I think this is something we're all taking for granted. Good chance some of these guys simply won't be identifiable because they aren't known or are civilians.

Sam Destefano was, without a doubt, made. Snakes is correct, its an urban legend that he was not. I think there's a very good chance that sunglasses is Mario.

I think it's a better chance that Mario is the guy with the cap on but I wouldn't think he'd be with this group of guys.

Does Binder have a website Snakes? I googled, but all i'm getting are links to buying the book.

Yes, he does:

http://www.myalcaponemuseum.com/id165.htm

I didn't think of Centracchio either until I saw some old photos of him and the face and hair match. Also, in the picnics Accardo and Cerone held, everybody was invited, not just top level guys.

Yeah, but Centracchio wasn't even on the radar at that point.

I think there were probably quite a few people on their radar that we still don't know about, so I'm not going to venture to guess when Centracchio was on it. After all, a lot of these guys knew each other from childhood, and in 1959 he was 30 years old, which to me is old enough to have been known. Whatever the case, he does look quite a bit like the young guy in the photo.

wet-pants might be armondo fosco. would make sense and as far is i know the build fits.

http://americannewspost.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/jb__fellows.jpg
http://americannewspost.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/mondo2.png

but unprovable, sure.

That's either Sam or Mario, most likely Mario DeStefano... I'm about 95% sure.

I am pretty sure it is Sam.

Look at the earlobes.
Mario's are free, a dominant trait.


Sams are attached, a recessive trait.

Just seeing this photo for the first time. Not sure if this has been determined here but number 5 is Nicky Palermo and the event is probably the plumber's picnic that he hosted back in those days. I believe one of his daughters married an Accardo. He was also father-in-law to Frankie DeLegge Sr. Palermo ran a burglery crew out of Melrose Park. A very reliable source told me that at one point JB was talked out of whacking Palermo. Don't know what Nicky did to piss Tony off.

Palermo testified in front of a grand jury about the burglar murders.

It had to be prior to 1968 that JB wanted to kill Nicky.

Oh yeah? I wanna say that I heard that it was over testifying but I may be confusing that with Michael Volpe who actually was killed for testifying before the same grand jury.

This may help:

http://archives.chicagotribune.com/1979/...eft-at-his-home

Neither Michael Volpe or his car (Honda) was ever found. According to the article, Palermo went to jail for refusing to testify.

He ended up aggreeing to testify.
He said, Accardo was retired,they were just friends, and they never talked business together.

He claimed to have a bad ticker and the feds were instructed to limit his interrogations to 15 min at a time.

I think they were just fishing with Palermo and decided to move on.

Butch Blasi was the one who refused to testify and got locked up for 18 months.

I never could understand why accardo had volpe clipped, unless in was in on the burglary, why else would accardo have him killed.

Because by testifying before the grand jury, and admitting that there was indeed a break-in at Accardo's residence, Volpe effectively provided the government with a motive for why the burglars were offed. Nobody else testified that there was a break-in, not even Accardo's wife. It ended up not mattering in the long run but one can understand why Accardo would have been upset.

I thought the same thing, Binnie. Here's all I've heard: While testifying, Volpe admitted there had been a burglary. In Wayne Johnson's book, there is a brief statement saying the police believed Volpe helped the burglars. I believe the first reason is more plausible. Having worked for Accardo for decades, he surely would have known better than to cooperate with these burglars.

Also, Accardo's wife and daughter both testified they knew nothing about a burglary.

Thanks to PK for the follow-up about Palermo.

then volpe made a serious mistake, surely, accardo told him not to say there was a burglary. there must be more to this about volpe, he just could not be that stupid. could he?

Interesting theory on the background of the picture.

I have always suspected that he might have been a little senile.
He was a 75 yr old goombah doing odd jobs and picking up trash on JB's lawn.

think thats the best guess we have so far. Don't think i ever saw a picture of mirro, so no clue. And i think we all agree, 10 is a DeStefano, either Sam or Mario

Looking back through the thread, on page 2 I posted that Antillar had 5 guesses right on the ANP thread. He posited:



Which leads me now to believe that Fosco was giving him credit for merely getting 5 names correct without regard to order. Four of those 5 he got credit for would have to be: Amato, JB, Cerone, and Palermo.

So who's the fifth? Knowing what we now know (or think we know, lol), it's not Simonelli, Fischetti, or Messino, and Fosco told me that Gags was not in the pic, which means Adduci is indeed probably #8.

Therefore,we're left with:

1. Amato
2. Batters
3. Potenza
4. ??? -- Infelice or Ferriola?
5. Palermo
6. ??? -- Centracchio or Pranno? I'm leaning Pranno.
7. ??? -- Anybody have any decent pics of Cowboy?
8. Adduci
9. Cerone
10. DeStefano

Getting closer...

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/chicago-mafia-loansharking-report-116-mugshots Here is a link to a photo of mirro. The one coming after the spilotro. I also think it could be mirro at nr 7

Nice find. I came across that one ages ago, but couldn't find it again. That pic is from mid to late 60s, eh? The part in the hair is the same, but sure looks like he'd have had to have put on a lot of weight from the ANP photo.

I have come to the conclusion that Fosco is guessing and we can't take any thing he says as gospel.

#3 he says isn't Simonelli, because he wouldn't be with this high level crowd.
He also says it's Pranno.
No who ever saw Pranno would ever confuse him with Potenza or Simonelli. The guy looked like Herman Munster fer cripes sake.

I think he wants this to be a shot of another Apalachin, but I think it might just be a bunch of mobsters drinking beer.

Simonelli would have an excellent reason to be there. He was Joe B's brother in law, his regular job as Martin Accardo's sidekick was on hold while Martin was in prison on a Tax beef, and was possibly already living in Tony's guest house (he was certainly in there by '63).

As for Joey Gags, I had written him off, but in every picture I had seen he looked like such a mope. Then I saw this one of him smiling.



Put a cap on him and make him laugh, and I see #4.

Somewhere out there is a '52 lineup photo of Cowboy Mirro. It was evidence at the McClellan hearings and a copy passed through the hands of Binder and was auctioned off in '06.

I'll keep looking.