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Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #760092
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Looks like George will be consummating his marriage tonight wink I think I hear the Feds begging nicodemo as we speak.

Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #760093
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Wow that's great news for there families, everyone deserves a 2nd chance!!

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I think scoops walked out right away and had cocktails around the corner after the first trial. Well done by Jacobs and Warren.

Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #760096
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They should definitely be letting them both out today, there's gotta be cameras there waiting to see these guys walk out, for Borgesi it's gotta be surreal to actually be walking out, if he is everything people say about him is true, karma we'll come to get him. But just like when your at war and you kill the opposition, your not going to HELL considering both sides knew the stakes!! What is Rat finger Lou doing now? Lol he's gotta be crawling in a sewer somewhere to feel comfortable. Hahahaha you Rat fuckin [BadWord] shoulda been a man and ate your charge, he said he flipped because they were gonna kill him, but truth of the matter is if they did wanna kill him but he went to jail for 10+ by the time he came out all ill feelings woulda went away and he'd been considered a stand up guy! but instead he was an imposter who was just a wannabe and when the good times were done! he said "fuck this I quit" you rat Bitch this is what you deserve.
And where's jag off Han now and the other guy Labor? Where's you news conference now you scumbags, hope you guys feel good your going back to getting coffees for real States Attorneys, what an embarssement for Philadelphia Fed System lol Fuck Em

Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #760097
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Does Borgesi still owe time on his previous conviction or is he free and clear?

Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #760098
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Reporters starting to show up so far no tv crews on market street. Jacobs and Warren appear calm and in good spirits outside on a break obviously.

Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Jrtyler] #760099
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Originally Posted By: Jrtyler
Does Borgesi still owe time on his previous conviction or is he free and clear?

Pretty sure George maxed out...so he's free and clear.

Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #760100
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Does not make sense why they didn't let Borgesi out last week,I mean you can have it in for somebody but if the jury knew last week he's not guilty they just had to get every minute they could from him.Whether you like him or not that wasn't right.

Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #760103
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Pretty amazing. I hope the feds can the worthless prosecutors that brought this junior-varsity level legal case.


Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison.
I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate...
for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #760106
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Borgesi getting released this afternoon after 13 years - judge now deciding on what to do with uncle joe

Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: 22] #760107
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Originally Posted By: 22
Does not make sense why they didn't let Borgesi out last week,I mean you can have it in for somebody but if the jury knew last week he's not guilty they just had to get every minute they could from him.Whether you like him or not that wasn't right.


I told you Robreno was No Good!!!!

Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #760108
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Borgesi better watch his back. Feds clearly have a hard on for him considering the fact they even tried to re try him with such a weak case. Feds do not lose very often.

Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: moneyman] #760109
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Originally Posted By: moneyman
Borgesi better watch his back. Feds clearly have a hard on for him considering the fact they even tried to re try him with such a weak case. Feds do not lose very often.


There gonna be sending guys at him to ENTRAP him for sure, the whole crew really, can't wait to see there softball team back together lol
Philly Gotta Strong Crew wit the guys that are out!
Merlino
Mazzone
Borgesi
Chang
Lance
Ligambi
Narducci, that's prolly the upper echelon

Gaeton and Marty will be home soon too

Angelo's restaurant is gonna be booming in business by the way, wait till march and merlino Starts popping up everywhere with us guys
Good entertainment lol

Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #760110
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Aponick and Bfl were just not credible and the defense did their job.

Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Nice_Guy] #760111
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Originally Posted By: Nice_Guy
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Does not make sense why they didn't let Borgesi out last week,I mean you can have it in for somebody but if the jury knew last week he's not guilty they just had to get every minute they could from him.Whether you like him or not that wasn't right.

I told you Robreno was No Good!!!!

C'mon...tell us how you REALLY feel Nice Guy. lol

Your a funny guy. wink

Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #760112
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The Feds should reevaluate how they use RICO, not that they ever would but it really is way overused and these 2 trials proved it more than anything. In every city if your labeled MOB or OC you are fucked, these guys in Philly are really lucky that the govt basically came up with a terrible case! But usually the Feds can indict a hamburger and get a conviction, very very lucky...
Where's all the Govt Cheerleaders now, fucking idiots, rooting for a Govt that don't care about me or you, can't wait to read George A comments section, the wackos on there are prolly going crazy lol

Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Nice_Guy] #760113
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Originally Posted By: Nice_Guy
They should definitely be letting them both out today, there's gotta be cameras there waiting to see these guys walk out, for Borgesi it's gotta be surreal to actually be walking out, if he is everything people say about him is true, karma we'll come to get him. But just like when your at war and you kill the opposition, your not going to HELL considering both sides knew the stakes!! What is Rat finger Lou doing now? Lol he's gotta be crawling in a sewer somewhere to feel comfortable. Hahahaha you Rat fuckin [BadWord] shoulda been a man and ate your charge, he said he flipped because they were gonna kill him, but truth of the matter is if they did wanna kill him but he went to jail for 10+ by the time he came out all ill feelings woulda went away and he'd been considered a stand up guy! but instead he was an imposter who was just a wannabe and when the good times were done! he said "fuck this I quit" you rat Bitch this is what you deserve.
And where's jag off Han now and the other guy Labor? Where's you news conference now you scumbags, hope you guys feel good your going back to getting coffees for real States Attorneys, what an embarssement for Philadelphia Fed System lol Fuck Em


See if they were real LCN they would not forgive and certainly wouldn't forget

Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #760114
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I went back and read about the actual bank robberies by Aponick,that had to be one of the dumbest moves in federal history making him a federal witness.

Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #760115
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@giancarlo LolLol I love good cops and govt employees that do there job by the book, but for all the crooked cops and overreaching DAs and Judges that slam people on ridiculous convictions deserve to be stripped of there powers after they lose a case this big.....F%*K em ALL
LOL
I see Demotions coming, maybe they hire FrankMazola lol

Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #760116
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yo PB I finally got a prediction correct!


When Interpol?
Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #760118
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Officially called a mistrial no word if they will retry but doubtful.

Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Jose] #760120
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Originally Posted By: Jose
Officially called a mistrial no word if they will retry but doubtful.

Thanks Jose.

Have they mentioned how the voting was lining up on the hung counts? How many for convicting and how many against? Just wondering what the split was and if it was just one or two jurors against the others.

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Working on finding out. Crews starting to show up - expect everything to be done in the next hour - I'm sure Dave and George will have a Fox 29 report tonight. George has a way of finding things out pretty good so look out for his post too. Doesn't help that it's one of the coldest days of the year. Georgie could be a free man already.

Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #760123
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Good for Borgesi, I'm actually pretty surprised they didn't decide on the Uncle yet

Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #760124
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The age of the rat is over!


"McGurn likes you, so I make you. So you are now one of us, if you fuck up, we take it out on McGurn. He is your sponsor. Fuck up, it's his ass. You work in his crew, he is your capo."
Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #760125
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2 things I loved about Edwin Jacobs' Defense of Joe Ligambi.

1) Classification of these charges as "RICO lite".

2) Never denying the fact that they're mob members, but with the caveat that there technically isn't anything wrong with that.

2*) I think that is the successful way to defend a mob case in the post 9/11 generation of RICO trials. It was first used by Vincent Basciano's attorney in his 1 acquittal. I think it was Harrison Ford in 'Clear and Present Danger', "Why diffuse a bomb that has already gone off."


F. Mazola, Esq.
Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #760126
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I was in court when Jacobs went over this. To be entirely honest I didn't know it wasn't a crime to be involved in a club or an organization like the LCN. I would assume the jury thought the same thing. People hear the word mob or LCN and they assume one thing. Jacobs is real good and he reminds me of Cutler. Boisterous but commands respect in the courtroom. He's smart and it's hard not to agree wht what he presents. He doesn't come off like a jerk but an attorney that knows exactly what he's doing.

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Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #760127
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Hey frank Mazola what's the difference besides saying their in the Mob compared to saying they are ''made guys'' because when I was reading that transcript somebody posted about Ligambi's appeal from back in 97 that was a no no.One of the reasons for his new trial.

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Man I wonder if all the other defendants that got slammed have any chancre of appeal cause of these verdicts, I really hope so because massimino and canacalio got slammed, hopefully, because again I firmly disagree with Robreno on that one, anyways Anyone gonna post a pic of borgesi when he's freed on here? Or the Unc, c'mon Jose we all know we can count on you.. Lol

Re: Philly Mob Retrial News [Re: Giancarlo] #760129
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Philly is gonna get even more interesting now. Things like this can change a lot in the family. Them lawyers put up a hell of a fight.


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