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Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today
[Re: ChiSox74]
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02/14/14 05:49 PM
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Everything the Arm says makes sense to an Illinois local. I live downstate now, but lived in Melrose for a few years and have extended family who were raised there and went to Catholic school with the Italian kids. I still go up to DuPage quite often, but I've only been in Melrose/Elmwood less times than I can count on one hand in the past decade. Still, I hear gossip from relatives and what the Arm says seems spot on (actually its a lot more info than what I have heard, but makes sense in the context of the area we're talking about).
. My only disagreement (if one wants to call it that) relates to the original argument that Chicago is as big as any of the 5 Families or some of the other East Coast operations. My understanding...from news articles...not pretending to know anything first hand...is that many of them are involved with the European Italian organized crime families in moving large scale narcotics. That means that they are probably involved in supplying the street gangs on the East Coast with cocaine and heroin and that means significant profits that would overshadow what I've seen described in regards to the Outfit's activities today. First thank you...I am just passing on whatb I know, not sure why some of these guys want to make it about me. As far as "size" goes, if we were talking membership, my list would have looked a bit different. The question was "rank" and I took in consideration revenue, territory and overall revenue. Again thanks, nice to hear from someone who can speak from what happens on the ground, not in the media or from law enforcement
Been there and done it I am very much for real, so if you ask, make sure you really want to know.
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Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today
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02/15/14 07:39 AM
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@ little nickey "And at least Philly can display a pattern of behavior over the last 8 years through indictments, something Chicago does not have." Hey, that's just a testament of Chicago's superior street smarts over Philly. Your proving my point for me. Philly, more east coast narcissistic "hot shots" who hang them self's with their BIG ARROGANT FLAMBOYANT JIVE ASS MOUTHS. Their retards who get caught, who have indictments hanging over their heads bravo, congrats Philadelphia. East coast still acts like its the freaking 1920's. Bunch of big mouth street punks with no street smarts. Chicago does don't act like the east coast! They don't get indictments like they east coast. You think Chicago is dead? Take a stroll down Harlem ave between Irving Park and North Ave on a Saturday night, start your stroll around 6:30pm. Their is a number of spots I can tell you to got to and you would see for your self that the shit is alive and well, but why bother. I'm no expert, I don't hang with fucking mobsters or pretend that I do but I grew up here and still live here, my family is a Sicilian family that is deeply rooted in this city. I would be a complete dumb ass if I did not know what was what and who was who, and for people to just assume that the Outfit is dead, because they have not shown a "pattern of indictments in the past 8 years" I find that mind boggling and completely insane.
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Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today
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02/15/14 07:49 AM
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@ TheArm "As far as "size" goes, if we were talking membership, my list would have looked a bit different. The question was "RANK" and I took in consideration REVENUE, TERRITORY and overall REVENUE. EXACTLY! That is what I took in consideration as well. I don't care about "made members" Chicago's Territory is HUGE, they have pockets all over the west and west coast, They bring in more $ every year then just about any other active LCN family. They are still in Vegas for fuck sakes. If there is a shady hotbed of BIG money to be had and its west of the Mississippi river, then you can bet the Chicago Outfit has its hands in it at one level or another. Are they on the level that they were from the 1920's to the 1980's.....of course not, fuck no.
Last edited by Dago_From_Chicago; 02/15/14 08:04 AM.
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Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today
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02/15/14 07:51 AM
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The Outfit's number one bachelor was 'Mad' Sam Destefano.
"My uncle(Nicky Scarfo) always told me, you have to use your brains in this thing, and you always have to use the gun." -"crazy" Phil Leonetti-
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Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today
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02/15/14 12:51 PM
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http://www.mobbedup.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/The-Outfit-crime-chart.gif Call me crazy but this does not look like a family on the verge of being dead....Chicago outfit as of 2010. New York fan boys just cant stand it. Not including deceased, incarcerated and associates I counted 119 made men. This 20-30 made guy shit that some of you are saying is retarded. This is Chicago IL, not Wichita Kansas, get with it.
Last edited by Dago_From_Chicago; 02/15/14 01:09 PM.
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Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today
[Re: DBCooper]
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02/15/14 01:08 PM
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Colombos are more powerful then bonannos imo because they have some labour racketeering operations whereas the bonannos don't.and that article says gambling makes 2 billion in revenue? really?
"You shouldn’t be embarrassed by your wealth. This contempt for money is another trick by the rich to keep the poor without it" - Michael Corleone
"You don't have to count the dead to understand the business of the Camorra" Gomorrah, Roberto Saviano
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Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today
[Re: Dago_From_Chicago]
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02/15/14 01:12 PM
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You really are a moron. These charts are and have always been complete fictitious, some poster puts together a ton of dead guys, guys serving life along with some people mentioned in media reports but not otherwise given details on. This one specifically has guys as acting capos that died in the 80s on it. Nice digging though. Great argument.
Last edited by LittleNicky; 02/15/14 01:17 PM.
Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison. I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate... for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
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Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today
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02/15/14 01:37 PM
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I do have to say the chart is interesting in so far as I can pull the lexis records of these people. Maybe one of you fanboys want to give one of them a call, stop by their place or email- ask about how great the outfit is.
Last edited by LittleNicky; 02/15/14 01:38 PM.
Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison. I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate... for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
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Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today
[Re: DBCooper]
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02/15/14 06:48 PM
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We need a list. Feel free to add to it. 1.Buffalo 2.Chicago 3.Colombo 4.'ndrangheta (in Canada) 5.NE 6.Rockford 7.Milwaukee 8.Pittsburgh My guess is 9 will be Atlantis ![lol lol](/threads/images/graemlins/classic/lol.gif)
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Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today
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02/16/14 12:56 AM
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@Dellacroce That chart is pretty spot on quite honestly, from the boss on down. I can see some incorrect bs in the chart but for the most part it is spot on from the number of crews, the names of the crews and the names of the people in it. Most of these guys in that chart are free alive and well.
Last edited by Dago_From_Chicago; 02/16/14 04:53 AM.
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