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Re: Organized Crime in New Jersey, 1983 [Re: Snakes] #873607
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Reember, this was from 1983.


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Re: Organized Crime in New Jersey, 1983 [Re: SinatraClub] #873663
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Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Honestly, I've saw a few mistakes early on in the Philly portion. If they aren't mistakes then it's some things I've never heard before, some really contradictory stuff at that. I'll try to go back and find some examples.

yeah they had leonetti listed as a soldier and he supposedly became a captain after scarfo took over

Re: Organized Crime in New Jersey, 1983 [Re: Snakes] #873692
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They also refer to all members of the Cherry Hill Gambino's, including Rosario as being made members of the Gambino Crime Family, suggesting dual membership in Sicily & The States, I always suspected this, but was told this wasn't possible over on The Black Hand, and that Rosario was never a member of the Crime Family itself.

Re: Organized Crime in New Jersey, 1983 [Re: Snakes] #873702
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SinatraClub, I found this in Five Families about being prohibited to have dual membership.

https://books.google.com/books?id=5nAt6N...ily&f=false

Re: Organized Crime in New Jersey, 1983 [Re: Snakes] #873710
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Yes, guys testify or flip and then after the fact say that dual membership is prohibited, yet we have plenty examples that contradict said prohibition. Salvatore "Toto" Catalano for one, was a Bonanno made man, and at one point acting boss, but he was also made in Sicily. Some on The Black Hand, tend to deny this, but every literary source that I've come across in regards to Catalano state that he was made in Sicily. There's also Three Fingers Coppola, a made member of the Detroit Partnership, part of the Partinico Faction, there are sources which claim that after setting up his heroin network in Sicily, he was an active member and at one point led the Partinico Family, in Sicily.

There's John Stanfa, whom was a made man in Sicily and a made man in the Philadelphia mob.


And again, the Cherry Hill Gambinos are prime examples of the contradiction.

Re: Organized Crime in New Jersey, 1983 [Re: SinatraClub] #873712
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Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Yes, guys testify or flip and then after the fact say that dual membership is prohibited, yet we have plenty examples that contradict said prohibition. Salvatore "Toto" Catalano for one, was a Bonanno made man, and at one point acting boss, but he was also made in Sicily. Some on The Black Hand, tend to deny this, but every literary source that I've come across in regards to Catalano state that he was made in Sicily. There's also Three Fingers Coppola, a made member of the Detroit Partnership, part of the Partinico Faction, there are sources which claim that after setting up his heroin network in Sicily, he was an active member and at one point led the Partinico Family, in Sicily.

There's John Stanfa, whom was a made man in Sicily and a made man in the Philadelphia mob.


And again, the Cherry Hill Gambinos are prime examples of the contradiction.


I've read in the Sixth Family that guys can have dual membership, but they can't be made boss.. That's why the four other families made a stink when Catalono was made acting boss.. But Catalano and George ''from Canada'' Sciascia were made in Sicily also according to the book..


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Re: Organized Crime in New Jersey, 1983 [Re: BillyBrizzi] #873715
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Originally Posted By: BillyBrizzi
Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Yes, guys testify or flip and then after the fact say that dual membership is prohibited, yet we have plenty examples that contradict said prohibition. Salvatore "Toto" Catalano for one, was a Bonanno made man, and at one point acting boss, but he was also made in Sicily. Some on The Black Hand, tend to deny this, but every literary source that I've come across in regards to Catalano state that he was made in Sicily. There's also Three Fingers Coppola, a made member of the Detroit Partnership, part of the Partinico Faction, there are sources which claim that after setting up his heroin network in Sicily, he was an active member and at one point led the Partinico Family, in Sicily.

There's John Stanfa, whom was a made man in Sicily and a made man in the Philadelphia mob.


And again, the Cherry Hill Gambinos are prime examples of the contradiction.


I've read in the Sixth Family that guys can have dual membership, but they can't be made boss.. That's why the four other families made a stink when Catalono was made acting boss.. But Catalano and George ''from Canada'' Sciascia were made in Sicily also according to the book..


Billy the post I made is from the Five Families and it tells a whole different story. Interesting about what the Sixth Family book has to say.

Re: Organized Crime in New Jersey, 1983 [Re: Snakes] #873756
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The gambinos didnt have dual membership, but their blood kept them close to palermo. Being internationally known as big players in the heroin trade for the past 30-40 years doesn't hurt either. I doubt the gambino network is as big as it was years ago but they still have family and extended family around. Don't let someone bullshit you, they are all balls deep in it.

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