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Re: United Criminal Alliance-U.C.A. Ireland. [Re: abc123] #762764
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Brother of murdered terror boss Ryan flees to hide out in Scotland.

KEN FOY CRIME CORRESPONDENT – 05 FEBRUARY 2014 02:30 PM

THE brother of slain Real IRA kingpin Alan Ryan has fled the country and is believed to be hiding out in Scotland, the Herald can reveal.

The development comes as the gang who murdered Ryan has been gripped by "major internal paranoia" over fears that at least one member is talking to gardai.

Alan's brother Vinny Ryan (23) is understood to have been based in Glasgow for the last six weeks where he has been joined by his older brother, Dermot.

However, unlike Vinny, Dermot has been spotted back at the family's home in Donaghmede in recent weeks.

He has also been doing "security" work at a Co Kildare pub.

Recently it emerged that dissident Republican gangs were working with local organised crime gangs in Scotland to generate funds, according to research.

And a small splinter dissident Republican faction loyal to the Ryan brothers has stepped up a campaign of extortion in recent weeks, the Herald has learned.

Alan Ryan was shot dead by the drugs gang led by so-called "Mr Big" in September, 2012, after a massive cash row between the two mobs.

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In October, Vinny and close pal Darragh Evans (23) were cleared by the Special Criminal Court of charges of possession of an assault rifle and a handgun at Clonshaugh Walk, Coolock, on September 15, 2011 – the same day drugs trafficker Michael 'Micka' Kelly was shot dead.

Kelly, nicknamed 'The Panda', had been in a deadly feud with Alan Ryan after he refused to cough up a five-figure cash sum to Ryan's Real IRA extortionist gang.

The non-jury court ruled there was an insufficient evidence from which a jury could find Vinny Ryan and Evans were guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

The court heard a garda probe began after the execution of Kelly on Marsfield Avenue in Clongriffin.

Gardai who searched a Saab 95 car recovered near Marsfield Avenue found an AKM assault rifle, an AK-47 style ammunition magazine, a Webley revolver and a Nike bag containing a lid from a Pringles crisp container.

Forensic scientist Dr Fiona Thornton told the court that a DNA profile matching that of Evans was found on the assault rifle and on the Pringles foil lid, while a DNA profile matching that of Vinny Ryan was found on the AK-47 style magazine.

However, under cross-examination she also agreed the incomplete, low-level DNA profiles could have been deposited by secondary or tertiary transfer.

kfoy@herald.ie


Working with crime gangs in Scotland, and everyone knows there is no fag Brit gang that will mess with the Irish. I thought they were dead abe?

You seem to be doing a good job of keeping them alive.

The only cause I'm interested in keeping alive is that of a united Ireland. West Brits like you have an agenda. Wouldn't be surprised if you and 'British' were the same person.


Last edited by SEAN_SOUTH; 02/09/14 08:51 PM.

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Remeber Fergal O'Hanluain who died aged just 20 years old courageously fighting the Brits on the border so don't try to call me out cos I would wipe your clock if you ever tried to undermine the bravery of my family in favour of a band of no good drug pushers whose only bravery comes from the coke they snort up their nose.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAQfJ5AZRyk


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'So I say, “Live and let live.” That’s my motto. “Live and let live.” Anyone who can’t go along with that, take him outside and shoot the motherfucker. It’s a simple philosophy, but it’s always worked in our family.'

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Dear Mr Sean South,

Irish Republican Voice.

Was just a gang who will not be around long ? recall YOU said that on Criminal Action Force Thread on CAF, WRONG AGAIAN.

The Republicans was the gang not around long.



Newsflash buddy, the Brit propaganda press have been putting out this crap since the 1700's.

I think you're a West brit abe, why don't you go and polish your Royal memorabilia instead of calling me out every time the Brit press prints another bullshit story about the death of Irish Republicanism.

Michael Campbell had his conviction overturned or didn't you read the news. You just print selected slurs to support your weird love affair with Irish dope pushers who are a dime a dozen.

Either that or some Brit propaganda about how the IRA are over and the Brits will conquer all and Irish Republicanism is dead...

But hey, according to British intelligence they remain a major threat and how comes they never managed to snag slab Murphy of the british intelligence is so fucking great?

You're a West brit abe, admit it.

West brit orangemen, I am now lol.

Sean, Brit propaganda did not put out the statement IRV group did who was part of the Real IRA in Dublin with Alan Ryan so cop yourself on.

Slab Murphy was never with the reals he was with pira.

Michael Campbell had his conviction overturned ? so what.

The Real IRA got a hiding of the U.C.A. NOW YOU admit it.

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Whacked hood Devoy's crony flees to UK.

The crime partner of slain Dublin hood Michael ‘Mickey’ Devoy tearfully told gardai that he is fleeing the country because he fears he is going to be whacked.

The criminal had been told by gardai that his life was under threat over his links to Devoy, who was gunned down in a gangland feud.

Mickey Devoy was blamed for a failed murder bid on drug dealer Greg Lynch last October and a hitman from Dundalk took up a contract to murder Devoy, his partner and the man’s brother.

The under-threat man, who is not regarded as a serious player in gangland, walked into Store Street Garda station in Dublin city centre and asked to speak to detectives.

The hood, from Ballymun on the city’s northside, broke down as he told startled officers that he knew he would be murdered if he did not immediately leave the country.

He knows he is a ‘dead man walking’ and is understood to have taken a flight to the UK. It is understood that his brother also left with him. Before he left he refused to make a statement outlining his fears and would not even take up the offer of personal security advice.

Gardai had been fearful that he would be the next victim of the Lynch mob and they believe that tensions will reduce considerably now that he has left Ireland.

He was not present when Devoy was buried last Wednesday as most of Devoy’s criminal cronies shunned the funeral.

There was a massive garda presence at the church in Finglas and at Glasnevin cemetery, but the turnout was very low and, aside from one mourner trying to attack press photographers, it passed off without incident.

The prime suspect in the murder of 42-year-old Devoy is believed to have been paid €20,000 for the murder and the same amount is believed to be on the table for the heads of the dead man’s pal and his brother.

Associates of Christy Kinahan and drug dealer Greg Lynch have put up the money in revenge for Devoy trying to murder the 28-year-old last October.

Devoy tried to get rid of Lynch because he was expanding his territory from Dublin’s south-inner city to Coolock and Ballymun, where Devoy operated.

However the shooter failed to finish off Lynch and he survived after losing half his jaw. It was then a case of when, not if, Devoy would be murdered. Underworld justice finally caught up with him 13 days ago when he was shot three times in the head and dumped by the side of the road near Tallaght.

He narrowly escaped two murder bids in the fortnight before he was shot dead and the man who took out the contract on him was arrested close to Devoy’s house in Ballymun.

He is believed to have been staking him out and three days later a sophisticated bomb was left under Devoy’s car.

Last week we revealed that the hitman who shot Devoy was one of his brother’s closest pals.

The 40-year-old suspected triggerman was a close pal of Devoy’s brother Derek ‘Bottler’ Devoy.

The pair were involved with a Finglas-based mob led by Martin ‘Marlo’ Hyland and later Eamon ‘the Don’ Dunne. Both worked as enforcers for the gang and they were “inseparable” for years, according to sources.

However, the former Provo has now distanced himself from the gangs and is operating as a ‘freelance” hitman.

Gardai believe that he is still in the country although several searches have so far failed to locate him.

When Bottler Devoy heard the news that his former friend had been responsible for killing his beloved brother he smashed up his cell in Mountjoy prison, where the 30-year-old is serving a seven- year sentence for armed robbery.

Gardai fear that associates of the Devoys will attempt to hit back against the Lynch mob.

Michael Devoy was a veteran criminal with more than 70 convictions to his name.

He was the chief suspect in the murder of 30 year-old Mark Byrne in May 2005. Byrne had just been released from Mountjoy prison and walked out of a shop after buying phone credit when a gunman shot him dead. The murder was later re-created on RTE drama Love/Hate.

The Ballymun man was arrested over the murder and gardai were hopeful there was enough evidence to charge him, but the DPP disagreed. He associated with major criminals from Finglas and Ballymun who are very unhappy with his murder.

Greg Lynch is the leader of a 60-strong drugs gang that is responsible for armed robberies and tiger kidnappings.

He is one of the main targets of the new anti-gang unit based at Kevin Street Garda Station. Gardai class him as one of the city’s biggest drug distributors.

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Trinity College graduate guilty of possession of handguns and ammo.

A Trinity College graduate and two men who were intercepted by armed gardai outside the premises of a firearms dealer have been found guilty of the possession of handguns and ammunition.

Ursula Shannon (30), who is a Trinity College graduate and prominent member of socialist republican group Eirigi, and her co-accused John McGreal (37) were remanded on continuing bail following the judgement of the Special Criminal Court today and will be sentenced at later date.

Co-accused Colin Brady (24), who was granted bail but did avail of it, was remanded in custody. The non-jury court heard that the accused were wearing wigs and disguises when they were intercepted by armed gardai outside a residential premises which also doubled as a business for a licensed firearms seller.

CCTV footage of the interception of the stolen van they were travelling in was played to the court and the prosecution invited the court to infer that the people in the van were there to rob the shop and steal the firearms on the premises.

The accused had pleaded not guilty to the possession of two handguns and 32 rounds of ammunition at Tullybeg, Rahan, Co Offaly on November 27th, 2012, but had not challenged any of the evidence in the case.

They had pleaded not guilty to the unlawful possession of one 9mm parabellum calibre Taurus PT92 semi-automatic pistol, one magazine suitable for use with the Taurus PT92 pistol, one 9mm parabellum calibre Walther P5 semi-automatic pistol and one ZGJY branded combined stun gun and flashlight.

They had also each pleaded not guilty to the possession of 25 rounds of 9mm ammunition and 7 rounds of 9mm ammunition.

The court heard evidence that interviews were conducted with the accused where Sections 18, 19 and 19A of the Criminal Justice Act 1984 as amended by the Criminal Justice Act 2007 were invoked.

The sections allow a judge or jury to draw inferences from an accused’s failure or refusal to account for an object, substance or mark, or any mark on such object, or failure to account for their presence at a particular place. The judge or jury may treat this as corroborative of other evidence against the accused.

There was evidence that John McGreal remained silent when questions were put to him where the sections were invoked in interview, while Shannon and Brady answered “no comment” when questions were put to them.

Returning judgement, presiding judge Mr Justice Paul Butler said the court was satisfied beyond doubt that each of the accused was in possession of the items referred to in the indictment.

He said the court was also satisfied that the failure of the accused to respond to questions in interview where the sections were invoked entitled the court to draw inferences in each case corroborating the evidence of possession.

By reason of this, Mr Justice Butler said the court found the three accused guilty of the offences with which they were charged.

It was the prosecution case that on the date in question gardai were in receipt of confidential information that a stolen vehicle would be used as part of an operation by dissident republicans for a theft at a property in Co Offaly.

The court heard that a search of the vehicle revealed the two handguns and the stungun along with the ammunition, cable ties, wigs and disguises.

Gardai gave evidence that the accused had taken some steps to conceal their physical appearance, and were wearing layers of clothing to make them appear heavier than they actually were. There was evidence that Shannon and McGreal were also wearing wigs.

Mr Justice Butler remanded McGreal, who has an address at Thornchase, Palmer Road, Rush and Shannon, of Inglewood Crescent, Clonsilla, on continuing bail until February 18 for sentencing.

He remanded Mr Brady, of Ashgrove, Baskin Lane, Kinsealy, in custody until that date.

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Originally Posted By: SEAN_SOUTH
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Dear Mr Sean South,

Irish Republican Voice.

Was just a gang who will not be around long ? recall YOU said that on Criminal Action Force Thread on CAF, WRONG AGAIAN.

The Republicans was the gang not around long.



Newsflash buddy, the Brit propaganda press have been putting out this crap since the 1700's.

I think you're a West brit abe, why don't you go and polish your Royal memorabilia instead of calling me out every time the Brit press prints another bullshit story about the death of Irish Republicanism.

Michael Campbell had his conviction overturned or didn't you read the news. You just print selected slurs to support your weird love affair with Irish dope pushers who are a dime a dozen.

Either that or some Brit propaganda about how the IRA are over and the Brits will conquer all and Irish Republicanism is dead...

But hey, according to British intelligence they remain a major threat and how comes they never managed to snag slab Murphy of the british intelligence is so fucking great?

You're a West brit abe, admit it.

West brit orangemen, I am now lol.

Sean, Brit propaganda did not put out the statement IRV group did who was part of the Real IRA in Dublin with Alan Ryan so cop yourself on.

Slab Murphy was never with the reals he was with pira.

Michael Campbell had his conviction overturned ? so what.

The Real IRA got a hiding of the U.C.A. NOW YOU admit it.


The Real IRA is the IRA now and the Brit press used to print articles saying Martin Cahill's group of lowlife junkies gave them a hiding and look what happened to him.

Have the IRA been wiped out. By the U.C.A. lol


Abe, I want some of whatever you're on cos that's hilarious. All you do is print selected articles that fit your agenda and eveyone's onto you abe, you're a West Brit.

Last edited by SEAN_SOUTH; 02/13/14 07:41 PM.

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Originally Posted By: SEAN_SOUTH
Originally Posted By: abc123
Dear Mr Sean South,

Irish Republican Voice.

Was just a gang who will not be around long ? recall YOU said that on Criminal Action Force Thread on CAF, WRONG AGAIAN.

The Republicans was the gang not around long.



Newsflash buddy, the Brit propaganda press have been putting out this crap since the 1700's.

I think you're a West brit abe, why don't you go and polish your Royal memorabilia instead of calling me out every time the Brit press prints another bullshit story about the death of Irish Republicanism.

Michael Campbell had his conviction overturned or didn't you read the news. You just print selected slurs to support your weird love affair with Irish dope pushers who are a dime a dozen.

Either that or some Brit propaganda about how the IRA are over and the Brits will conquer all and Irish Republicanism is dead...

But hey, according to British intelligence they remain a major threat and how comes they never managed to snag slab Murphy of the british intelligence is so fucking great?

You're a West brit abe, admit it.

West brit orangemen, I am now lol.

Sean, Brit propaganda did not put out the statement IRV group did who was part of the Real IRA in Dublin with Alan Ryan so cop yourself on.

Slab Murphy was never with the reals he was with pira.

Michael Campbell had his conviction overturned ? so what.

The Real IRA got a hiding of the U.C.A. NOW YOU admit it.


Has Slab Murphy given up his criminal activities? If the Brits are so good at surveillance and they got so many rats then why can't they snag him or put Campbell away in the slammer?

Simple questions Brit, remain unanswered.

And why are you so obsessed with a bunch of dime a dozen junkies? I don't get it abe you seem to have some puerile fixation with the UCA but the IRA's main operations are in the north and they have ran a successful campaign considering the millions of pounds f surveillance they are up against.

I don't see why you're a groupie for a bunch of dime a dozen drug dealers.

I agree that the dissident organisations have been deeply infiltrated more due to the calibre of the people they attract like low level criminals and drug abusers pf the type you seem to adore for some reason. But they also have many dedicated pros expert at counter-surveillance and who even had the Dublin police under surveillance themselves so they are hardly amateurs. The UCA are just pests and small fry. The IRA have bigger fish to fry.

But Gerard obviously has a chip against Sinn Fein and his former comrades as his arguments don't stack up to the facts. He states that the Eskund was never going to reach Ireland yet it was on its fifth run the other ones being successful. Everyone knows he's a West Brit and that you've selectively chosen to reveal his musings reveals your true colors.

When head of British Intelligence found out that four runs had been successful he told the British Government it was time to start a peace process. If the IRA had been infiltrated to the level that Gerard states then England especially the financial district would not have been allowed to be bombed which prompted the European Central Bank to site itself in Frankfurt losing billions to the British economy.


A recent unveiled British Army report stated that the IRA were undefeated and could remain so in the foreseeable future. It was lucky that Republicans had a leadership of the likes of Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness that could deliver a peace strategy that has allowed Republicans to achieve their goals in a peaceful manner. Gerard may be bitter but he should not allow that to attempt to revise history.

Neither should you abe wink


Last edited by SEAN_SOUTH; 02/13/14 08:00 PM.

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George Carlin
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Originally Posted By: abc123


Originally Posted By: SEAN_SOUTH
Originally Posted By: abc123
Dear Mr Sean South,

Irish Republican Voice.

Was just a gang who will not be around long ? recall YOU said that on Criminal Action Force Thread on CAF, WRONG AGAIAN.

The Republicans was the gang not around long.



Newsflash buddy, the Brit propaganda press have been putting out this crap since the 1700's.

I think you're a West brit abe, why don't you go and polish your Royal memorabilia instead of calling me out every time the Brit press prints another bullshit story about the death of Irish Republicanism.

Michael Campbell had his conviction overturned or didn't you read the news. You just print selected slurs to support your weird love affair with Irish dope pushers who are a dime a dozen.

Either that or some Brit propaganda about how the IRA are over and the Brits will conquer all and Irish Republicanism is dead...

But hey, according to British intelligence they remain a major threat and how comes they never managed to snag slab Murphy of the british intelligence is so fucking great?

You're a West brit abe, admit it.

West brit orangemen, I am now lol.

Sean, Brit propaganda did not put out the statement IRV group did who was part of the Real IRA in Dublin with Alan Ryan so cop yourself on.

Slab Murphy was never with the reals he was with pira.

Michael Campbell had his conviction overturned ? so what.

The Real IRA got a hiding of the U.C.A. NOW YOU admit it.


The Real IRA is the IRA now and the Brit press used to print articles saying Martin Cahill's group of lowlife junkies gave them a hiding and look what happened to him.

Have the IRA been wiped out. By the U.C.A. lol


Abe, I want some of whatever you're on cos that's hilarious. All you do is print selected articles that fit your agenda and eveyone's onto you abe, you're a West Brit.


Martin Cahill was not killed by IRA Sean, lol everyone knows that 15 years or more.

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Originally Posted By: SEAN_SOUTH
Originally Posted By: abc123


Originally Posted By: SEAN_SOUTH
Originally Posted By: abc123
Dear Mr Sean South,

Irish Republican Voice.

Was just a gang who will not be around long ? recall YOU said that on Criminal Action Force Thread on CAF, WRONG AGAIAN.

The Republicans was the gang not around long.



Newsflash buddy, the Brit propaganda press have been putting out this crap since the 1700's.

I think you're a West brit abe, why don't you go and polish your Royal memorabilia instead of calling me out every time the Brit press prints another bullshit story about the death of Irish Republicanism.

Michael Campbell had his conviction overturned or didn't you read the news. You just print selected slurs to support your weird love affair with Irish dope pushers who are a dime a dozen.

Either that or some Brit propaganda about how the IRA are over and the Brits will conquer all and Irish Republicanism is dead...

But hey, according to British intelligence they remain a major threat and how comes they never managed to snag slab Murphy of the british intelligence is so fucking great?

You're a West brit abe, admit it.

West brit orangemen, I am now lol.

Sean, Brit propaganda did not put out the statement IRV group did who was part of the Real IRA in Dublin with Alan Ryan so cop yourself on.

Slab Murphy was never with the reals he was with pira.

Michael Campbell had his conviction overturned ? so what.

The Real IRA got a hiding of the U.C.A. NOW YOU admit it.


Has Slab Murphy given up his criminal activities? If the Brits are so good at surveillance and they got so many rats then why can't they snag him or put Campbell away in the slammer?

Simple questions Brit, remain unanswered.

And why are you so obsessed with a bunch of dime a dozen junkies? I don't get it abe you seem to have some puerile fixation with the UCA but the IRA's main operations are in the north and they have ran a successful campaign considering the millions of pounds f surveillance they are up against.

I don't see why you're a groupie for a bunch of dime a dozen drug dealers.

I agree that the dissident organisations have been deeply infiltrated more due to the calibre of the people they attract like low level criminals and drug abusers pf the type you seem to adore for some reason. But they also have many dedicated pros expert at counter-surveillance and who even had the Dublin police under surveillance themselves so they are hardly amateurs. The UCA are just pests and small fry. The IRA have bigger fish to fry.

But Gerard obviously has a chip against Sinn Fein and his former comrades as his arguments don't stack up to the facts. He states that the Eskund was never going to reach Ireland yet it was on its fifth run the other ones being successful. Everyone knows he's a West Brit and that you've selectively chosen to reveal his musings reveals your true colors.

When head of British Intelligence found out that four runs had been successful he told the British Government it was time to start a peace process. If the IRA had been infiltrated to the level that Gerard states then England especially the financial district would not have been allowed to be bombed which prompted the European Central Bank to site itself in Frankfurt losing billions to the British economy.


A recent unveiled British Army report stated that the IRA were undefeated and could remain so in the foreseeable future. It was lucky that Republicans had a leadership of the likes of Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness that could deliver a peace strategy that has allowed Republicans to achieve their goals in a peaceful manner. Gerard may be bitter but he should not allow that to attempt to revise history.

Neither should you abe wink



Has Slab Murphy given up his criminal activities? If the Brits are so good at surveillance and they got so many rats then why can't they snag him or put Campbell away in the slammer?

Simple questions Brit, remain unanswered.?

i don't know why Murphy is not in jail but ?

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analys...y-26485692.html

At the time of the raids, RTE's Tommy Gorman asked the Sinn Fein president what he thought of Slab Murphy and the various claims about his involvement in smuggling and crime. Adams replied: "Tom Murphy is not a criminal. He's a good republican. I read his statement after the Manchester raids. I believe what he says. He's also, and very importantly, a key supporter of the Sinn Fein peace strategy and has been for a very long time." The property, cash and other items referred to in Friday's hearings are the tip of the iceberg in terms of the earnings made by the IRA in south Armagh, gardai and English police believe.

The Campbell's have been in jail a lot over the years.

I agree that the dissident organisations have been deeply infiltrated more due to the calibre of the people they attract like low level criminals and drug abusers pf the type you seem to adore for some reason. But they also have many dedicated pros expert at counter-surveillance and who even had the Dublin police under surveillance themselves so they are hardly amateurs. The UCA are just pests and small fry. The IRA have bigger fish to fry. ?

Yes as people have said for years Real IRA in Dublin as hoods with not a Republican bone in their body and deeply infiltrated.

A recent unveiled British Army report stated that the IRA were undefeated and could remain so in the foreseeable future. It was lucky that Republicans had a leadership of the likes of Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness that could deliver a peace strategy that has allowed Republicans to achieve their goals in a peaceful manner. Gerard may be bitter but he should not allow that to attempt to revise history.

It was lucky Republicans Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness deliver a peace strategy ?

lol are you mad they sent men to their deaths for years cowards of the 32 county's is all they are were under british protection for years when british loyalist death squads was killing people in collision with the force research unit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_Research_Unit now if you think they could never get Adams McGuinness or Murphy for that matter you better think again








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Sean look at this.

There is no appetite for terror campaign, says top dissident.

There is no appetite for the ongoing campaign of dissident republican violence, a leading dissident has said.

Dominic McGlinchey Jnr, 36, whose father of the same name was the notorious INLA leader before his 1994 murder, said that republicans opposed to Sinn Fein’s strategy needed to “have a conversation about the future of the republican movement”.

The intervention by Mr McGlinchey comes as the latest in a lengthening line of veteran republicans at variance with Sinn Fein who have spoken out about the futility of the continuing campaign of bombings and shootings.

Several former IRA men have given interviews to the News Letter in which they have urged fellow republican opponents of Sinn Fein to desist from violence.

In December, former prisoner Anthony McIntyre told this newspaper: “Republicans lost the war and the IRA campaign failed and the dissidents need to be told that it failed rather than be allowed to continue thinking what they do.”

Richard O’Rawe said at that time that the dissidents’ “whole campaign is insane” and should stop.

Mr McGlinchey — who has vigorously denied an allegation that he had any involvement in the 2009 Massereene murders and has never been charged in relation to the attack — told the Irish News: “I don’t believe the appetite exists among the people. That’s not to say there is not considerable support among certain segments of republicanism for particular types of resistance but what is very clear is that the appetite is not there for a full-blown campaign.”

He added that dissidents needed to consider if “certain tactics are holding you back from entering a new field of battle”.

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New terror alert as British Army hit by mail bombs.

TOM BRADY, SECURITY EDITOR – 14 FEBRUARY 2014

SUSPECTED explosive devices sent to British Army recruitment offices were sent by the New IRA Alliance, it is believed.

Garda anti-terrorist officers are now working closely with the PSNI to combat the new campaign.

Seven crude explosive devices were sent to British Army recruitment centres over the past three days. And it has been established that at least one of them was mailed from a Border county in the Republic.

None of the suspicious parcels exploded and they were dealt with by British Army bomb disposal experts.

Last night, the packages were undergoing forensic tests and officers were awaiting further details on the postmarks.

Security chiefs on both sides of the Border believe the parcels were sent by associates of a senior New IRA Alliance figure, based in Derry city.

This man is the former leader of the Real IRA in the city and had links in the past with the group led by murdered Dublin terrorist Alan Ryan.

The man had previously boasted that his gang would launch a campaign of violence in Britain, but so far their activities have been confined to the North.

The PSNI believe these latest attacks are linked to a letter bomb campaign in Belfast and Derry last October.

A spokeswoman for British Prime Minister David Cameron said that the devices bore all the hallmarks of "Northern Ireland-related terrorism".

Four parcels were discovered at British Army careers offices in Oxford, Brighton, Canterbury and the Queensmere shopping centre in Slough yesterday.

Another package was found in Aldershot, Hampshire, on Wednesday while two packets were intercepted on Tuesday at careers offices in Reading, Berkshire, and the British army and RAF recruitment building in Chatham, Kent. Following the discovery of the packages, Mr Cameron chaired a meeting of the British government's Cobra emergencies committee to discuss the threat posed by the new campaign.

The packages were said to be crudely designed but potentially viable and could have caused injury if they had exploded when opened.

The New IRA Alliance was formed in the summer of 2012 when four established dissident groups came together.

These included several factions of the Real IRA, the ONH faction, Derry-based Republican Action Against Drugs and another group comprised of former members of the Provisional IRA.

Gardai are also helping with the attempts to identify the postmarks on the packages and checks are being made with mail centres in a number of Border counties.



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Feared city gangsters in tit-for-tat feud over woman.

BY KEN FOY CRIME CORRESPONDENT – 14 FEBRUARY 2014 02:30 AM

A gangland feud has broken out in north Dublin between two criminals over a young woman.

The dispute centres on exiled crimelord Paschal Kelly and a drug-dealing rival, the Herald has learned.

Sources say that Kelly (48) has issued death threats from his hideaway in Spain's Costa-Del-Crime against the other man and has also ordered his gang members to carry out surveillance.

The car of a woman connected to Kelly's rival has been burnt out in recent weeks and, in a revenge attack, the home of a female relative of Kelly's was smashed up in the Edenmore estate in Raheny.

Neither of the women has any involvement in the feud and were singled out as "easy targets".

Sources say that Kelly has stepped up a campaign of intimidation against his rival who is believed to be refusing to back down in the tit-for-tat row.

Kelly's rival has links to a Coolock criminal who is on the run after being charged in relation to a 2011 drug-linked killing in Dublin's north inner city.

A source said: "This could get really messy. Kelly is at the top of the crime food chain, but no one is backing down here.

"What's causing concern is that innocent women are being dragged into a very complicated, deep-rooted feud."

On-the-run Kelly (48) is a member of the gang gardai believe killed Real IRA chief Alan Ryan.

This month his Co Cavan home was seized by the Criminal Assets Bureau.

He bought the bungalow in 2004 for €190,000 but it is now estimated to worth between €250,000 and €275,000.

Kelly, who is involved in a number of brutal gangland and personal feuds, has been described in court as having links to a tiger-kidnapping gang.

The Herald has learned he has been hiding in Spain since getting bail in the North last October, where he was facing money laundering charges.

Sources say he ripped up electronic tags placed on him and used a disguise to flee.

Kelly's girlfriend has not been seen at her Co Dublin home for months. She is believed to have joined him in Spain.

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I suppose now you're going to tell me your beloved Brit media were wrong for once lol

"Within hours of Cahill's murder, the Provisional IRA claimed responsibility in a press release. The reasons cited were Cahill's alleged involvement with a Portadown unit of the Ulster Volunteer Force. The unit in question had attempted a bomb attack on a south Dublin pub which was hosting a Sinn Féin fund-raiser on 21 May 1994. The UVF operatives were halted by the doorman Martin Doherty. In the ensuing struggle Doherty, who the IRA subsequently announced was a volunteer in their Dublin Brigade, was shot dead.[9][10] The Provisionals further alleged that Cahill had been involved in selling the stolen Beit paintings to the UVF gang led by Billy Wright.[11] The UVF then fenced the paintings for money, which they used to buy guns from South Africa. This act supposedly sealed Cahill's fate, and put him at the top of an IRA hit list.[12] In a later statement, the IRA said that it was Cahill's involvement with and assistance to pro-British death squads which forced us to act."[13]

Abe, you have been completely found out as a West Brit, Martin Cahill was killed by dissident Republicans and just like today's junkie scumbags Martin Cahill died just another deadbeat bum. My cousin lives in Rathmines and witnessed the slaying it was common knowledge it was the IRA but I suppose now you're going to tell me it was one of your superhero bums lol

Your pro-Brit agenda is so obvious abe it's painful you ain't kidding no-one.


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I suppose now you're going to tell me your beloved Brit media were wrong for once lol

"Within hours of Cahill's murder, the Provisional IRA claimed responsibility in a press release. The reasons cited were Cahill's alleged involvement with a Portadown unit of the Ulster Volunteer Force. The unit in question had attempted a bomb attack on a south Dublin pub which was hosting a Sinn Féin fund-raiser on 21 May 1994. The UVF operatives were halted by the doorman Martin Doherty. In the ensuing struggle Doherty, who the IRA subsequently announced was a volunteer in their Dublin Brigade, was shot dead.[9][10] The Provisionals further alleged that Cahill had been involved in selling the stolen Beit paintings to the UVF gang led by Billy Wright.[11] The UVF then fenced the paintings for money, which they used to buy guns from South Africa. This act supposedly sealed Cahill's fate, and put him at the top of an IRA hit list.[12] In a later statement, the IRA said that it was Cahill's involvement with and assistance to pro-British death squads which forced us to act."[13]

Abe, you have been completely found out as a West Brit, Martin Cahill was killed by dissident Republicans and just like today's junkie scumbags Martin Cahill died just another deadbeat bum. My cousin lives in Rathmines and witnessed the slaying it was common knowledge it was the IRA but I suppose now you're going to tell me it was one of your superhero bums lol

Your pro-Brit agenda is so obvious abe it's painful you ain't kidding no-one.



Sean, you like to flog the dead horse all the time your very easy to debate Martin Cahill IRA statements was a pack of lies full stop.

INLA killed him for attack he'd nothing to do with...

CORMAC LOONEY – 27 OCTOBER 2011 10:05 AM

MARTIN CAHILL was not involved in the Widow Scallan's shooting the attack which may have cost him his life.

New information has come to light which reveals that a Belfast wing of the UVF were the sole suspects for carrying out the 1991 pub attack in which an IRA man was shot dead.

The General was blamed for assisting the UVF, but a new book by crime reporter Paul Williams reveals that the gardai and RUC did not consider him a suspect.

Despite this, the IRA claimed Cahill co-operated with loyalists to carry out the shooting, triggering a dispute between the General and republicans which culminated in this murder three years later.

"In the wake of the Widow Scallan's incident there was intense speculation that a criminal gang from Dublin had assisted the hit team. The Provos soon pointed the finger of suspicion at their old adversary Martin Cahill," Williams writes in Badfellas.







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"Neither Cahill nor any Dublin criminals were involved in the attack. Both the RUC and the gardai established that a UVF group from Belfast was actually responsible."

And despite claims that Cahill's gang supplied the car used in the incident it has emerged that the vehicle, a Triumph Acclaim, had been bought a day before the shooting, from a car dealer in Lurgan.

Although police believed that Cahill was innocent of any involvement, Dublin criminals John Gilligan and John Traynor told the IRA he was involved in the shooting regardless, Williams writes.

"Gilligan and Traynor were two people the Provos didn't have to approach for information. Factory John and The Coach had begun plotting the murder of their former pal but if the Provos -- or the INLA-- did it for them, then so much the better."

The pub shooting kicked off a chain of events which eventually saw Cahill in a dispute with INLA figures in Dublin. The culmination of this was his murder outside his Rathmines home on August 18, 1994. Gardai believe the INLA was responsible for the attack.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/a-woman-in-the-way-of-a-drug-barons-ambitions-26420738.html

There is a theory that Martin Cahill was murdered by the Provisional IRA because he was dealing with the loyalist Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF). This version suggests that the arrest in Istanbul of three UVF men trying to sell three Beit paintings was evidence of Cahill's links to the loyalists.

When Cahill was shot dead in August 1994, the IRA issued a statement saying that he had been killed because he had been in cahoots with the loyalists. They claimed he had helped them carry out a failed bomb attack on a Sinn Fein function at the Widow Scallan's pub in Dublin earlier that year, in which an IRA doorman had been shot dead.

The UVF have always denied this and claimed they had never heard of Martin Cahill until he was shot dead. But they did say their members had bought three paintings through an intermediary, Tommy Coyle, a leading underworld "fence" based in Drogheda who was known throughout the British and Irish underworld.

The Mid-Ulster UVF had apparently made a deal with Coyle and took the paintings as payment, they say.

A few weeks later the IRA called its first ceasefire..

It was not until a few years later, however, that a more plausible version of events came to light -- and John Traynor was at the centre of it.

After the murder of Veronica Guerin, a semi-autonomous investigation team was set up in Lucan Garda Station under the direction of Assistant Commissioner Tony Hickey.

The Lucan team quickly discovered that John Traynor had been an informant for someone high up in the gardai. Given his relationship with Gilligan, Traynor was also a suspect in the murder.

As the Lucan team delved into Traynor's activities, this separate version of events surrounding Cahill's murder emerged. Traynor had negotiated a deal between Cahill and Gilligan that would effectively set up Gilligan's drug-importing empire.

Cahill had a large amount of cash that he needed to invest for his retirement -- he was suffering from worsening health due to diabetes. He agreed to put up a large sum, up to £600,000, to finance Gilligan's first large shipment of cannabis from his Lebanese contact in Amsterdam. In return, Gilligan would repay Cahill the £600,000, plus another £600,000, along with a percentage of all subsequent shipments. With Traynor present, a deal was struck. Within 18 months of his release from Portlaoise in 1993, John Gilligan was in the big time. The shipment came through; but he still had to pay about £1.2m to the ailing Martin Cahill.

The Lucan detectives discovered that at around the same time, Traynor had struck up a close relationship with the group called the Irish National Liberation Army (INLA). This was little less than a few dozen ex-paramilitaries who still traded on the name of one of the most murderous terrorist groups to have emerged in the Troubles.

Traynor had used the Dublin INLA to pass several hundred thousand pounds- worth of dud cheques.

Although small in number, the INLA did have several members who were proficient in the use of firearms. More importantly, the INLA leadership had had a dispute with Martin Cahill, who had publicly humiliated them. They wanted revenge.

Gilligan was faced with the situation where he could either pay Martin Cahill a huge portion of his profits, or not. The latter required that Cahill be killed. It is believed that, through Traynor, the INLA was recruited to make that happen.

To shift the blame, the INLA arranged for their friends in the Dublin IRA to claim responsibility. It is believed that the INLA and IRA received £30,000 each for their part, with further payments in guns and cash as part of a "protection" deal for Gilligan and his gang. Gilligan was now in business, and Traynor was the king-maker who put him there.

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Sean south you aint Irish, your a plastic paddy that does not have a clue

Fact is us British have pissed all over your cowardly terrorists for years

IRA stands for I Ran Away....


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I suppose now you're going to tell me your beloved Brit media were wrong for once lol

"Within hours of Cahill's murder, the Provisional IRA claimed responsibility in a press release. The reasons cited were Cahill's alleged involvement with a Portadown unit of the Ulster Volunteer Force. The unit in question had attempted a bomb attack on a south Dublin pub which was hosting a Sinn Féin fund-raiser on 21 May 1994. The UVF operatives were halted by the doorman Martin Doherty. In the ensuing struggle Doherty, who the IRA subsequently announced was a volunteer in their Dublin Brigade, was shot dead.[9][10] The Provisionals further alleged that Cahill had been involved in selling the stolen Beit paintings to the UVF gang led by Billy Wright.[11] The UVF then fenced the paintings for money, which they used to buy guns from South Africa. This act supposedly sealed Cahill's fate, and put him at the top of an IRA hit list.[12] In a later statement, the IRA said that it was Cahill's involvement with and assistance to pro-British death squads which forced us to act."[13]

Abe, you have been completely found out as a West Brit, Martin Cahill was killed by dissident Republicans and just like today's junkie scumbags Martin Cahill died just another deadbeat bum. My cousin lives in Rathmines and witnessed the slaying it was common knowledge it was the IRA but I suppose now you're going to tell me it was one of your superhero bums lol

Your pro-Brit agenda is so obvious abe it's painful you ain't kidding no-one.



Sean, you like to flog the dead horse all the time your very easy to debate Martin Cahill IRA statements was a pack of lies full stop.

INLA killed him for attack he'd nothing to do with...

CORMAC LOONEY – 27 OCTOBER 2011 10:05 AM

MARTIN CAHILL was not involved in the Widow Scallan's shooting the attack which may have cost him his life.

New information has come to light which reveals that a Belfast wing of the UVF were the sole suspects for carrying out the 1991 pub attack in which an IRA man was shot dead.

The General was blamed for assisting the UVF, but a new book by crime reporter Paul Williams reveals that the gardai and RUC did not consider him a suspect.

Despite this, the IRA claimed Cahill co-operated with loyalists to carry out the shooting, triggering a dispute between the General and republicans which culminated in this murder three years later.

"In the wake of the Widow Scallan's incident there was intense speculation that a criminal gang from Dublin had assisted the hit team. The Provos soon pointed the finger of suspicion at their old adversary Martin Cahill," Williams writes in Badfellas.







Plotting

"Neither Cahill nor any Dublin criminals were involved in the attack. Both the RUC and the gardai established that a UVF group from Belfast was actually responsible."

And despite claims that Cahill's gang supplied the car used in the incident it has emerged that the vehicle, a Triumph Acclaim, had been bought a day before the shooting, from a car dealer in Lurgan.

Although police believed that Cahill was innocent of any involvement, Dublin criminals John Gilligan and John Traynor told the IRA he was involved in the shooting regardless, Williams writes.

"Gilligan and Traynor were two people the Provos didn't have to approach for information. Factory John and The Coach had begun plotting the murder of their former pal but if the Provos -- or the INLA-- did it for them, then so much the better."

The pub shooting kicked off a chain of events which eventually saw Cahill in a dispute with INLA figures in Dublin. The culmination of this was his murder outside his Rathmines home on August 18, 1994. Gardai believe the INLA was responsible for the attack.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/a-woman-in-the-way-of-a-drug-barons-ambitions-26420738.html

There is a theory that Martin Cahill was murdered by the Provisional IRA because he was dealing with the loyalist Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF). This version suggests that the arrest in Istanbul of three UVF men trying to sell three Beit paintings was evidence of Cahill's links to the loyalists.

When Cahill was shot dead in August 1994, the IRA issued a statement saying that he had been killed because he had been in cahoots with the loyalists. They claimed he had helped them carry out a failed bomb attack on a Sinn Fein function at the Widow Scallan's pub in Dublin earlier that year, in which an IRA doorman had been shot dead.

The UVF have always denied this and claimed they had never heard of Martin Cahill until he was shot dead. But they did say their members had bought three paintings through an intermediary, Tommy Coyle, a leading underworld "fence" based in Drogheda who was known throughout the British and Irish underworld.

The Mid-Ulster UVF had apparently made a deal with Coyle and took the paintings as payment, they say.

A few weeks later the IRA called its first ceasefire..

It was not until a few years later, however, that a more plausible version of events came to light -- and John Traynor was at the centre of it.

After the murder of Veronica Guerin, a semi-autonomous investigation team was set up in Lucan Garda Station under the direction of Assistant Commissioner Tony Hickey.

The Lucan team quickly discovered that John Traynor had been an informant for someone high up in the gardai. Given his relationship with Gilligan, Traynor was also a suspect in the murder.

As the Lucan team delved into Traynor's activities, this separate version of events surrounding Cahill's murder emerged. Traynor had negotiated a deal between Cahill and Gilligan that would effectively set up Gilligan's drug-importing empire.

Cahill had a large amount of cash that he needed to invest for his retirement -- he was suffering from worsening health due to diabetes. He agreed to put up a large sum, up to £600,000, to finance Gilligan's first large shipment of cannabis from his Lebanese contact in Amsterdam. In return, Gilligan would repay Cahill the £600,000, plus another £600,000, along with a percentage of all subsequent shipments. With Traynor present, a deal was struck. Within 18 months of his release from Portlaoise in 1993, John Gilligan was in the big time. The shipment came through; but he still had to pay about £1.2m to the ailing Martin Cahill.

The Lucan detectives discovered that at around the same time, Traynor had struck up a close relationship with the group called the Irish National Liberation Army (INLA). This was little less than a few dozen ex-paramilitaries who still traded on the name of one of the most murderous terrorist groups to have emerged in the Troubles.

Traynor had used the Dublin INLA to pass several hundred thousand pounds- worth of dud cheques.

Although small in number, the INLA did have several members who were proficient in the use of firearms. More importantly, the INLA leadership had had a dispute with Martin Cahill, who had publicly humiliated them. They wanted revenge.

Gilligan was faced with the situation where he could either pay Martin Cahill a huge portion of his profits, or not. The latter required that Cahill be killed. It is believed that, through Traynor, the INLA was recruited to make that happen.

To shift the blame, the INLA arranged for their friends in the Dublin IRA to claim responsibility. It is believed that the INLA and IRA received £30,000 each for their part, with further payments in guns and cash as part of a "protection" deal for Gilligan and his gang. Gilligan was now in business, and Traynor was the king-maker who put him there.


I never disputed the fact that he UVF were responsible abe, stop putting up straw men arguments in a lame attempt to shoot me down for pointing put the simple facts.

Martin Cahill was a lowlife scumbag who worked with the UVF, a traitor to his country and a pathetic bum who was nothing more than a jumped up petty thief and yet despite his links to Loyalist paramilitaries you still revere him which says everything about where your loyalties lie.

As for Paul Williams he is a self-serving publicist who is a well known fairy tale storyteller. From his Wikipedia profile:-

[u]'Williams has been the subject of criticism that he is a mouthpiece for the gardaí'

Sound familiar to anyone else we know around here people rolleyes

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"who uses his column to shape the public perception of the criminals he writes about and, quite possibly, to stir up tensions between rival gangs and major league villains". The Sunday Tribune said a common criticism of Williams is that he is "little more than a cheerleader for the gardaí" and noted Williams's tendency to steer away from any crime or corruption within the force.

Williams has been criticised for his tendency to give nicknames such as "The Tosser", "The Penguin", "Babyface" and "Fatpuss" to the criminals he is reporting on. Critics complain this has served to glamorise the criminals and to boost their public profile.[1]

Reminds me of somebody else around here, can't think who. But hey abe, the phone's ringing pal, I think it's another newsflash for you from your buddy. The little green leprechaun in your bowl of Lucky Charms lol


In 2002, Williams and the Sunday World were sued for libel after a story he had written in 1999 was proved to be untrue. In the article, Williams claimed a nun named Nora Wall had procured children so that they could be raped by paedophile priest Brendan Smyth. The paper issued a full apology and was forced to pay a €175,000 settlement to Ms. Wall'.


So, yet another reference to a guy who has been completely discredited, stop with the comedy abe lol

This guy sounds so familiar it's just untrue whistle


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Sean south you aint Irish, your a plastic paddy that does not have a clue

Fact is us British have pissed all over your cowardly terrorists for years

IRA stands for I Ran Away....


That old slur (yawn) rolleyes

A reference to the cowardly scumbags who instigated the troubles in the first place. The old guard of the IRA having ceased their border campaign in a bid for peace was ceased upon by cowardly Loyalist paramilitaries who knowing that the Catholic/Republican community were vulnerable burned down the houses occupied by women and children and bombed businesses in some lame attempt to taint the IRA.


'In March and April 1969, there were six bomb attacks on electricity and water infrastructure targets, causing blackouts and water shortages. At first the attacks were blamed on the Irish Republican Army (IRA). In fact, it later emerged that members of the loyalist Ulster Protestant Volunteers (UPV) and Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF) had carried out the bombings in an attempt to implicate the IRA, destabilise the Government and halt the reforms demanded by the Civil Rights movement and promised by Terence O'Neill'.[7]

These atrocities were consequently committed by the protestants in full knowledge that the official IRA were looking to seek peace and had the support of the Civil Rights movements all around the world.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUKy29ZhP5Q&list=PL4D622E8822FDFD46&index=13

This ultimately led to the formation of the Provisional IRA, a group who were less compromising than their older peers and who became the worst nightmare the cowardly Loyalists ever created, which sadly ruined the peace process as the place descended into senseless violence that would kill many lives and wipe out entire families including many of my own.

But despite the cowardly Loyalist mobs being armed and aided by the Loyalist RUC (yeah so brave rolleyes) and gthe fact that the Republicans had to fight a war on three fronts (the British army, the cowardly Loyalists and the RUC) the IRA inflicted far more casualties on Loyalist paramilitaries than the Loyalist mobs did on the IRA. So the IRA (I ran away) warblings didn't last long and were only the scribblings at a time when the Catholic community were undefended so here are the facts, you Brit monsters created a monster and the IRA blew their opposition away if you want to weasel this heartbreaking conflict down to some kind of competitive death count which is childish, puerile and idiotic but the fact is you attacked vulnerable women and children and the army that arose from the ashes of that demolition became (according to British intelligence that abe loves to quote so much) 'the fiercest terrorist group in Europe' and a much more professional and organized threat than the low level bums that made up the ranks of the pathetic UVF and UDA.

Who even with the help of the SAS and the British army could never defeat the bold IRA. The truth...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhaaQ9TathM


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http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0217/504882-packages/

IRA' claims responsibility for suspect packages sent to British army recruitment centres.

A group calling itself the IRA has claimed responsibility for sending suspect packages to British Army recruitment centres in England last week.

Scotland Yard said a group using a recognised codeword had contacted a media outlet in Northern Ireland at the weekend.

Seven suspected explosive devices were sent to army careers offices.

One of the packages bore a Republic of Ireland postmark and the British government said the small but potentially viable devices bore "the hallmarks of Northern Ireland-related terrorism".

Scotland Yard said: "We are aware of the claim of responsibility for the devices that were sent to Army recruitment centres in England last week.

"The claim was received on Saturday February 15 by a Northern Irish media outlet using a recognised codeword. The claim was allegedly made on behalf of the 'IRA'.

"The public is urged to remain vigilant and report anything suspicious to the Anti-Terrorist Hotline, 0800 789 321."

The IRA disbanded in the years after it declared an end to its armed campaign in 2005.

However, a group calling itself the New IRA formed just before the London Olympics in 2012 and was linked to letter bombs sent last autumn.

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[quote=SEAN_SOUTH]I suppose now you're going to tell me your beloved Brit media were wrong for once lol

"Within hours of Cahill's murder, the Provisional IRA claimed responsibility in a press release. The reasons cited were Cahill's alleged involvement with a Portadown unit of the Ulster Volunteer Force. The unit in question had attempted a bomb attack on a south Dublin pub which was hosting a Sinn Féin fund-raiser on 21 May 1994. The UVF operatives were halted by the doorman Martin Doherty. In the ensuing struggle Doherty, who the IRA subsequently announced was a volunteer in their Dublin Brigade, was shot dead.[9][10] The Provisionals further alleged that Cahill had been involved in selling the stolen Beit paintings to the UVF gang led by Billy Wright.[11] The UVF then fenced the paintings for money, which they used to buy guns from South Africa. This act supposedly sealed Cahill's fate, and put him at the top of an IRA hit list.[12] In a later statement, the IRA said that it was Cahill's involvement with and assistance to pro-British death squads which forced us to act."[13]

Abe, you have been completely found out as a West Brit, Martin Cahill was killed by dissident Republicans and just like today's junkie scumbags Martin Cahill died just another deadbeat bum. My cousin lives in Rathmines and witnessed the slaying it was common knowledge it was the IRA but I suppose now you're going to tell me it was one of your superhero bums lol

Your pro-Brit agenda is so obvious abe it's painful you ain't kidding no-one.



Sean, you like to flog the dead horse all the time your very easy to debate Martin Cahill IRA statements was a pack of lies full stop.

INLA killed him for attack he'd nothing to do with...

CORMAC LOONEY – 27 OCTOBER 2011 10:05 AM

MARTIN CAHILL was not involved in the Widow Scallan's shooting the attack which may have cost him his life.

New information has come to light which reveals that a Belfast wing of the UVF were the sole suspects for carrying out the 1991 pub attack in which an IRA man was shot dead.

The General was blamed for assisting the UVF, but a new book by crime reporter Paul Williams reveals that the gardai and RUC did not consider him a suspect.

Despite this, the IRA claimed Cahill co-operated with loyalists to carry out the shooting, triggering a dispute between the General and republicans which culminated in this murder three years later.

"In the wake of the Widow Scallan's incident there was intense speculation that a criminal gang from Dublin had assisted the hit team. The Provos soon pointed the finger of suspicion at their old adversary Martin Cahill," Williams writes in Badfellas.







Plotting

"Neither Cahill nor any Dublin criminals were involved in the attack. Both the RUC and the gardai established that a UVF group from Belfast was actually responsible."

And despite claims that Cahill's gang supplied the car used in the incident it has emerged that the vehicle, a Triumph Acclaim, had been bought a day before the shooting, from a car dealer in Lurgan.

Although police believed that Cahill was innocent of any involvement, Dublin criminals John Gilligan and John Traynor told the IRA he was involved in the shooting regardless, Williams writes.

"Gilligan and Traynor were two people the Provos didn't have to approach for information. Factory John and The Coach had begun plotting the murder of their former pal but if the Provos -- or the INLA-- did it for them, then so much the better."

The pub shooting kicked off a chain of events which eventually saw Cahill in a dispute with INLA figures in Dublin. The culmination of this was his murder outside his Rathmines home on August 18, 1994. Gardai believe the INLA was responsible for the attack.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/a-woman-in-the-way-of-a-drug-barons-ambitions-26420738.html

There is a theory that Martin Cahill was murdered by the Provisional IRA because he was dealing with the loyalist Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF). This version suggests that the arrest in Istanbul of three UVF men trying to sell three Beit paintings was evidence of Cahill's links to the loyalists.

When Cahill was shot dead in August 1994, the IRA issued a statement saying that he had been killed because he had been in cahoots with the loyalists. They claimed he had helped them carry out a failed bomb attack on a Sinn Fein function at the Widow Scallan's pub in Dublin earlier that year, in which an IRA doorman had been shot dead.

The UVF have always denied this and claimed they had never heard of Martin Cahill until he was shot dead. But they did say their members had bought three paintings through an intermediary, Tommy Coyle, a leading underworld "fence" based in Drogheda who was known throughout the British and Irish underworld.

The Mid-Ulster UVF had apparently made a deal with Coyle and took the paintings as payment, they say.

A few weeks later the IRA called its first ceasefire..

It was not until a few years later, however, that a more plausible version of events came to light -- and John Traynor was at the centre of it.

After the murder of Veronica Guerin, a semi-autonomous investigation team was set up in Lucan Garda Station under the direction of Assistant Commissioner Tony Hickey.

The Lucan team quickly discovered that John Traynor had been an informant for someone high up in the gardai. Given his relationship with Gilligan, Traynor was also a suspect in the murder.

As the Lucan team delved into Traynor's activities, this separate version of events surrounding Cahill's murder emerged. Traynor had negotiated a deal between Cahill and Gilligan that would effectively set up Gilligan's drug-importing empire.

Cahill had a large amount of cash that he needed to invest for his retirement -- he was suffering from worsening health due to diabetes. He agreed to put up a large sum, up to £600,000, to finance Gilligan's first large shipment of cannabis from his Lebanese contact in Amsterdam. In return, Gilligan would repay Cahill the £600,000, plus another £600,000, along with a percentage of all subsequent shipments. With Traynor present, a deal was struck. Within 18 months of his release from Portlaoise in 1993, John Gilligan was in the big time. The shipment came through; but he still had to pay about £1.2m to the ailing Martin Cahill.

The Lucan detectives discovered that at around the same time, Traynor had struck up a close relationship with the group called the Irish National Liberation Army (INLA). This was little less than a few dozen ex-paramilitaries who still traded on the name of one of the most murderous terrorist groups to have emerged in the Troubles.

Traynor had used the Dublin INLA to pass several hundred thousand pounds- worth of dud cheques.

Although small in number, the INLA did have several members who were proficient in the use of firearms. More importantly, the INLA leadership had had a dispute with Martin Cahill, who had publicly humiliated them. They wanted revenge.

Gilligan was faced with the situation where he could either pay Martin Cahill a huge portion of his profits, or not. The latter required that Cahill be killed. It is believed that, through Traynor, the INLA was recruited to make that happen.

To shift the blame, the INLA arranged for their friends in the Dublin IRA to claim responsibility. It is believed that the INLA and IRA received £30,000 each for their part, with further payments in guns and cash as part of a "protection" deal for Gilligan and his gang. Gilligan was now in business, and Traynor was the king-maker who put him there.


I never disputed the fact that he UVF were responsible abe, stop putting up straw men arguments in a lame attempt to shoot me down for pointing put the simple facts.

Martin Cahill was a lowlife scumbag who worked with the UVF, a traitor to his country and a pathetic bum who was nothing more than a jumped up petty thief and yet despite his links to Loyalist paramilitaries you still revere him which says everything about where your loyalties lie.

As for Paul Williams he is a self-serving publicist who is a well known fairy tale storyteller. From his Wikipedia profile:-

[u]'Williams has been the subject of criticism that he is a mouthpiece for the gardaí'

Sound familiar to anyone else we know around here people rolleyes

[i]
"who uses his column to shape the public perception of the criminals he writes about and, quite possibly, to stir up tensions between rival gangs and major league villains". The Sunday Tribune said a common criticism of Williams is that he is "little more than a cheerleader for the gardaí" and noted Williams's tendency to steer away from any crime or corruption within the force.

Williams has been criticised for his tendency to give nicknames such as "The Tosser", "The Penguin", "Babyface" and "Fatpuss" to the criminals he is reporting on. Critics complain this has served to glamorise the criminals and to boost their public profile.[1]

Reminds me of somebody else around here, can't think who. But hey abe, the phone's ringing pal, I think it's another newsflash for you from your buddy. The little green leprechaun in your bowl of Lucky Charms lol


In 2002, Williams and the Sunday World were sued for libel after a story he had written in 1999 was proved to be untrue. In the article, Williams claimed a nun named Nora Wall had procured children so that they could be raped by paedophile priest Brendan Smyth. The paper issued a full apology and was forced to pay a €175,000 settlement to Ms. Wall'.


So, yet another reference to a guy who has been completely discredited, stop with the comedy abe lol

This guy sounds so familiar it's just untrue whistle [/quote

Martin Cahill was a lowlife scumbag who worked with the UVF, a traitor to his country and a pathetic bum who was nothing more than a jumped up petty thief and yet despite his links to Loyalist paramilitaries you still revere him which says everything about where your loyalties lie.

The IRA did not kill Martin Cahill is what i said.

As for Paul Williams he is a self-serving publicist who is a well known fairy tale storyteller. From his Wikipedia profile:-

[u]'Williams has been the subject of criticism that he is a mouthpiece for the gardaí'

Three people have got money in cases again William's Martin Marlo Hyland got big pay one time as well.



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JOHN Gilligan claims the attempted hit on his life was planned by associates of murdered gangster Martin Cahill.

The pint-sized thug is frantically putting the word out that he had nothing to do with Cahill’s death as he’s terrified he’ll be whacked in a revenge attack.

A gunman walked into the Halfway House pub in north Dublin last week looking for Gilligan (61), but he was actually in the Hole in the Wall pub nearby.

Gardai investigated the theory that the hit attempt may have been carried out by associates of John Cunningham and Christy Kinahan. But Gilligan has told pals he believes associates of Cahill were behind it.

A source said: “He’s desperate to get the word out there that he had nothing to do with Cahill’s death.”

Notorious criminal Martin Cahill was shot dead in August 1994. The Provisional IRA claimed responsibility.

However, another theory was put forward that Gilligan had organised the killing or assisted the IRA in the murder because he owed Cahill money and didn’t want to pay.

The drug baron denies this and also denies he owed Cahill money.

The source said: “Gilligan claims that he didn’t owe Cahill any money and that Cahill ‘hadn’t a pot to piss in’. He described Cahill as an ‘amateur hour’ criminal.”

It isn’t clear if there is any credibility to Gilligan’s theory that associates of Cahill were behind the hit attempt or if he is deliberately trying to cause confusion.

Gardai are also investigating whether associates of John ‘the Colonel’ Cunningham ordered the hit attempt on Gilligan.

Investigators believe Gilligan had been demanding money from Cunningham, which he claims he has been owed since the 1990s.

Cunningham is closely linked to Spanish-based mobster Christy Kinahan, who is suspected of being the leader of a major international crime syndicate.

While this theory is a major line of inquiry for gardai, Gilligan denies Cunningham was behind the plot.

“He said he doesn’t have any problem with Cunningham and claims he doesn’t know why people are linking him to the murder plot,” our source said

He added that there was one man in particular who blames him for Cahill’s death and he is behind the assassination attempt.

The main theory around the Cahill hit was that he was killed by the IRA because he assisted the UVF, who carried out a 1991 attack in which an IRA man was shot dead at the Widow Scanlon pub in Dublin. Cahill was shot just days before

the IRA ceasefire in 1994, in what was describe as “unfinished business.”

Security sources do not believe Cahill was involved in assisting the UVF in the attack.

However, there have been claims in the underworld that Gilligan told the IRA that Cahill was involved in the attack.

Gilligan said: “Martin Cahill was never an enemy of mine. He had fantastic bottle. He had good principles up to a point, but he had no money... I gave him some money. This thing about Cahill giving me 800 grand is nonsense.

“They are trying to throw mud at me and if enough is thrown, some of it is surely going to stick, right? There is nobody who’d give you that type of money.

What criminal would give another criminal that type of money? Cahill never even seen 800 grand in his life, or anything near it.”

Gilligan has now become more security conscious and a source said: “Gilligan has been trying to put on a brave face, but he’s obviously worried now. He’s told everybody that he’s not going to leave Ireland and that he’s not scared of anyone, but the longer he stays here the more chance he’ll be killed.”

Gardai officially warned Gilligan of an active threat on his life last week and issued him with security advice.

Since his release from prison he has been demanding money he claims he is owed from people dating back to the 1990s, as first revealed by the Sunday World.

“He’s stepping on a lot of toes and has the mistaken impression he’s still the main man, but a lot has changed since the 1990s and he is on thin ice at the moment,” said our source.

And gardai fear the gang who tried to have him whacked will attempt to get him again.

“There’s definitely unfinished business here. It’s unlikely they’re going to give up after one failed attempt,” added our source.

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Sean South, UVF touts was all over this pub attack Martin Cahill
had jackshit to do with it.

RUC 'collusion' in replacing bomb gel with putty saved the lives of IRA men.

JIM CUSACK – 04 FEBRUARY 2007

IN OCTOBER, 1993, a package with a note on the back saying it was a book was posted from Belfast to the then Tanaiste, Dick Spring. It was a bomb, a fairly well constructed one that would have killed anyone who tried to open the package. It didn't reach the Tanaiste. It was intercepted at the Central Sorting office in Belfast and made safe.

On the evening of Saturday, May 21, the following year, over 50 members of Sinn Fein - along with members of the Dublin IRA - were enjoying a night of drinking and music in the upstairs function room of the Widow Scallan's pub in Pearse Street.

Downstairs, the public bar was packed, with dozens of local men watching soccer on the television. Around mid-evening, two men appeared at the side-stairs door to the function room. They shot dead the doorman, IRA member Martin Doherty, and planted a hold-all inside the hallway.

The location of the hold-all was significant. The men had been told exactly where to place it. It was a bomb - or so the two Ulster Volunteer Force members who planted it there thought it was. It should have contained around 20lbs of the commercial explosive, Powergel.

If the bomb had gone off, the following would have happened: the horizontal pressure of the explosion would have blown out the side wall of the pub. That wall supported the beams that held up the roof and first floor of the 19th century building. The roof and first floor - along with 50-odd republicans in the function room there - would have fallen downwards on to even more local people in the public bar.

The explosion would also have caused a fire-ball which would have burned to death many people in its direct path and then, almost certainly set fire to the building, killing everybody trapped inside.

A few months later, as the Belfast Enterprise train pulled into Connolly Station on the afternoon of September 12, an explosion occured in a packed carriage. No one was killed or injured but the inside of the carriage was covered in a strange grey, putty-like substance. It was putty, two kilos of it. Who would make a bomb of putty?

Unwittingly it was the UVF. But, in the background, British Army ordnance officers were almost certainly involved. It was they who had been brought a large cache of real Powergel explosive by RUC Special Branch officers and asked to take out the explosive and replace it with something that looked and even smelled like explosive but was harmless.

They then, probably, took the 'explosive' back to their agent inside the UVF agent who had given it to them in the first place and he, in turn, carefully placed it back in the secret hide in north Belfast from where he had stolen it.

The reason behind the RUC and British Army's actions were this: they had left the UVF with something they thought was explosive but was harmless, so they couldn't kill people.

In doing so, they saved lives, lots and lots of them - dozens of republicans and locals in the Widow Scallan's, maybe another dozen passengers on the train, maybe even the Tanaiste.

The Branch men's agent was probably Mark Haddock, the man referred to as 'Informant One' in Nuala O'Loan's "damning" report on the RUC. The report, met with a clamour of condemnation and indignation, has irrevocably sullied the reputation of the RUC in many people's eyes.

The report was accurate in portraying Haddock and his associates in the Mount Vernon unit of the UVF as a bunch of murderers who killed not only Catholics but local Protestants who somehow fell foul of them. The Ombudsman's investigation was a result of a campaign by Raymond McCord snr, whose son, Raymond, was murdered by the UVF men in 1997.

Taken in isolation, the failure to prosecute Haddock and others for this and maybe six other murders seems an appalling indictment, but only if taken out of the context of the environment in which the RUC was operating in the early Nineties.

Northern Ireland was, at the time, on the brink of civil war. The IRA had stepped up its campaign of terrorism to

'In the background, British Army ordnance officers were almost certainly involved'

levels not seen since the Seventies. It was setting off huge bombs aimed at the commercial heart of London. It massacred eight Protestant workmen on their way to work at a construction company in Teebane, Co Tyrone. In October, 1993 - the same month the parcel bomb was sent to Dick Spring - an IRA bomb exploded in Frizzell's fish shop on the Shankill Road, killing nine people. In March 1993, an IRA bomb exploded in a busy shopping street in Warrington, England, killing two children, Tim Parry, 12, and three-year-old Jonathan Ball.

Simultaneously, the IRA leadership was in talks with the Dublin Government and the SDLP in the lead-up towhat would become known as the 'peace process' and the first IRA ceasefire in 1994. The impression that a 'pan-nationalist front' of the IRA, SDLP and Irish Government was negotiating terms for some form of a settlement with the British and American governments was an alarming one for unionists and loyalist paramilitaries.

After more than a decade in which it had stopped bombings, the UVF had returned to carrying out explosions. It carried out attacks on Sinn Fein offices, including one in Monaghan in which, strangely enough, the bomb failed to explode.

The aftermath of the IRA's bombing of Frizzell's fish shop was one of the worst in the entire Troubles with over 30 people murdered in a month, including eight people shot dead by loyalists in the Rising Sun Bar in Greysteel, Co Derry. The UVF planned to strike at the heart of the Republic's tourist industry by either blowing up or shooting up a coach load of American tourists.

Remarkably, almost none of this context was included in any of the commentary arising from the O'Loan report in the media here. The RUC Special Branch's undoubted protection of their valuable 'asset' - as such agents and informants are known - was viewed purely in a sense of there being proof-positive of 'collusion' between British state forces and loyalists. In fact, there was the opposite of collusion to commit murder against republicans. The Special Branch's actions in removing the UVF's explosive and replacing it with harmless putty, ironically, saved IRA and Sinn Fein lives as they were the main target of the loyalists.

And, at the same time, the Special Branch was running equally murderous 'assets' in the IRA who were also furnishing them with information and carrying out actions which were also saving dozens, if not hundreds of lives. It has since emerged that the head of the IRA's internal security unit, codenamed 'Stakeknife', was one of their agents, a man who oversaw the 'executions' of dozens of suspected or alleged IRA informers.

While retired RUC officers say they can handle Nuala O'Loan's report - accepting some of its criticisms as valid -they say that they are appalled that the report has, effectively, tarnished the reputation of an entire police force. Some 302 serving police officers were killed and 20 retired members were also murdered during the Troubles. Many were murdered by the IRA in front of their families.

The other aspect of the O'Loan report fallout is that it has played into Sinn Fein's prolonged campaign to reduce the role and function of the RUC to that of a collusionist conspiracy. For years it has been mounting various campaigns citing 'collusion' - from the murder of solicitor Pat Finucane back to the 1974 Dublin and Monaghan bombings. It is part of Sinn Fein's strenuous efforts to rewrite the history of the Troubles in which its military wing played the most murderous role.






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Sean South, UVF touts was all over this pub attack Martin Cahill
had jackshit to do with it.

RUC 'collusion' in replacing bomb gel with putty saved the lives of IRA men.

JIM CUSACK – 04 FEBRUARY 2007

IN OCTOBER, 1993, a package with a note on the back saying it was a book was posted from Belfast to the then Tanaiste, Dick Spring. It was a bomb, a fairly well constructed one that would have killed anyone who tried to open the package. It didn't reach the Tanaiste. It was intercepted at the Central Sorting office in Belfast and made safe.

On the evening of Saturday, May 21, the following year, over 50 members of Sinn Fein - along with members of the Dublin IRA - were enjoying a night of drinking and music in the upstairs function room of the Widow Scallan's pub in Pearse Street.

Downstairs, the public bar was packed, with dozens of local men watching soccer on the television. Around mid-evening, two men appeared at the side-stairs door to the function room. They shot dead the doorman, IRA member Martin Doherty, and planted a hold-all inside the hallway.

The location of the hold-all was significant. The men had been told exactly where to place it. It was a bomb - or so the two Ulster Volunteer Force members who planted it there thought it was. It should have contained around 20lbs of the commercial explosive, Powergel.

If the bomb had gone off, the following would have happened: the horizontal pressure of the explosion would have blown out the side wall of the pub. That wall supported the beams that held up the roof and first floor of the 19th century building. The roof and first floor - along with 50-odd republicans in the function room there - would have fallen downwards on to even more local people in the public bar.

The explosion would also have caused a fire-ball which would have burned to death many people in its direct path and then, almost certainly set fire to the building, killing everybody trapped inside.

A few months later, as the Belfast Enterprise train pulled into Connolly Station on the afternoon of September 12, an explosion occured in a packed carriage. No one was killed or injured but the inside of the carriage was covered in a strange grey, putty-like substance. It was putty, two kilos of it. Who would make a bomb of putty?

Unwittingly it was the UVF. But, in the background, British Army ordnance officers were almost certainly involved. It was they who had been brought a large cache of real Powergel explosive by RUC Special Branch officers and asked to take out the explosive and replace it with something that looked and even smelled like explosive but was harmless.

They then, probably, took the 'explosive' back to their agent inside the UVF agent who had given it to them in the first place and he, in turn, carefully placed it back in the secret hide in north Belfast from where he had stolen it.

The reason behind the RUC and British Army's actions were this: they had left the UVF with something they thought was explosive but was harmless, so they couldn't kill people.

In doing so, they saved lives, lots and lots of them - dozens of republicans and locals in the Widow Scallan's, maybe another dozen passengers on the train, maybe even the Tanaiste.

The Branch men's agent was probably Mark Haddock, the man referred to as 'Informant One' in Nuala O'Loan's "damning" report on the RUC. The report, met with a clamour of condemnation and indignation, has irrevocably sullied the reputation of the RUC in many people's eyes.

The report was accurate in portraying Haddock and his associates in the Mount Vernon unit of the UVF as a bunch of murderers who killed not only Catholics but local Protestants who somehow fell foul of them. The Ombudsman's investigation was a result of a campaign by Raymond McCord snr, whose son, Raymond, was murdered by the UVF men in 1997.

Taken in isolation, the failure to prosecute Haddock and others for this and maybe six other murders seems an appalling indictment, but only if taken out of the context of the environment in which the RUC was operating in the early Nineties.

Northern Ireland was, at the time, on the brink of civil war. The IRA had stepped up its campaign of terrorism to

'In the background, British Army ordnance officers were almost certainly involved'

levels not seen since the Seventies. It was setting off huge bombs aimed at the commercial heart of London. It massacred eight Protestant workmen on their way to work at a construction company in Teebane, Co Tyrone. In October, 1993 - the same month the parcel bomb was sent to Dick Spring - an IRA bomb exploded in Frizzell's fish shop on the Shankill Road, killing nine people. In March 1993, an IRA bomb exploded in a busy shopping street in Warrington, England, killing two children, Tim Parry, 12, and three-year-old Jonathan Ball.

Simultaneously, the IRA leadership was in talks with the Dublin Government and the SDLP in the lead-up towhat would become known as the 'peace process' and the first IRA ceasefire in 1994. The impression that a 'pan-nationalist front' of the IRA, SDLP and Irish Government was negotiating terms for some form of a settlement with the British and American governments was an alarming one for unionists and loyalist paramilitaries.

After more than a decade in which it had stopped bombings, the UVF had returned to carrying out explosions. It carried out attacks on Sinn Fein offices, including one in Monaghan in which, strangely enough, the bomb failed to explode.

The aftermath of the IRA's bombing of Frizzell's fish shop was one of the worst in the entire Troubles with over 30 people murdered in a month, including eight people shot dead by loyalists in the Rising Sun Bar in Greysteel, Co Derry. The UVF planned to strike at the heart of the Republic's tourist industry by either blowing up or shooting up a coach load of American tourists.

Remarkably, almost none of this context was included in any of the commentary arising from the O'Loan report in the media here. The RUC Special Branch's undoubted protection of their valuable 'asset' - as such agents and informants are known - was viewed purely in a sense of there being proof-positive of 'collusion' between British state forces and loyalists. In fact, there was the opposite of collusion to commit murder against republicans. The Special Branch's actions in removing the UVF's explosive and replacing it with harmless putty, ironically, saved IRA and Sinn Fein lives as they were the main target of the loyalists.

And, at the same time, the Special Branch was running equally murderous 'assets' in the IRA who were also furnishing them with information and carrying out actions which were also saving dozens, if not hundreds of lives. It has since emerged that the head of the IRA's internal security unit, codenamed 'Stakeknife', was one of their agents, a man who oversaw the 'executions' of dozens of suspected or alleged IRA informers.

While retired RUC officers say they can handle Nuala O'Loan's report - accepting some of its criticisms as valid -they say that they are appalled that the report has, effectively, tarnished the reputation of an entire police force. Some 302 serving police officers were killed and 20 retired members were also murdered during the Troubles. Many were murdered by the IRA in front of their families.

The other aspect of the O'Loan report fallout is that it has played into Sinn Fein's prolonged campaign to reduce the role and function of the RUC to that of a collusionist conspiracy. For years it has been mounting various campaigns citing 'collusion' - from the murder of solicitor Pat Finucane back to the 1974 Dublin and Monaghan bombings. It is part of Sinn Fein's strenuous efforts to rewrite the history of the Troubles in which its military wing played the most murderous role.



Give it up abe, you have been completely discredited and exposed lol

The British army even had a 'Military Reaction Force' which acted as a terrorist cell inside Northern Ireland, colluding with the UVF in a pub bombing that took the lives of fifteen innocent civilians.

'On 4 December 1971, loyalists belonging to the Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF) detonated a time bomb at the door of McGurk's public house in Belfast. The pub was frequented by members of the Irish Catholic and Irish nationalist community.[12] The explosion caused the building to collapse, killing fifteen Catholic civilians and wounding seventeen more. It was the deadliest attack in Belfast during the Troubles.[13] The book Killing For Britain (2009), written by former UVF member 'John Black', claims that the MRF organized the bombing and helped the bombers get in and out of the area'.

abe has sunk to a new low. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZrrBjuEv6w


Praising the Brit scum that have raped, pillaged and killed Irish men and women for centuries. You haven't criticised the Brits once in any of your pieces abe you have been found out, game over, your agenda has been exposed, sorry abe, time to give it up shhh

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Plastic paddy, what would you do without Google helping you?

You have no real idea about Loyal Ulster, and what really happened so go back to pretending to be Irish and impressing your friends with your knowledge....


Most people from the republic of Ireland hate the cowardly provos and the dissidents, but of course you can't understand that

Nobody should be killed because of their religion, but you are happy to cheer on scum from afar, I am sure most decent people on this forum think you are an idiot!

Also funny how many Irish are happy to live in Britain and many are also happy to serve in our armed forces and be part of the British community

Despite your warped view and limited understanding of reality, I am sure most 'real Irish' people are happy with their relationship with the British people...

Only a small minority of scum want to keep hate and murder, and their day will never come!

I won't bore the rest of the forum anymore with this shite, I somehow doubt you will remove the chip from your shoulder and give everyone peace though..

Toodlepip


British is best....
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http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analys...n-26284218.html

Sean South, UVF touts was all over this pub attack Martin Cahill
had jackshit to do with it.

RUC 'collusion' in replacing bomb gel with putty saved the lives of IRA men.

JIM CUSACK – 04 FEBRUARY 2007

IN OCTOBER, 1993, a package with a note on the back saying it was a book was posted from Belfast to the then Tanaiste, Dick Spring. It was a bomb, a fairly well constructed one that would have killed anyone who tried to open the package. It didn't reach the Tanaiste. It was intercepted at the Central Sorting office in Belfast and made safe.

On the evening of Saturday, May 21, the following year, over 50 members of Sinn Fein - along with members of the Dublin IRA - were enjoying a night of drinking and music in the upstairs function room of the Widow Scallan's pub in Pearse Street.

Downstairs, the public bar was packed, with dozens of local men watching soccer on the television. Around mid-evening, two men appeared at the side-stairs door to the function room. They shot dead the doorman, IRA member Martin Doherty, and planted a hold-all inside the hallway.

The location of the hold-all was significant. The men had been told exactly where to place it. It was a bomb - or so the two Ulster Volunteer Force members who planted it there thought it was. It should have contained around 20lbs of the commercial explosive, Powergel.

If the bomb had gone off, the following would have happened: the horizontal pressure of the explosion would have blown out the side wall of the pub. That wall supported the beams that held up the roof and first floor of the 19th century building. The roof and first floor - along with 50-odd republicans in the function room there - would have fallen downwards on to even more local people in the public bar.

The explosion would also have caused a fire-ball which would have burned to death many people in its direct path and then, almost certainly set fire to the building, killing everybody trapped inside.

A few months later, as the Belfast Enterprise train pulled into Connolly Station on the afternoon of September 12, an explosion occured in a packed carriage. No one was killed or injured but the inside of the carriage was covered in a strange grey, putty-like substance. It was putty, two kilos of it. Who would make a bomb of putty?

Unwittingly it was the UVF. But, in the background, British Army ordnance officers were almost certainly involved. It was they who had been brought a large cache of real Powergel explosive by RUC Special Branch officers and asked to take out the explosive and replace it with something that looked and even smelled like explosive but was harmless.

They then, probably, took the 'explosive' back to their agent inside the UVF agent who had given it to them in the first place and he, in turn, carefully placed it back in the secret hide in north Belfast from where he had stolen it.

The reason behind the RUC and British Army's actions were this: they had left the UVF with something they thought was explosive but was harmless, so they couldn't kill people.

In doing so, they saved lives, lots and lots of them - dozens of republicans and locals in the Widow Scallan's, maybe another dozen passengers on the train, maybe even the Tanaiste.

The Branch men's agent was probably Mark Haddock, the man referred to as 'Informant One' in Nuala O'Loan's "damning" report on the RUC. The report, met with a clamour of condemnation and indignation, has irrevocably sullied the reputation of the RUC in many people's eyes.

The report was accurate in portraying Haddock and his associates in the Mount Vernon unit of the UVF as a bunch of murderers who killed not only Catholics but local Protestants who somehow fell foul of them. The Ombudsman's investigation was a result of a campaign by Raymond McCord snr, whose son, Raymond, was murdered by the UVF men in 1997.

Taken in isolation, the failure to prosecute Haddock and others for this and maybe six other murders seems an appalling indictment, but only if taken out of the context of the environment in which the RUC was operating in the early Nineties.

Northern Ireland was, at the time, on the brink of civil war. The IRA had stepped up its campaign of terrorism to

'In the background, British Army ordnance officers were almost certainly involved'

levels not seen since the Seventies. It was setting off huge bombs aimed at the commercial heart of London. It massacred eight Protestant workmen on their way to work at a construction company in Teebane, Co Tyrone. In October, 1993 - the same month the parcel bomb was sent to Dick Spring - an IRA bomb exploded in Frizzell's fish shop on the Shankill Road, killing nine people. In March 1993, an IRA bomb exploded in a busy shopping street in Warrington, England, killing two children, Tim Parry, 12, and three-year-old Jonathan Ball.

Simultaneously, the IRA leadership was in talks with the Dublin Government and the SDLP in the lead-up towhat would become known as the 'peace process' and the first IRA ceasefire in 1994. The impression that a 'pan-nationalist front' of the IRA, SDLP and Irish Government was negotiating terms for some form of a settlement with the British and American governments was an alarming one for unionists and loyalist paramilitaries.

After more than a decade in which it had stopped bombings, the UVF had returned to carrying out explosions. It carried out attacks on Sinn Fein offices, including one in Monaghan in which, strangely enough, the bomb failed to explode.

The aftermath of the IRA's bombing of Frizzell's fish shop was one of the worst in the entire Troubles with over 30 people murdered in a month, including eight people shot dead by loyalists in the Rising Sun Bar in Greysteel, Co Derry. The UVF planned to strike at the heart of the Republic's tourist industry by either blowing up or shooting up a coach load of American tourists.

Remarkably, almost none of this context was included in any of the commentary arising from the O'Loan report in the media here. The RUC Special Branch's undoubted protection of their valuable 'asset' - as such agents and informants are known - was viewed purely in a sense of there being proof-positive of 'collusion' between British state forces and loyalists. In fact, there was the opposite of collusion to commit murder against republicans. The Special Branch's actions in removing the UVF's explosive and replacing it with harmless putty, ironically, saved IRA and Sinn Fein lives as they were the main target of the loyalists.

And, at the same time, the Special Branch was running equally murderous 'assets' in the IRA who were also furnishing them with information and carrying out actions which were also saving dozens, if not hundreds of lives. It has since emerged that the head of the IRA's internal security unit, codenamed 'Stakeknife', was one of their agents, a man who oversaw the 'executions' of dozens of suspected or alleged IRA informers.

While retired RUC officers say they can handle Nuala O'Loan's report - accepting some of its criticisms as valid -they say that they are appalled that the report has, effectively, tarnished the reputation of an entire police force. Some 302 serving police officers were killed and 20 retired members were also murdered during the Troubles. Many were murdered by the IRA in front of their families.

The other aspect of the O'Loan report fallout is that it has played into Sinn Fein's prolonged campaign to reduce the role and function of the RUC to that of a collusionist conspiracy. For years it has been mounting various campaigns citing 'collusion' - from the murder of solicitor Pat Finucane back to the 1974 Dublin and Monaghan bombings. It is part of Sinn Fein's strenuous efforts to rewrite the history of the Troubles in which its military wing played the most murderous role.



Give it up abe, you have been completely discredited and exposed lol

The British army even had a 'Military Reaction Force' which acted as a terrorist cell inside Northern Ireland, colluding with the UVF in a pub bombing that took the lives of fifteen innocent civilians.

'On 4 December 1971, loyalists belonging to the Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF) detonated a time bomb at the door of McGurk's public house in Belfast. The pub was frequented by members of the Irish Catholic and Irish nationalist community.[12] The explosion caused the building to collapse, killing fifteen Catholic civilians and wounding seventeen more. It was the deadliest attack in Belfast during the Troubles.[13] The book Killing For Britain (2009), written by former UVF member 'John Black', claims that the MRF organized the bombing and helped the bombers get in and out of the area'.

abe has sunk to a new low. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZrrBjuEv6w


Praising the Brit scum that have raped, pillaged and killed Irish men and women for centuries. You haven't criticised the Brits once in any of your pieces abe you have been found out, game over, your agenda has been exposed, sorry abe, time to give it up shhh


You haven't criticised the Brits once in any of your pieces abe you have been found out ?

Sean South you are a nice guy sometimes and i don't wish to bring myself down to you debate debate levels the thread is about United Criminal Alliance-U.C.A. Ireland.

Feel free to start a thread on the IRA if you wish to do so i will debate with you on that, i think your position has become untenable on this thread, no matter how many funny faces you put in your posts the fact remains you do not know what your on about. you like the gerry adams martin mcguinness leadership and on the other hand the IRA now are doing a good job the fact is the two Republican sides do not like each other and only someone like yourself would like to make it look like they are all good mates because you don't know what your on about.

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Originally Posted By: British
Sean south you aint Irish, your a plastic paddy that does not have a clue

Fact is us British have pissed all over your cowardly terrorists for years

IRA stands for I Ran Away....


IRA stand for "I Ran Away"?

British, in case you haven't noticed, the Irish have been skull dragging you and your country around, taking back piece by piece of its native land. Was it less than a hundred years ago you had all of Ireland? Now your reduced to a small portion of Northern Ireland?

Your country has been on a steady 250 year decline since we kicked you out of America, and the embarrassments have only gotten worse.

First the Revolutionary War, then the War of 1812, then the bailouts of WWI and WWII.

What's more, the majority of Americans sympathize with the Irish because you treated them the same as the colonies with your imperialistic tactics. But let me tell you, that mighty British navy that your country boasted of a few centuries back has been reduced to rubble. The majority of your outposts have declared freedom and broken away from "the crown". All you have left is that little island called England. Defeat is a painful pill to swallow isn't it?

With God's will, the Irish, my distant family members across the pond will claim what your ancestors unrightfully stole from them.


"What are you cacklin' hens cluckin' about?!?!"

"Is that him?!? With the sombrero on?!?"


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Blimey,here comes another clueless numbskull lol


If you feel so strongly I hope you are giving the American soil back to the native Indians!


British is best....
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We won the wars against the Native Americans and they have been compensated. We weren't ever kicked out by a liberating force as has happened to the mighty England on numerous occasions.

Is what I'm saying not true? did you not at one point have a vast empire that has been reduced to only England? And maybe the Falkland Islands?


"What are you cacklin' hens cluckin' about?!?!"

"Is that him?!? With the sombrero on?!?"


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Originally Posted By: British
Plastic paddy, what would you do without Google helping you?

You have no real idea about Loyal Ulster, and what really happened so go back to pretending to be Irish and impressing your friends with your knowledge....


Most people from the republic of Ireland hate the cowardly provos and the dissidents, but of course you can't understand that

Nobody should be killed because of their religion, but you are happy to cheer on scum from afar, I am sure most decent people on this forum think you are an idiot!

Also funny how many Irish are happy to live in Britain and many are also happy to serve in our armed forces and be part of the British community

Despite your warped view and limited understanding of reality, I am sure most 'real Irish' people are happy with their relationship with the British people...

Only a small minority of scum want to keep hate and murder, and their day will never come!

I won't bore the rest of the forum anymore with this shite, I somehow doubt you will remove the chip from your shoulder and give everyone peace though..

Toodlepip


Okay Pip, pip and cheerio Toodledoo/Toodlepip or whatever the fuck (British slang is so lame) you call yourself but plain facts are you have bought absolutely zero of substance to this debate.

A minute ago you were braying about how tough your Loyalist paramilitary heroes were and yet when I explained to you the realities and truth of where the 'IRA ran away' taunts originated from you threw a tantrum like a little squealing Royal bitch cry Don't dish it out if you can't handle the truth, simple.

You either know full well those taunts originate from a time when Loyalist bullies attacked unprotected families as the IRA sought peace and chose to brag about it or are now backtracking in full knowledge of how cowardly you were and how guilty they were in using the RUC as a shield to torment, murder and torch Catholics from their homes which created a war that the Loyalists came to regret because they weren't as brave or as tough as the IRA and the IRA kicked their asses even though they had the RUC, British army and British terrorist special forces to hide behind because as an army they simply couldn't compete. The leader of the UDA was recruited because he threw a beating to an 80 year old man. Says it all rolleyes about the Loyalist scumbags.

Bigots and scum the lot of them. Like most protestants.

If the truth hurts don't hurl insults you know fuck all about Pip, simple.

You were the one that came on here to spit your prejudices but the facts are your most famous pop stars the Beatles were in favor of a united Ireland and the most breathtaking ignorance you have shown is that you believe this conflict has anything to do with religion.

Only to the protestant hate-mongers and the Brit media who tried to make it so cos they have absolutely nothing else to fall back on not only did they partition a land they have illegally occupied but they tried to fabricate an IRA campaign at a time when the Irish were seeking peace in order to destroy equality for Catholics which was the catalyst which ignites the troubles in the first place.

Protestants live free and in peace in Ireland but even Catholic children are attacked walking to school in protestant areas of Belfast.

Because you started this war, you are illegally occupying Irish land and are so paranoid about the fact that Catholics will soon be the majority all you can do is wave Union flags and live on your bigotry because bigotry is all you have.

You have some balls trying to depict yourself as some kind of voice of peace and reason. Bit late in the day for that rolleyes. Look at your previous posts buddy, nothing but bigotry and slurs.

Typical Brit, truth hurts, and because you don't know your own history you try and backtrack and portray yourself as some kind of beacon of peace and harmony when you've proved yourself to be nothing but a troll lacking even the most simple of facts.

Toodlepip now...


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Originally Posted By: abc123
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Originally Posted By: abc123
http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analys...n-26284218.html

Sean South, UVF touts was all over this pub attack Martin Cahill
had jackshit to do with it.

RUC 'collusion' in replacing bomb gel with putty saved the lives of IRA men.

JIM CUSACK – 04 FEBRUARY 2007

IN OCTOBER, 1993, a package with a note on the back saying it was a book was posted from Belfast to the then Tanaiste, Dick Spring. It was a bomb, a fairly well constructed one that would have killed anyone who tried to open the package. It didn't reach the Tanaiste. It was intercepted at the Central Sorting office in Belfast and made safe.

On the evening of Saturday, May 21, the following year, over 50 members of Sinn Fein - along with members of the Dublin IRA - were enjoying a night of drinking and music in the upstairs function room of the Widow Scallan's pub in Pearse Street.

Downstairs, the public bar was packed, with dozens of local men watching soccer on the television. Around mid-evening, two men appeared at the side-stairs door to the function room. They shot dead the doorman, IRA member Martin Doherty, and planted a hold-all inside the hallway.

The location of the hold-all was significant. The men had been told exactly where to place it. It was a bomb - or so the two Ulster Volunteer Force members who planted it there thought it was. It should have contained around 20lbs of the commercial explosive, Powergel.

If the bomb had gone off, the following would have happened: the horizontal pressure of the explosion would have blown out the side wall of the pub. That wall supported the beams that held up the roof and first floor of the 19th century building. The roof and first floor - along with 50-odd republicans in the function room there - would have fallen downwards on to even more local people in the public bar.

The explosion would also have caused a fire-ball which would have burned to death many people in its direct path and then, almost certainly set fire to the building, killing everybody trapped inside.

A few months later, as the Belfast Enterprise train pulled into Connolly Station on the afternoon of September 12, an explosion occured in a packed carriage. No one was killed or injured but the inside of the carriage was covered in a strange grey, putty-like substance. It was putty, two kilos of it. Who would make a bomb of putty?

Unwittingly it was the UVF. But, in the background, British Army ordnance officers were almost certainly involved. It was they who had been brought a large cache of real Powergel explosive by RUC Special Branch officers and asked to take out the explosive and replace it with something that looked and even smelled like explosive but was harmless.

They then, probably, took the 'explosive' back to their agent inside the UVF agent who had given it to them in the first place and he, in turn, carefully placed it back in the secret hide in north Belfast from where he had stolen it.

The reason behind the RUC and British Army's actions were this: they had left the UVF with something they thought was explosive but was harmless, so they couldn't kill people.

In doing so, they saved lives, lots and lots of them - dozens of republicans and locals in the Widow Scallan's, maybe another dozen passengers on the train, maybe even the Tanaiste.

The Branch men's agent was probably Mark Haddock, the man referred to as 'Informant One' in Nuala O'Loan's "damning" report on the RUC. The report, met with a clamour of condemnation and indignation, has irrevocably sullied the reputation of the RUC in many people's eyes.

The report was accurate in portraying Haddock and his associates in the Mount Vernon unit of the UVF as a bunch of murderers who killed not only Catholics but local Protestants who somehow fell foul of them. The Ombudsman's investigation was a result of a campaign by Raymond McCord snr, whose son, Raymond, was murdered by the UVF men in 1997.

Taken in isolation, the failure to prosecute Haddock and others for this and maybe six other murders seems an appalling indictment, but only if taken out of the context of the environment in which the RUC was operating in the early Nineties.

Northern Ireland was, at the time, on the brink of civil war. The IRA had stepped up its campaign of terrorism to

'In the background, British Army ordnance officers were almost certainly involved'

levels not seen since the Seventies. It was setting off huge bombs aimed at the commercial heart of London. It massacred eight Protestant workmen on their way to work at a construction company in Teebane, Co Tyrone. In October, 1993 - the same month the parcel bomb was sent to Dick Spring - an IRA bomb exploded in Frizzell's fish shop on the Shankill Road, killing nine people. In March 1993, an IRA bomb exploded in a busy shopping street in Warrington, England, killing two children, Tim Parry, 12, and three-year-old Jonathan Ball.

Simultaneously, the IRA leadership was in talks with the Dublin Government and the SDLP in the lead-up towhat would become known as the 'peace process' and the first IRA ceasefire in 1994. The impression that a 'pan-nationalist front' of the IRA, SDLP and Irish Government was negotiating terms for some form of a settlement with the British and American governments was an alarming one for unionists and loyalist paramilitaries.

After more than a decade in which it had stopped bombings, the UVF had returned to carrying out explosions. It carried out attacks on Sinn Fein offices, including one in Monaghan in which, strangely enough, the bomb failed to explode.

The aftermath of the IRA's bombing of Frizzell's fish shop was one of the worst in the entire Troubles with over 30 people murdered in a month, including eight people shot dead by loyalists in the Rising Sun Bar in Greysteel, Co Derry. The UVF planned to strike at the heart of the Republic's tourist industry by either blowing up or shooting up a coach load of American tourists.

Remarkably, almost none of this context was included in any of the commentary arising from the O'Loan report in the media here. The RUC Special Branch's undoubted protection of their valuable 'asset' - as such agents and informants are known - was viewed purely in a sense of there being proof-positive of 'collusion' between British state forces and loyalists. In fact, there was the opposite of collusion to commit murder against republicans. The Special Branch's actions in removing the UVF's explosive and replacing it with harmless putty, ironically, saved IRA and Sinn Fein lives as they were the main target of the loyalists.

And, at the same time, the Special Branch was running equally murderous 'assets' in the IRA who were also furnishing them with information and carrying out actions which were also saving dozens, if not hundreds of lives. It has since emerged that the head of the IRA's internal security unit, codenamed 'Stakeknife', was one of their agents, a man who oversaw the 'executions' of dozens of suspected or alleged IRA informers.

While retired RUC officers say they can handle Nuala O'Loan's report - accepting some of its criticisms as valid -they say that they are appalled that the report has, effectively, tarnished the reputation of an entire police force. Some 302 serving police officers were killed and 20 retired members were also murdered during the Troubles. Many were murdered by the IRA in front of their families.

The other aspect of the O'Loan report fallout is that it has played into Sinn Fein's prolonged campaign to reduce the role and function of the RUC to that of a collusionist conspiracy. For years it has been mounting various campaigns citing 'collusion' - from the murder of solicitor Pat Finucane back to the 1974 Dublin and Monaghan bombings. It is part of Sinn Fein's strenuous efforts to rewrite the history of the Troubles in which its military wing played the most murderous role.



Give it up abe, you have been completely discredited and exposed lol

The British army even had a 'Military Reaction Force' which acted as a terrorist cell inside Northern Ireland, colluding with the UVF in a pub bombing that took the lives of fifteen innocent civilians.

'On 4 December 1971, loyalists belonging to the Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF) detonated a time bomb at the door of McGurk's public house in Belfast. The pub was frequented by members of the Irish Catholic and Irish nationalist community.[12] The explosion caused the building to collapse, killing fifteen Catholic civilians and wounding seventeen more. It was the deadliest attack in Belfast during the Troubles.[13] The book Killing For Britain (2009), written by former UVF member 'John Black', claims that the MRF organized the bombing and helped the bombers get in and out of the area'.

abe has sunk to a new low. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZrrBjuEv6w


Praising the Brit scum that have raped, pillaged and killed Irish men and women for centuries. You haven't criticised the Brits once in any of your pieces abe you have been found out, game over, your agenda has been exposed, sorry abe, time to give it up shhh


You haven't criticised the Brits once in any of your pieces abe you have been found out ?

Sean South you are a nice guy sometimes and i don't wish to bring myself down to you debate debate levels the thread is about United Criminal Alliance-U.C.A. Ireland.

Feel free to start a thread on the IRA if you wish to do so i will debate with you on that, i think your position has become untenable on this thread, no matter how many funny faces you put in your posts the fact remains you do not know what your on about. you like the gerry adams martin mcguinness leadership and on the other hand the IRA now are doing a good job the fact is the two Republican sides do not like each other and only someone like yourself would like to make it look like they are all good mates because you don't know what your on about.


abe, I gave you a chance and you blew it, don't try to sidetrack me now with BS you called me out on the IRA enough times now so don't try and sidetrack this thread now because I have revealed the truth.

You stick to the facts and I will but call me out and I will cut out the bullshit buddy, it really is as simple as that.


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George Carlin
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It was not England, it was the whole of GREAT BRITAIN, the partition of 1921 was a political agreement and nothing to do with any military conflict with the Irish.

The Irish have never won a battle, let alone a war so we got rid and kept Ulster which is British


Funny how you go on about America being a beaming light of hope that saved our bacon in WW1 and WW2, we were actually there for the whole war and not hiding away till we had no choice but to get involved.

The British army is recognised as the best in the world, we are a small country that does not get pushed around by anyone. The British people could not be destroyed by the luftwaffe, or the IRA and now by Islamic nuts. As Churchill said we will NEVER SURRENDER cool


British is best....
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