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Re: Anthony Casso amd Frank DeCicco
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Corallo chose buddy luongo as his successor but amuso whacked him , after that corallo had little choice but to hand over the reigns to amuso and casso Is there any information about this Buddy Luongo? I'v never seen much about him. Only that he was picked as Corallo's successor before his death. I believe that he was also only a Captain at the time also. He was a captain, took over Tony "Higgins" Castaldi´s crew around 1981. Born around 1939. A Bronx guy. There was a Michael Luongo (possibly a made guy) who was kidnapped and held for ransom in the late 1960s in much same way as a couple of other mob kidnappings around the time. He survived. I believe this Michael Luongo to have been Buddy´s uncle. PB, being a Bronx guy with life experience and all that ( ) , do you remember the story? Oh, I forgot to mention. I posted a picture of Luongo in the "rare picture thread" some time ago. View it here: http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthr...true#Post716687
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Re: Anthony Casso amd Frank DeCicco
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Thanks for the info. Luongo must have been pretty close to Corallo at the time to be a Captain and picked as his successor. I did forget he was pretty much the only choice since the administration were going to prison for life.
“I called your f—— house five times yesterday, now, if you’re going to disregard my m—– f—— phone calls, I’ll blow you and that f —— house up… This is not a f—— game. My time is valuable. If I ever hear anybody else calls you and you respond within five days, I’ll f—— kill you.†~ John Gotti.
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Re: Anthony Casso amd Frank DeCicco
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05/01/14 02:43 PM
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There was a Michael Luongo (possibly a made guy) who was kidnapped and held for ransom in the late 1960s in much same way as a couple of other mob kidnappings around the time. He survived. I believe this Michael Luongo to have been Buddy´s uncle. PB, being a Bronx guy with life experience and all that ( ) , do you remember the story? Yeah, I was a little kid in the '60s. But I do remember hearing that story from my Dad and my Uncle. Now Buddy I remember well. And Mike was his uncle for sure.
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Re: Anthony Casso amd Frank DeCicco
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Maybe this is a stupid question.... but who was Amuso's consiglieri in the 80's and early 90's? Frank Lastorino.
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Re: Anthony Casso amd Frank DeCicco
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Maybe this is a stupid question.... but who was Amuso's consiglieri in the 80's and early 90's? Frank Lastorino. Oh, big Frank. I just can't see him as a consigliere for some reason. He's younger than Amuso and he looks too much of a muscle guy to have that role. I pictured an older and shorter looking guy with glasses lol. I love that surveillance pic of Amuso, Casso and Lastorino where Amuso looks like Johnny Sack and Lastorino looks like Furio.
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Re: Anthony Casso amd Frank DeCicco
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05/09/14 08:00 AM
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Maybe this is a stupid question.... but who was Amuso's consiglieri in the 80's and early 90's? Frank Lastorino. Lastorino was acting consigliere later, in the early 1990s, before being demoted due to his conviction. Before him, Mariano Macaluso served as acting consigliere (for Furnari). He was demoted by Amuso and replaced by Casso. Casso was however soon promoted to underboss. The position of consigliere seems to have been vacant thereafter until Lastorino was given the spot. On Luongo, it looks like Corallo appointed him the acting boss around 1986. When he was killed, he was buried somewhere and never found. In fact he was never, officially anyway, reported as missing until much later (for some reason). We know now that Amuso/Casso was behind the disappearence of Luongo but we can´t be sure that Corallo knew that in 1986.
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Re: Anthony Casso amd Frank DeCicco
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05/09/14 08:05 AM
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Maybe this is a stupid question.... but who was Amuso's consiglieri in the 80's and early 90's? Frank Lastorino. Lastorino was acting consigliere later, in the early 1990s, before being demoted due to his conviction. Before him, Mariano Macaluso served as acting consigliere (for Furnari). He was demoted by Amuso and replaced by Casso. Casso was however soon promoted to underboss. The position of consigliere seems to have been vacant thereafter until Lastorino was given the spot. Right, Hairy. The way he posed the question was late '80s, early '90s. And the best answer for that time frame was Lastorino because of the vacancy in the post Furnari years . And let's be honest, with Casso the Consigliere spot was strictly a cosmetic position anyway. He wasn't taking anyone's advice about anything. He didn't want counsel. He wanted "Yes Men."
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Re: Anthony Casso amd Frank DeCicco
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05/09/14 08:44 AM
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^^^ I´m just filling in some blanks PB. I know .
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Re: Anthony Casso amd Frank DeCicco
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If you take a look at the 1991 chart in the D´Arco book, Steven Crea is listed as a captain/acting consigliere. So apparently, Crea held that spot for a short while, in between Casso and Lastorino. I noticed that too, Hairy. And it was widely known back then that Stevie carried a lot of weight here in the Bronx (especially considering that he was still fairly young back then). But an administration spot? Even an acting administration spot? Under those maniacs? I'll need a little more convincing to put much stock in that claim (from Capeci and D'Arco, not from you ) .
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Re: Anthony Casso amd Frank DeCicco
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05/09/14 09:06 AM
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I thought Eddie Coco served as Consigliere before Casso was put into the position. Coco serve as Consigliere while Anthony Corallo, Salvatore Santoro and Christopher Furnari were on trial in the Commission Case. I think he served in the year 1986-1987 before later stepping down for Casso.
“I called your f—— house five times yesterday, now, if you’re going to disregard my m—– f—— phone calls, I’ll blow you and that f —— house up… This is not a f—— game. My time is valuable. If I ever hear anybody else calls you and you respond within five days, I’ll f—— kill you.†~ John Gotti.
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Re: Anthony Casso amd Frank DeCicco
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05/09/14 09:23 AM
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Thanks for the info. Luongo must have been pretty close to Corallo at the time to be a Captain and picked as his successor. I did forget he was pretty much the only choice since the administration were going to prison for life. The whole administration was sent away after the Commission Trial. The logical successor would have been the underboss or consigliere, but they also got 100 years each along with Corallo. The new boss had to be a capo.
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Re: Anthony Casso amd Frank DeCicco
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05/09/14 09:35 AM
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Ok, everything is coming together. I guess once Furnari was put away in the Commission trial, The order of Consigliere's(Official and Acting) had to be something like this.
1986 — Eddie Coco on an acting basis before retiring that same yr. 1987-1988 - Macaluso before getting pushed out by Amuso. 1988 - Gaspipe Casso? 1989-1993 - Lastorino?
Coco and Macaluso pretty much were pushed out and set into retirement because of their age. They were in their late 70's to maybe early 80's. These two also served under the peaceful reign of Gagliano, Lucchese and Corallo. Can't understand why they would have served under Casso and Amuso who destroyed the family.
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“I called your f—— house five times yesterday, now, if you’re going to disregard my m—– f—— phone calls, I’ll blow you and that f —— house up… This is not a f—— game. My time is valuable. If I ever hear anybody else calls you and you respond within five days, I’ll f—— kill you.†~ John Gotti.
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Re: Anthony Casso amd Frank DeCicco
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05/09/14 09:39 AM
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Thanks for the info. Luongo must have been pretty close to Corallo at the time to be a Captain and picked as his successor. I did forget he was pretty much the only choice since the administration were going to prison for life. The whole administration was sent away after the Commission Trial. The logical successor would have been the underboss or consigliere, but they also got 100 years each along with Corallo. The new boss had to be a capo. That's true.
“I called your f—— house five times yesterday, now, if you’re going to disregard my m—– f—— phone calls, I’ll blow you and that f —— house up… This is not a f—— game. My time is valuable. If I ever hear anybody else calls you and you respond within five days, I’ll f—— kill you.†~ John Gotti.
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Re: Anthony Casso amd Frank DeCicco
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05/09/14 09:42 AM
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Coco and Macaluso pretty much were pushed out and set into retirement because of their age. They were in their late 70's to maybe early 80's. It happens. These guys get put out to pasture all the time when they're too old to earn. But because of a few anomalies, namely in the Genovese family (QD, Mario, Benny, take your pick), many people buy into the idea that an incontinent 90 year old with Alzheimer's is still gonna be active. It's honestly not very common. Crooks want to enjoy their golden years, too .
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Re: Anthony Casso amd Frank DeCicco
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Ok, everything is coming together. I guess once Furnari was put away in the Commission trial, The order of Consigliere's(Official and Acting) had to be something like this.
1986 — Eddie Coco on an acting basis before retiring that same yr. 1987-1988 - Macaluso before getting pushed out by Amuso. 1988 - Gaspipe Casso? 1989-1993 - Lastorino?
Coco and Macaluso pretty much were pushed out and set into retirement because of their age. They were in their late 70's to maybe early 80's. No, Lastorino was later, from 1993 til 1994. And according to D´Arco (let not PB see this post...) Steve Crea was acting consigliere in 1990 (for a short time). Actually, Furnari was still the offical consigliere, the guys mentioned above were only acting consiglieres. From 1991 til 1993, the Family had a ruling panel running the Family, so no consigliere was needed.
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Re: Anthony Casso amd Frank DeCicco
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05/09/14 09:47 AM
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(let not PB see this post...) Too late, I already saw it .
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