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that article is why the feds never took bloods or crips serously

their leaders rob liqour stores

now they get into other shit but they're unorganized and kill over colors

52 Hoover Criminals, Rolling 60s, Pueblo Bishops, and Black P Stones are well known to be organized in L.A.

I cannot speak for other places but here in LA, it is mostly Crips killing Crips and Bloods killing Bloods. These days you are safer with guys from a rival gang than you are with your own crew. I realize not every gang is like this but it is common knowledge that the Crips and Bloods mostly beef within their own gangs now.

I think the feds take them pretty seriously, they have had their fair share of major indictments over the years.

Some of those BGF leaders in baltimore were also doing the same thing with gang and violence prevention programmes there too whilst operating the gang and drug trafficking. The guy i mentioned above Big U also runs a community outreach programme and youth charity thing, which to be fair isn't wrong cause they do genuinely do some good when they get involved with individual problems and conflicts and have helped in certain areas.

Bounty Hunter Triple OGs Speak At Flipside's Funeral
October 23, 2013
There probably were more ex-convicts with knockout punches gathered outside a Watts Baptist church at 114th Street and Graham Avenue recently than there were in all the gyms in Los Angeles that day.

The hard hitters — Bounty Hunter Bloods from Nickerson Gardens housing project — were convened at Macedonia Baptist Church, not to wreak havoc but to hear the wiser, original gangsters, the "Triple O.G.s," exhort them to not "grab your Glocks" and "hunt down the killers" of a beloved homie.

The gathering was, in a real sense, a state funeral for Nickerson Gardens: a somber, loving, sometimes humorous farewell to Kevin "Flipside" White, aka "Dirty Kev," a rapper with O.F.T.B. (Operation From The Bottom) who signed with Death Row Records in the 1990s. White, 44, was gunned down on Sept. 23 in front of his childhood home, about 500 feet from the church.

Ten minutes after Flip White was killed, Markice "Chiccen" Brider, 29, was shot to death a few blocks east on 114th Street at Imperial Courts housing project. The Los Angeles Police Department arrested three suspects for both shootings — Grape Street Crips from Jordan Downs project in Watts — but only one has been charged.

Fear of a return to the bloody Watts of decades past put everyone on red alert.

Inside Macedonia Baptist, a Triple O.G. from way back, Ronald "Kartoon" Antwine, 54, shared tender remembrances of Flipside. He then urged the Bounty Hunters, L.A.'s most infamous Bloods, not to retaliate against Grape Street.

"Let the police do their job," Antwine said. "Outside this church right now is the LAPD officer who did what he was supposed to do that night — and caught the shooters."

Then something extraordinary happened. The overflowing congregation of 700 people stood and loudly cheered. It went on for 20 seconds.

"For the people of Watts to applaud about the LAPD making an arrest is such a huge transformation — that clearly shows what we have built with that community," LAPD Sgt. Emada Tingirides says.

The long applause was "the culmination of years of partnerships between the police, interventionists and the community," says her husband, LAPD Capt. Phillip Tingirides. "We're in a good relationship with the community, especially Nickerson and Imperial. The police do care."

A few blocks away, the repast for Markice "Chiccen" Brider was held. Brider's cousin Deshawn Cole, who was featured in L.A. Weekly's April 4 article "A Gay Leader Emerges in the 'Hood," explained, "People are coping, instead of going crazy.

"It's a different time, a new generation," Cole said. "They don't need things to be dangerous like it was for previous generations."

Sgt. Tingirides agrees. "Flip was connected to Death Row Records, to Athens Park, to other hoods," she says. "The [other] hoods were telling the Bounty Hunters, 'Point us in the right direction and we will take care of business.' But community leaders from Nickerson told them they didn't want that anymore."

Up until the early 2000s, the gang wars littered L.A. with bodies. In 1996, Flipside's song "Check Yo Hood" warned, "And now the projects have turned into a war zone. I guess the only rule now, to each his own."

Even after violent crime plummeted in L.A., the projects were still a dangerous world. From January 2002 to August 2011, 69 homicides hit Nickerson Gardens, Jordan Downs and Imperial Courts.

But then, for 22 amazing months, nobody was murdered in the three projects — and then, on June 23 this year, Floyd Videau was shot to death in Imperial Courts. And in August, Damionye Terrelle Fredricks-Hubbard, 23, aka "Roscoe," was killed at Nickerson Gardens. A week later, Capt. Tingirides was walking through Nickerson. There hadn't been any payback shootings.

"There were some hard-core Bounty Hunters standing around," Tingirides recalls. "Guys in their late 20s. I walked by and said, 'I want to tell you, thank you. I appreciate you not jumping back and wasting more lives.' One guy said, 'You're welcome. The right thing to do.' "

"I was flabbergasted. I just said, 'Thanks again,' and walked away. But by me acknowledging they were doing something right, it threw some responsibility on them."

Tingirides credits many, but two men from Nickerson Gardens, "Big Donny" Joubert and "Big Hank" Henderson, stand out.

"We cannot go back to where we were before," says Joubert, 53, a Triple O.G. whom some consider the most respected man in Watts. "We have to stay strong. We are going to have some tragedies down the road, but we have to push for peace. I wish more folks would come aboard this train."

At Flipside's funeral, Joubert urged, "Don't just show up when there's a service. We need you all the time. If you love your community like you say, you need to help. The younger cats love the encouragement."

The night before the funeral, at Flipside's house, Ronald "Lowdown" Watkins, with whom White formed O.F.T.B., was convincing himself and others that retaliation against Grape Street was not an option.

Said Lowdown: "It's past rough. 'Rough' ain't even a word for it. I'm a rapper. I got a lot of words, but I'm at a loss of words when it comes to this shit right here."

But, in fact, he wasn't at a loss: "The cold part about it is, everything that we ever built for our whole life, do I let it go or do I keep going? There's no question about it. Keep going. We got kids. We got homies' kids whose fathers are dead. If we can't find a better way out of this, how can we expect them to? We ain't going back to going stupid. Not on my watch."

"Going stupid" would be driving though Jordan Downs and shooting anyone who resembled a Grape Street Crip.

This once was considered a proper reaction. And a leading contender to do something "stupid" used to be Bam.

That's Michael Herbert, 49, Flip's older brother. Released this year from Corcoran State Prison after serving 17 years on drug charges, he's haunted by Flip's killing yet determined not to strike back. "Now it's like he's my older brother and I need to listen to him and not do anything foolish," he says.

It isn't just hard-core ex-cons who seem to be different. LAPD Senior Lead Officer Robert Yanez says residents offered tips that, two hours after Brider and White were killed on Sept. 23, propelled him, alone in his squad car, to pull over the driver of a Chrysler Town & Country minivan.

Yanez tells the Weekly he saw two other men inside, slumped in their seats — and the sliding door open. Yanez's gun at "low ready" position, he called for backup. Cops arrested three men and found two guns.

One man, Kevin Phillips, 26, identified with the Grape Street Crips, pled not guilty to two counts of murder. One was held on a parole violation and the third was released.

Last week, rapper Lowdown Watkins poured some Hennessy on the ground near where his best friend died. "I'm used to going to every funeral with this nigga," Watkins said. "I'm used to everything that come up, some crisis, some problems, Flip 'n' me going there and dealing with it. But, damn, Flip can't come with me on this one."

Outdoor activity has been minimal at Jordan Downs since the killings on 114th Street. The vibe was akin to your next-door neighbor having done something bad — but you were going to be punished for it.

If they were waiting for a payback killing, for things to get "stupid," it hasn't come. And if Big Donny, Capt. T, Kartoon, Sgt. T and Lowdown have their way, it won't.

Investigation nabs alleged members of south Phoenix drug gang

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Wednesday, April 16, 2014
By JAMIE KILLIN
Cronkite News

PHOENIX – Authorities arrested 28 people Wednesday accused of being part of a south Phoenix gang distributing the hallucinogen PCP shipped in from Los Angeles.

About 300 members of law enforcement participated in the culmination of a five-month investigation dubbed Operation Southland, serving 18 search warrants and seizing marijuana, cocaine, weapons, vehicles, prescription pills and $27,000, according to Sgt. Chas Clements of the Phoenix Police Department.

Clements said during a news conference that authorities were looking for about 15 other suspects who were likely affiliated with the gang.

“The people we are arresting are very violent,” he said.

The investigation involved police from multiple cities, the Arizona Department of Public Safety’s Gang Intelligence Immigration Team Enforcement Mission (GITEM) task force and the Maricopa County Attorney’s Office.

It began when Pinal County resident who involved in a separate case reported to authorities purchasing PCP in South Phoenix, authorities said. Officers then discovered that the gang connection to Los Angeles.

According to Sgt. Tommy Thompson, a spokesman for the Phoenix Police Department, said the suspects were likely using the drug sales to fund criminal enterprises.

“In this case we found gang members who were selling drugs and we believe that were involved with violence as well, which is very common with illegal enterprises,” Thompson said.

Bart Graves, a DPS spokesman, said that the investigation will continue to ensure the entire operation is out of business.

“Just because we’re having a news conference to announce this doesn’t mean it’s wrapped up,” he said.

Thompson said Phoenix police will continue working with other law enforcement agencies in the future.

“One of the things that we find very beneficial is the synergistic relationship we have when we work with the state and local authorities,” he said.

The Phoenix Police Department provided the following names of those arrested and charges:

Richard Mitchell, 43: Transportation of narcotic drugs and/or sale, money laundering-concealing proceeds, assisting a street gang, transporting dangerous drugs and/or sale, using a building for drug sales/manufacture
Christopher Malone, 30: Transportation narcotic drugs and/or money laundering-concealing proceeds, assisting a street gang, transporting dangerous drugs and/or sale, using a building for drug sales/manufacture
Rodretta Chambers, 35: Transportation narcotic drugs and/or sale, money laundering-concealing proceeds, assisting a street gang, transporting dangerous drugs and/or sale, using a building for drug sales/manufacture
Troney Monroe, 35: Transportation narcotic drugs and/or dale, money laundering-concealing proceeds, assisting a street gang, using a building for drug sales/manufacture
Shontreil Nash, 35: Transportation narcotic drugs and/or sale, money laundering-concealing proceeds, assisting a street gang, use of an electronic communication device in drug sale
Felipe Luna, 24: Transportation narcotic drugs and/or sale, transportation of marijuana and/or sale, money laundering-concealing proceeds, assisting a street gang, using a building for drug sales/manufacture
Alleyne Oliver, 44: Transportation narcotic drugs, money laundering-concealing proceeds, assisting a street gang, using a building for drug sales/manufacture
Willie Hendrix, 40: Transportation narcotic drugs and/or sale, money laundering-concealing proceeds, assisting a street gang, transporting dangerous drugs and/or sale, using a building for drug sales/manufacture
Byron Finley, 38: Transportation narcotic drugs and/or sale, money laundering-concealing proceeds, assisting a street gang, transporting dangerous drugs and/or sale, using a building for drug sales/manufacture
Jerry Maroney, 58: Transportation narcotic drugs and/or sale, money laundering-owning a business, assisting a street gang, using a building for drug sales/manufacture, misdemeanor warrant
Walter Brooks, 48: Transportation narcotic drugs and/or sale, money laundering-concealing proceeds, assisting a street gang, transporting dangerous drugs and/or sale, using a building for drug sales/manufacture
Glen Hall, 57: Transportation narcotic drugs and/or sale, money laundering-concealing proceeds, assisting a street gang
Denisha Wooten, 30: Possession of dangerous drugs for sale, child endangerment, destruction of evidence
Angela Martinez, 34: Possession of dangerous drugs for sale, possession of dangerous drugs
Willie Dangerfield, 29: Narcotic violation, possession of drug paraphernalia, possession of felony warrant, resisting arrest and burglary
Edgar White, 42: Weapons violation-prohibited possessor, possession of marijuana for sale, theft/control of stolen property, transporting dangerous drugs
Rashelle Atkins, 38: Possession of Drug Paraphernalia
Jeffrey Suggs, 19: Felony warrant for failure to appear (marijuana charge)
James Stabler, 36: Child support warrant
Gregory McGill, 40: Possession of narcotic drugs (prescription only)
Erin Shepherd, 31: Possession of drug paraphernalia
Riley Ulrich, 31: Misdemeanor warrant

Found this in an intelligence bulletin.
http://www.justice.gov/archive/ndic/pubs8/8180/8180p.pdf

Production, Transportation, and Distribution
The chemicals required to illicitly produce PCP are readily available and inexpensive, and the produc- tion process does not require much knowledge of chemistry or laboratory equipment. Liquid PCP commonly is produced using a technique called the bucket method, in which chemicals are mixed in a bucket or trash can. Although it is a relatively simple method, the chemicals used to produce the drug are toxic and highly flammable. Piperidine, a PCP precursor, commonly is found at laboratory sites. Other chemicals may include bromobenzene, ether, hydrochloric acid, and potassium cyanide. Most PCP contains contaminants from its makeshift manufac- ture, resulting in a color ranging from tan to brown.
Laboratory seizure data and law enforcement reporting indicate that PCP production is limited and controlled predominantly by members of African American gangs, primarily Bloods and Crips, and criminal groups operating in California. DEA El Paso Intelligence Center (EPIC) National Clandestine Laboratory Seizure System (NCLSS) data indicate that of the 22 clandestine laboratories seized in the United States from 2000 through 2003, 18 were located in California. Mexican drug traf- ficking organizations (DTOs) and independent operators also produce PCP in the United States, although to a lesser extent.

Street Gangs Traffic PCP
Street gangs, primarily Bloods and Crips, are involved in the production, transportation, and distribution of PCP in the United States. These gangs, composed primarily of African American males, operate principally in the Los Angeles metropolitan area but are also present in several areas of the country, including the West Central, Pacific, and Southeast regions. Bloods and Crips distribute PCP and other illicit drugs and are in- volved in many other types of criminal activity, including assault, homicide, extortion, and robbery.
Produced primarily for domestic distribution, PCP is transported by package delivery services and in private vehicles, buses, and commercial aircraft to distribution centers including Baltimore, Chicago, Houston, Los Angeles, New York City, New Orleans, and Washington, D.C. Law enforce- ment reporting indicates that PCP produced in southern California is transported in private ve- hicles or by couriers aboard passenger trains to states such as Illinois, Kansas, Missouri, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Oklahoma, and Pennsyl- vania for retail distribution. In many instances, couriers attempt to conceal the amber-colored PCP in plastic shampoo, sports drink, gasoline, or mouthwash containers and glass whiskey, vinegar, or cleaning solution bottles. PCP is supplied to gang members and independent dealers for retail distribution from private residences and public housing projects. Retail-level distributors typically sell PCP at open-air markets in inner cities, on college campuses, and at raves.

Where I'm from we call it Wet

Wet dust sherm wiggles ..holla cheech want a pepsi

My friend on the East Coast in Philadelphia said that there's a lot of it there and how it's been that way since the 70s.

This article explains some of it but it's nothing "new" as the drug has been around for decades.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/20...eens-crazy.html

I know people who told me how they have used or smoked dust/wet/sherm and how it did not make them violent but they had trouble walking/moving, things were confusing, they felt very very drunk, and in high doses they had or thought they had an out of body experience.

Uh let me see , PCP a drug that has hydrochloric acid and potassium cyanide in it, and that is mixed in a garbage pail out back of the local biker club house by some probates old lady who happens to be a crack head tweaker. Yeah, let me get some of that shit.