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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #755899
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Are you sure Michael Marcello is not made? I agree Talarico was not made. As for the Dotes, Carl is most likely not made. I believe Tony is made. As Marco's #2, how could he not be made? He was in charge of too many high powered rackets not to be made.
Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #755905
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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #755921
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Mickey Marcello wasn't made at the time of Family Secrets, not sure about now.

"Snakes... Snakes... I don't know no Snakes."
Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #755926
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Funkster I believe that is worthy of it's own thread

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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #755940
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Done.
Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: Snakes] #756000
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Originally Posted By: Snakes
Mickey Marcello wasn't made at the time of Family Secrets, not sure about now.


That's correct. He was identified in the indictment as a member of the Melrose Park crew but not a made member of the Outfit.

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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #756043
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Harry Aleman said once in an interview that Jimmy wouldn't get his brother involved because Mickey was a "legit guy."

For whatever that's worth.

One, Mickey obviously was involved to a degree.

Two, Aleman's definition of "legit" may be far different than the average fella.
Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #756051
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Mickey marcello isn't a gangster & was never close to being made. He was a messenger & overseer for his brother
Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #757497
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Did we ever establish what the address of Survivor's Club was? Where in Elmwood did Marco move his club to? It still there?
Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: funkster] #757503
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Originally Posted By: funkster
Cecola?

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/24617...ld-he-kill.html


From what I hear, this guy was a former collector for the Outfit who (like others) thinks he can now take them on. It may be good for him that he was pinched...guys like Sam Cecola [....] are not people you want to openly threaten and try or extort. They have deadly friends and deep pockets.

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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: Mmalioni] #757504
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Originally Posted By: Mmalioni
Also forgot that Vito Spillone from Los Angeles is shelved.


Vito is Paul Carparelli's uncle.
Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: funkster] #757505
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Originally Posted By: funkster
ChiTown, how involved is Sammy C's brother Nick? I recall he was seen in the FBI surveillance photos released with Sammy C and Sarno.


Nick is essentially his brother's go-to guy. If I had to guess, I would assume he is also made. Both Cautadella's along with John Cautadella are cousins with Vito Scavo, the former MP Police Chief who is now in prison.
Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: ChiTown] #757545
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Originally Posted By: ChiTown
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Cecola?

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/24617...ld-he-kill.html


From what I hear, this guy was a former collector for the Outfit who (like others) thinks he can now take them on. It may be good for him that he was pinched...guys like Sam Cecola [....] are not people you want to openly threaten and try or extort. They have deadly friends and deep pockets.

Any idea which crew he used to collect for? So do you think Cecola is the "strong guy" mentioned in the article?

It's crazy how interconnected all these guys are through blood relations and family marriages. It's like an episode of Game of Thrones.

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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: funkster] #757550
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Originally Posted By: funkster
Did we ever establish what the address of Survivor's Club was? Where in Elmwood did Marco move his club to? It still there?


Found it in an old book!

1140 W. Taylor St., currently the China Night Cafe.

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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #757561
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Ah good find. Which book? That's pretty close to that Lexington and Racine social club.
Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #757564
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It was in Everybody Pays.

Great, underrated book BTW.
Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: jonnynonos] #757587
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Originally Posted By: jonnynonos
It was in Everybody Pays.

Great, underrated book BTW.


By Andrew Vachss?
Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: ChiTown] #757600
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Originally Posted By: ChiTown
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Also forgot that Vito Spillone from Los Angeles is shelved.


Vito is Paul Carparelli's uncle.



What side of his family?
Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #757601
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Mandell has definitely had a storied history. It sounds like Elmwood Park is still somewhat active.
Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: SgWaue86] #757616
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Originally Posted By: SgWaue86
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It was in Everybody Pays.

Great, underrated book BTW.


By Andrew Vachss?


No, two Chicago Tribune reporters, Maurice Posley and Rick Kogan.

It's about the Aleman trial, and how his case was the first case of double jeopardy in US history. (He was tried a second time after it was determined Cooley had paid off the judge in the first trial.)
Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: funkster] #757632
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Cecola?

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/24617...ld-he-kill.html


From what I hear, this guy was a former collector for the Outfit who (like others) thinks he can now take them on. It may be good for him that he was pinched...guys like Sam Cecola [....] are not people you want to openly threaten and try or extort. They have deadly friends and deep pockets.

Any idea which crew he used to collect for? So do you think Cecola is the "strong guy" mentioned in the article?

It's crazy how interconnected all these guys are through blood relations and family marriages. It's like an episode of Game of Thrones.


I think that Cecola and [....] are two of the "strongest" or "wealthiest" Outfit-connected strip club owners.

Polekatz in Gary is also a major Outfit front.

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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #757650
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Polekatz is in Bridgeview.
Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #757663
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Always wondered about Heavenly Bodies in Elk Grove too. Don't remember the owner's name, but I remember his place getting raided a few years back and a ton of money was confiscated. Of course, could have just been some scumbag strip club owner being shady.
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I am always the one going by the FBI stats, but I will say there are likely quite a few "sleepers" out there that people don't know about.

My family lived next to people like that for several years in a city that is frequently discussed on these boards and where a lot of people think they know every single "associate" etc.

I have never seen these peoples name come up, ever, anywhere, online or in the paper, and there is really no doubt that they were mobbed up--to the point where I would be very, very surprised if the father and the brother were not "made." A police officer basically told us that was the case, even.

So... you never really know.
Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: Toodoped] #757702
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Don't forget about Tony Cap..He was right there w/ Ricca until he died in the 50's.
Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: jonnynonos] #757709
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Originally Posted By: jonnynonos
I am always the one going by the FBI stats, but I will say there are likely quite a few "sleepers" out there that people don't know about.

My family lived next to people like that for several years in a city that is frequently discussed on these boards and where a lot of people think they know every single "associate" etc.

I have never seen these peoples name come up, ever, anywhere, online or in the paper, and there is really no doubt that they were mobbed up--to the point where I would be very, very surprised if the father and the brother were not "made." A police officer basically told us that was the case, even.

So... you never really know.

City in the Midwest?
Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #757722
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Grew up in Melrose Park
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Anyone know if Johnny "The Bug" Varelli is still alive?

He was involved in the vending machine rackets back in the 70's.

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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #758253
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Anyone been reading the recent ANP stuff? Who is these Venute AND Mazzochi guys are that an anonymous commenter has been talking about?
Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: funkster] #758337
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The Mazzocchis are a Brady Bunch like group of brothers and half brothers that have been causing trouble in Melrose Park for 20+ years..lets see there is Mike, Brian, Joe ( deceased ) , the twins Donny and Danny and even another if im not mistaken. Mike had a feud with Buddy Ciotti's late son Nick about 12-13 yrs ago over a coke deal and a woman. Buddy's response was to sick then police chief Vito Scavo on them lol. A Tarantino movie could be written about some of that shit..:)
Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #758434
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Interesting...there is an apparently Chicago connection.

http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_...d-bank-234.html
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