@huronsocial


there's a crew operating in the south suburbs and northwest indiana

there are alot of rinky dink towns in the southburbs that they've been in for years

according to the book "the boys from the heights"

they basically killed each other from the 50-80s, then got hit hard by the feds

they still have the strip clubs in the southburbs so somethings going on

Wrong. You can read the documents provided by the U.S. Justice Department in the case, either of the two books written on the case, or any number of articles where Frank Calabrese specifically talks about going through the ceremony himself. I've read the transcripts of the tapes where he's talking to his son and describing taking the blood oath and burning the saint card, which he said he actually felt guilty about.

They could be posted right here but I suspect you would just claim it was "disinformation" from the feds. As if they needed to make up the ceremony angle to convict Calabrese and the rest.



According to the feds back in 2007, there were 4 crews remaining - Elmwood Park, Grand Avenue, Melrose Park, and 26th Street. More recently, in 2011, one FBI official in Chicago said the Outfit was down to "two or three" crews. I think it's safe to say Chicago Heights is gone.

What I'm saying is that the other two defunct crews mentioned are known to have been deactivated & it is known when it happened.

The information on how & When the Heights got deactivated is paltry & almost non existent. Cicero & Chinatown likely run that area, but it is possible that there could still be a legitimate crew down there. It isn't likely, but it's more likely than rush street/Taylor.

I don't know if "deactivated" is the most correct term. It was probably more a case of the Outfit streamlining and combining crews and territory as it downsized over the years.

As usual, you are completely clueless.
1. Chicago Heights is far from "gone", and anyone who has even lived in NE Illinois in the past 5 years would know that, even if they were not particularly interested.
2. Chicago has never, I'll say it again NEVER had a making ceremony. It has been part of their unique moniker for 70 years, and anyone who doesn't know that has no business discussing topics like this.
That's what happens when you "Never question the feds"....LOL
What a mook

Thank you....Ridiculous is the word i would use as well. Elmwood park is not only still very much active, but full of some of the best earners in all the LCN. They collectively control millions of dollars in Business and commercial properties on the NW side, the NW burbs and all the way up the I90 corridor to Rockford, and they along with the St Ambrosio crew are making a killing on the stimulus Money Rockford is spending. All anyone needs to do is see who actually owns those holding companies who are selling all of that property on North Main and west State set for demolition, not to mention a lock on everything from the port a potties to the heavy equipment

If they didn't have a making ceremony, they would not be listed as one of the American La Cosa Nostra families by the government. Of course there are many things the feds are completely unaware of, and obviously they have fabricated things for the public over the years. However, if the Outfit weren't traditional Cosa Nostra, they would cease to be listed as such. They would be considered a random street gang.

Yes, of course they were all Mafia. However, Ricca and all the old timers all the way up to the present never had a making Ceremony. The making Ceremony is New York and other places.

Chicago never did it that way and it had nothing to do with being part of the National Cosa Nostra even way back in 1931. Capone never had a making Ceremony and was considered part of the National Mafia Structure in 1931.

The making Ceremony is way over rated and means nothing in Chicago. Never did.

When Joey Lombardo said he never had his finger pricked or had a holy card burn in his hand, he was literally telling the truth. He obviously was lying about everything else.

The Feds schooled Nick Calabrese to say something about a making Ceremony along with a few other things he was told to say during the Family Secrets trial.

I would respectfully ask anyone else to show concrete proof of a making Ceremony in Chicago besides Nick Calabrese's "Story".

I would ask for you to show proof there never was , matter fact I can't believe you even used "concrete proof" what fucking proof have you provided?

I have two questions on this subject:
1. Was this the same structure back in Torrio & Capone days?
2. Why does structure indicates whether or not the Outfit is apart of the LCN umbrella?

You and Ivy League seem to suffer from the same misconception, that information from the Feds is accurate
Fellas, the Feds went to the God Damned SUPREME COURT for the right to lie, decieve, and plant decoy fales information into both their classified and public information, and they won.
I have to laugh when he said 'I never question the FEDs"
They lie..it's what they do

Capone entered into the LCN kicking and screaming, he hated the entire concept, so in the days follwing 1935, he went out of his way to buck the new traditions.
Within reason..structure does not dictate if they or any other family is LCN. Every family has variations in ceremony, rules and tradition.

LOL goddamn pal, why are you so on edge all the time? Calm the fuck down & ask questions civilly.