Re: HandsomeStevie] #780473
05/27/14 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted By: HandsomeStevie
I just seen a picture of Eddie Jacobs and Merlino in Boca last week. Crazzzzzy.


At the uncle joe trial he was standing the whole time and one day I was there overheard him say he was probably going in for surgery could be down there getting R&R from surgery not sure, hes a bigger dude though and good lawyer. Philly family could turn out to be getting ready to crumble all together with this new trial

Re: Nicodemo Trial [Re: HandsomeStevie] #780479
05/27/14 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted By: HandsomeStevie
I just seen a picture of Eddie Jacobs and Merlino in Boca last week. Crazzzzzy.



post that shit


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Re: Nicodemo Trial [Re: Dellacroce] #780481
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so the prosecutor going to put grande up on the stand for what all he has to do is plead the 5th like dave chapel taught everyone the judge could hold him in contemp for the rest of the trial I think but its only like a 2 week trial. say nicodemo just put it on record with whoevers in charge like I don't like this guy and im gonna kill him does that make the higher guys in phillys mob guilty of something that's a blury line.

Re: Nicodemo Trial [Re: Dellacroce] #780489
05/27/14 12:23 PM
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something is still amiss

i have to believe this didn't go down as planned.

why keep the burner phone, why keep the biscuit, why go home right after?

if he ditches the gun, doesn't go right home and have some alibi he doesn't even get arrested.

something went awry


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Re: Nicodemo Trial [Re: HandsomeStevie] #780500
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Originally Posted By: HandsomeStevie
I just seen a picture of Eddie Jacobs and Merlino in Boca last week. Crazzzzzy.


He was down there to get a deposition from skinny.
He was there for two days.Man you guys find everything....


Cackling like a banty Rooster.

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Re: Nicodemo Trial [Re: Dellacroce] #780503
05/27/14 01:42 PM
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I agree cheech, i would of definetly got rid of the biscuit


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Re: Nicodemo Trial [Re: Dellacroce] #780514
05/27/14 03:04 PM
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Dave Schratwieser ‏@DSchratwieser May 23
Mistrial and gag order. Judge won't release them right now. Looker for shooter to be sitting next to Nicodemo next time#fox29


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Re: Nicodemo Trial [Re: Dellacroce] #780519
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Dave Schratwieser ‏@DSchratwieser May 23
@FOX29philly Only on Fox. Feds put heat on Mob Boss Joey Merlino. Subpoenaed his financial records & ordered him to answer questions#fox29


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Re: Nicodemo Trial [Re: Dellacroce] #780520
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Dave Schratwieser ‏@DSchratwieser May 23
@FOX29philly Merlino & his attorney Ed Jacobs spent 90 minutes answering questions in South Florida this week about Joey's finances#fox29


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Re: Nicodemo Trial [Re: Dellacroce] #780521
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Dave Schratwieser ‏@DSchratwieser May 23
@FOX29philly Jacobs tells Fox 29 this is "nothing unusual" since Joey is set to come off parole in Sept.Says he answered all questions#fox29


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Re: Nicodemo Trial [Re: Dellacroce] #780523
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Dave Schratwieser ‏@DSchratwieser May 23
@FOX29philly Two Philly U.S.Attornies went to Florida to question Merlino. Jacobs says feds want Joey to up his $250/mo restitution#fox29


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Re: Nicodemo Trial [Re: Dellacroce] #780524
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Dave Schratwieser ‏@DSchratwieser May 23
@FOX29philly Sources say feds curious about where Merlino's money is coming from. They want to know if he can pay more restitution#fox29


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Re: Nicodemo Trial [Re: Dellacroce] #780526
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Dave Schratwieser ‏@DSchratwieser May 23
@FOX29philly Sources say Feds may ask for a hearing before a judge if they aren't satisfied with Merlino's answers. Feds won't comment#fox29


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Re: Nicodemo Trial [Re: Dellacroce] #780528
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all the posts are from Daves Twitter page and I posted them all in the order that he posted them..


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Re: Nicodemo Trial [Re: Serpiente] #780529
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Originally Posted By: Serpiente
Originally Posted By: HandsomeStevie
I just seen a picture of Eddie Jacobs and Merlino in Boca last week. Crazzzzzy.


He was down there to get a deposition from skinny.
He was there for two days.Man you guys find everything....



Funny how you posted that after it was reported. Not saying you're lying. Saying its funny

Last edited by cheech; 05/27/14 03:24 PM.

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Re: Nicodemo Trial [Re: cheech] #780530
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House of Cards. Mark my words. Or don't. What do I care? lol


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Re: Nicodemo Trial [Re: Dellacroce] #780533
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What do u think PB. Merlino, ligambi, Mazzone etc all go down?


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