I'd love to read all the files too just like everyone else..but i have a feeling we're going to be disappointed when they finally are released. Maybe some embarrassing stuff but i bet theres nothing pointing to a huge conspiracy to kill the president.

I have the ebook that Vincent Bugliosi wrote on the assassination "Reclaiming History" but for some reason they stripped it of all the photos so if anyone does want to pick it up get the actual book not the ebook.

Ruth Paine had connecting links to Allen Dulles CIA.

Ruth Paine was born in 1932. She was educated at Swarthmore College. A committed Quaker, she was an active member of the American Civil Liberties Union.

Ruth married and settled in Irving, Texas. Her husband, Michael Paine, found employment as a research engineer with the Bell Helicopter Company, whereas Ruth was employed as a part-time teacher of the Russian language at St. Marks School in Dallas.

In 1963 Michael Paine left the family home. According to the author Jim Bishop (The Day Kennedy Was Shot), it was a "friendly estrangement". Ruth continued to live in Irving and at a party in February, 1963 she was introduced to Marina Oswald and Lee Harvey Oswald by George De Mohrenschildt. On 24th April, 1963, Marina and her daughter went to live with Ruth Paine. Lee Harvey Oswald rented a room in Dallas but stored some of his possessions in Ruth Paine’s garage. Ruth also helped Oswald to get a job at the Texas School Book Depository.

On 31st October, 1963, an FBI agent, James Hosty visited Paine's home to discover where Oswald was living. He spoke to both Paine and Marina Oswald about Lee Harvey Oswald. When Oswald heard about the visit he went to the FBI office in Dallas. When told that Hosty was at lunch Oswald left him a message in an envelope.

The contents of the envelope has remained a mystery. A receptionist working at the Dallas office claimed it included a threat to "blow up the FBI and the Dallas Police Department if you don't stop bothering my wife." Hosty later claimed it said: "If you have anything you want to learn about me, come talk to me directly. If you don't cease bothering my wife, I will take appropriate action and report this to the proper authorities."

According to fellow worker, Dave Noel, Michael Paine discussed the "character of assassins" a few hours before President John F. Kennedy was killed. He also returned to his home in Irving at 3.00 p.m. to find Dallas police officers searching the premises. He told the police: "As soon as I found out about it, I hurried over to see if I could help."

Anthony Summers reported in his book, The Kennedy Conspiracy that Michael Paine was overheard talking to his wife on the phone. He said that he was sure that Lee Harvey Oswald had killed John F. Kennedy. He added: "We both know who is responsible."

Buddy Walthers took part in the search of the home of Ruth Paine. Walthers told Eric Tagg that they "found six or seven metal filing cabinets full of letters, maps, records and index cards with names of pro-Castro sympathizers." James DiEugenio has argued that this "cinches the case that the Paines were domestic surveillance agents in the Cold War against communism."

Ruth Paine was a key witnesses for the Warren Commission and provided detailed information on the activities of Marina Oswald and Lee Harvey Oswaldbefore the assassination. Jim Garrison later suggested that Ruth Paine might have been involved in setting Oswald up as the "patsy". Garrison points out that Paine's father " had been employed by the Agency for International Development, regarded by many as a source of cover for the C.I.A. Her brother-in-law was employed by the same agency in the Washington, D.C. area." He also claims that he had tried to "examine the income tax returns of Ruth and Michael Paine, but I was told that they had been classified as secret.... What was so special about this particular family that made the federal government so protective of it?"

In 2002 Thomas Mallon wrote a book about Ruth Paine's involvement in the case, Mrs. Paine's Garage and the Murder of John F. Kennedy. Unlike Jim Garrison Mallon took the view that Paine was completely innocent of any involvement in the Kennedy assassination conspiracy.

Ruth Paine has worked for a Nicaraguan relief group in St. Petersburg, Florida. She is also a peace activist. In 1982 she claimed: "This year, for the first time, I am withholding that portion of my income tax (40 percent), which I estimate goes toward military uses and war preparations" In 2004 she was interviewed by the St. Petersburg Times: "I believe in taxation. I believe in government.. But I also believe in our right to religious freedom. And I believe in the fact that we value dissent as a patriotic thing."

He also claims that he had tried to "examine the income tax returns of Ruth and Michael Paine, but I was told that they had been classified as secret.... What was so special about this particular family that made the federal government so protective of it?

WELL JUST LIKE LHO TAX RETURNS CLASSIFIED TOP SECRET 50 YEARS ON WHY IS THAT PEOPLE ASK ?

Oh an other CIA MAN with links to Ruth and Micheal Paine.

George de Mohrenschildt.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_de_Mohrenschildt

Too many people would have knowledge and it's been 50 years and nobody can prove anything. You have to seperate provable facts from stuff that keeps getting repeated and is taken as a fact.

Ruth Paine is somehow related to John Kerry...not sure how though.

Where's Lou Para....i need some backup here. lol

You have to seperate provable facts from stuff that keeps getting repeated and is taken as a fact.

Just left in my last post 4 people with CIA links to LHO now does not take much cop on to say something funny going on if any other case but JFK people would say wow LHO was not on his own CIA are all over this.

Allen Dulles CIA

George de Mohrenschildt CIA

Well i guess we'll just have to wait and see if theres anything in those files.....but honestly i'll be surprised if theres anything proving a cia conspiracy in them.

I could be wrong, but so far i just don't see it proven.

There will be fuck all evidence in any files on anything other then LHO Ruth and Micheal Paine George de Mohrenschildt etc worked for CIA TAX RETURNS will prove this.

Now will this prove they killed JFK ? NO it will not, but on the balance of probabilities it will show Cia linked people was up to their eyes in something that got JFK killed or they set out to kill JFK.

It does not take alot of people to pull this JFK job off.

Ok, we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.

Well the evidence shows what it shows CIA linked people are all over LHO that is a fact, and where ever that leads us all i don't know but the GOV are up to something what ever that maybe.

http://www.ibtimes.com/jfk-assassination-first-jfk-conspiracy-theory-was-paid-cia-1496582

Less than one day after the assassination of President John F. Kennedy in Dallas, a Central Intelligence Agency-funded organization in Miami published a special edition of its monthly magazine in which it linked the accused assassin, Lee Harvey Oswald, to Cuban President Fidel Castro.

According to JFKFacts.org moderator Jefferson Morley, this was the first JFK assassination conspiracy theory to reach the public in print.

Moreover, the CIA propaganda effort remains exactly that -- a lie and an attempt to spread a conspiracy theory -- because there has never been a preponderance of evidence -- let alone incontrovertible evidence -- that Castro or Castro-backed groups organized or implemented a plot to murder the U.S. president.

The Nov. 23, 1963, special edition of the magazine, Trinchera (in English: Trenches), was published by members of the Cuban Student Directorate, a CIA-funded organization based in Miami.

Leaders of the Directorate, also known as the DRE, its Spanish acronym, received $51,000 per month in 1963 dollars ($389,000 per month in 2013 dollars), or roughly $4.8 million per year, from the CIA, according to an April 1963 memo found in the JFK Library in Boston.

Declassified CIA records prove that the publication was paid for by undercover CIA Officer George Joannides, who was chief of psychological operations in the CIA’s Miami station.

Ongoing Suit To Make Public JFK Assassination Files Held By CIA

Morley is the plaintiff in the ongoing Morley v. CIA suit, which seeks to make public Joannides’ classified files.

Morley believes Joannides’ files -- and at least some of the information in the more than 1,100 other related classified files from key CIA officers -- will provide more information regarding the Nov. 22, 1963, assassination of President Kennedy. The CIA, which said the files are “not believed relevant” to the JFK assassination, has refused to make public the files, citing “national security.” However, the CIA's claim has never been independently verified.

In Morley’s suit, his attorney has responded to the CIA’s latest brief, on the issue of court fees. Having won on appeal twice, the plaintiff Morley argues that the standard practice of the U.S government paying court fees for a successful appeal should apply. The CIA counters that the litigation has not generated any significant new information, and therefore the government should not have to pay the court fees. The issue is now in the hands of U.S. Judge Richard Leon.

Other files related to the JFK assassination that the CIA refuses to make public include the files of CIA Officers David Atlee Phillips, Birch D. O’Neal, E. Howard Hunt, William King Harvey and Anne Goodpasture.

Regarding the Directorate (DRE), within the CIA, the south Florida Anti-Castro group was known by its code name AMSPELL. The group was “conceived, created and funded by the Agency in September 1960 and terminated in December 1966,” according to a CIA memo, dated April 1967.

CIA Miami Psychological Warfare Operations Chief Joannides handled contacts with the DRE, according to Joannides’ July 1963 job evaluation. With the CIA’s support, the DRE engaged in “intelligence collection, political action and propaganda.”

In its Nov. 23, 1963, special edition, the DRE's Trinchera focused on comments Oswald made during a debate on a New Orleans radio program with DRE Delegate Carlos Bringuier in August 1963. The DRE asserted that Oswald and Castro were “the presumed assassins.”

Also, earlier, in August 1963, Joannides’s AMSPELL had a series of encounters with a Castro supporter named Oswald in New Orleans. The Cuban students confronted and publicized Oswald’s one-man chapter of the pro-Castro Fair Play for Cuba Committee, which generated newspaper, radio and TV coverage of Oswald’s obscure, tiny political action group.

Hence, two objective facts stemming from the above are:

1) Joannides was running “psychological warfare” operations aimed at discrediting Castro supporters in the United States in the summer of 1963.

2) Members of Joannides’ AMSPELL network played a leading role in publicizing Oswald’s pro-Castro views both before and after Kennedy was assassinated.

The question Morley v CIA seeks to answer is: are the two facts related?

The CIA could clarify the situation, but, as noted, the CIA won’t make public or release the aforementioned files on Joannides, nor will it make public the files of the other key CIA officers.

CIA: Pattern Of Obstruction Regarding Joannides, Et Al.

So what, one may ask, is the CIA hiding? What is in the Joannides’ file and the other CIA officers’ files that the Agency is so worried about?

It might be something as minor as an operation or project that was mismanaged or had failed despite a large amount of money, time, energy or resources allocated to it. No U.S. government department wants to be seen foundering or mismanaging public dollars -- particularly not in the current era of fiscal austerity.

That said, given the CIA’s history of failing to tell the truth and obfuscation, the Joannides’ files may indicate something more substantial, something that reflects adversely -- or worse -- on the Agency. That’s because the CIA’s latest refusal to make public the files represents the fourth time the Agency has opposed a public interest effort to obtain the full truth on the assassination of President Kennedy. Those incidences:

1) Warren Commission: delay and obstruct. In 1964, CIA Deputy Director Richard Helms, “the man who kept the secrets,” and Joannides’ boss, never told the Warren Commission that Kennedy’s alleged assassin had scuffled with the CIA-backed Cubans in New Orleans. Helms also never disclosed that Joannides -- and other CIA agents who were under his supervision and funding -- had helped communicate the story of Oswald’s pro-Castro activities. It wasn’t until 1998 -- when the CIA was forced to disclose Joannides’ support for Oswald’s antagonists among the anti-Castro students -- that the public learned of this psychological warfare operation. The Agency has resisted further disclosure about the nature, focus and objective of Joannides’ operations in 1963 ever since.

2) HSCA: lie, deflect, delay and obstruct. In 1978, Joannides served as CIA liaison to the House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA), which re-investigated the JFK assassination, but he did not disclose the obvious conflict of interest to the HSCA in regard to his role in the events of 1963.

HSCA Chief Counsel G. Robert Blakey said that had he known who Joannides was at that time, Joannides would have not continued as CIA liaison, but would have become a witness who would have been interrogated under oath by the HSCA staff or by the committee. In addition, Joannides’ failure-to-disclose occurred despite the fact that Blakey and the CIA had a pre-investigation agreement between the HSCA and the CIA that CIA personnel who were operational in 1963 could not be involved in the committee’s investigation.

Many would consider the above deception by the CIA audacious, to put it diplomatically.

When Morley first informed Blakey about a decade ago about Joannides’ role in the very anti-Castro activities from 1963 that the HSCA was investigating, Blakey was flabbergasted:

“If I’d known his [Joannides’] role in 1963, I would have put Joannides under oath -- he would have been a witness, not a facilitator,” Blakey, now a law professor at the University of Notre Dame, told The New York Times. “How do we know what he didn’t give us?”

3) ARRB: lie again, delay and obstruct. After Oliver Stone’s seminal 1991 film “JFK” increased debate about who was behind Kennedy’s murder, the public pressured Congress to declassify more files related to the JFK assassination, and Congress created the Assassination Records Review Board (ARRB) to oversee the release of more documents. However, incredibly, the CIA once again failed to tell the ARRB about Joannides’ 1963 work, and the board was blinded to a legitimate and germane investigation area.

U.S. Judge Jack Tunheim, ARRB chairman from 1994-1995, said that had the board known about Joannides’ activities in 1963, it would have been a no-brainer to investigate him:

“If we’d known of his role in Miami in 1963, we would have pressed for all his records,” Judge Tunheim said, the New York Times reported.

4) Obstruction No. 4: Morley v CIA

Fast-forward 18 years into the now postmodern era, and the CIA’s response to petitions for pubic disclosure in the Morley v CIA case looks a lot like its stance versus the Warren Commission, the HSCA and the ARRB: refuse to make public the documents, seek to delay, obfuscate the issues, and do not confirm or deny.

Moreover, the CIA’s stance versus Morley looks all the more problematic due to the fact that it has been 50 years since the assassination of President Kennedy. The Cold War is over: the United States won. There is no existential threat to the United States. Russia, the world's second strongest military power, while not a U.S. ally, is not an enemy, either, but a rival. Cuba’s centrally planned communist economic model has been discredited for decades, and it will likely become a market-oriented economy in the decade ahead. Cuba also poses no threat to the U.S. or its interests in the region -- i.e., don’t expect Cuba to invade Florida or export its centrally planned economic system to Brazil or Mexico any time soon. Even so, the CIA argues that making public the classified JFK assassination files would cause “extremely grave damage” to U.S. national security.

JFK Assassination Investigation Status

It must be underscored that, to date, there is no smoking gun or incontrovertible evidence of a plot or conspiracy to assassinate President Kennedy, but there is a pattern of suspicious activity, along with a series of anomalies and a commonality of interests among key parties, that compel additional research and the release of non-public documents.

Further, the CIA probably is not covering up some tectonic, systemic crisis-triggering secret about the assassination of President Kennedy, or even evidence of a colossal Agency operational failure that would prompt the American people to call for a dismantling of the national security state apparatus.

But you would not know it from the CIA’s stance toward the old, still-classified JFK assassination files.

Like i posted previously, LBJ to the day he died supposedly believed Castro was behind the assassination. At least that was what Joseph Califano said LBJ told him.

LBJ allegedly told Califano that JFK wanted Castro dead but Castro beat him to the punch. Who knows.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd1wuXrVPjo

LBJ on LHO.

For everyone who is eager to see Oswald's Tax returns,wait for 3 years,not 50. They are scheduled to be released in 2017. I found this out by actually researching it,not just repeating what"everyone says". As far as Ruth Paine, let me get this straight. The claim is that a woman who was a Quaker,an ACLU member,and a peace activist,insinuated herself in a plot to blow JFK's head wide open on national TV. I'm going to need a little more before I buy this one. From the above article "the contents of the envelope remained a mystery". That means that nobody knows what was in the envelope.That means that no conclusions of any kind can be drawn about the contents of the envelope. None.Period.Ever.

Glad to see you back Lou. I needed some backup.

House Select Committee on Assassinations.

HSCA Chief Counsel G. Robert Blakey said that had he known who Joannides was at that time, Joannides would have not continued as CIA liaison, but would have become a witness who would have been interrogated under oath by the HSCA staff or by the committee.

Now that says it all they are hiding something.

You can't come up anything to show people were not cia when they all have links to cia,

IF anything the evidence shows people with links to the cia was pals with LHO before the JFK hit now that is a Fact does not show anything other than LHO and people with cia links was together before the hit but at the end of the day the evidence shows links.

Our damn Government was involved in the hit. That's all I gotta say. Facts prove it.

Ok...we're just talking here. I definitely respect everyones opinions on this. Like i said i was a big believer in all the conspiracy stuff for a very long time before my thoughts on it started changing.

But about the tax returns...you guys don't really expect to see a w2 from the CIA do you? Even if he really was a spy or whatever i seriously doubt it would be on his tax return. Not positive but i think Marina released the 1962 tax records. Pretty sure i read that somewhere....but i'd have to double check it to be sure.

Even if he really was a spy or whatever i seriously doubt it would be on his tax return ?

Well put it this way before the JFK Hit LHO was going about with people with CIA LINKS, THIS IS A FACT.

What ever way you look at this JFK hit LHO done it on his own, or with other people ? he was with CIA people with links to the CIA.

Now the evidence in the case shows that the FBI-CIA new LHO, people with CIA LINKS NEW LHO.

Allen Dulles CIA sacked by JFK had links to Ruth Paine and her husband who are pretty spooky characters in all of this LHO info.

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?absPageId=172708

Warren Commission Executive Session of 22 Jan 1964 ?

Now why are they hiding this info ?

Warren Commissioner Allen Dulles, during a January 22, 1964, executive session at which the allegation that Lee Harvey Oswald was a paid informant for the FBI was discussed. The transcript was indeed destroyed, but an original court reporter’s tape was later recovered and the transcript re-made from it after a long legal battle brought by Harold Weisberg, a former Capitol Hill staffer and JFK researcher.

I rest my case, if they was not up to their eyes in something why
destroyed transcripts of this session ?

Forget the mob, grassy knoll, two sides of the cuban issues.

There is noway anyone but the GOV destroyed transcripts AND OTHER EVIDENCE.

Why have they destroyed transcripts and other stuff if LHO was a lone nut who shot John F. Kennedy - 35th President of the United States ?

Now on till we get to know what LHO and his CIA mates was up too before the JFK hit will we ever know the true facts.

Even if LHO shot JFK on his own that day you can't get away from the fact he could have done it on the orders of his CIA link mates who he was with before the hit.

I myself think he was in on the plot in some way but did not let off the shots himself but may have let people into his job to do so.

He may have ran to hide something after the hit in the house or passed something to other people went down the road to some place were he was to be set up and shot dead but this did not come off so they got him at the next time they could.

Ok...it looks like neither of us are going to change the mind of the other so we'll just have to agree to disagree on this.

Oswald the "Lone Nut"

Yup nothing to see here , keep moving


The Oswald Calendars
Oswald? Calendar I

9/25 /63 : Visit to the military commission in Austin to change his marine discharge papers

9/25/63 : Three unidentified figures - two Latin and one American , Leon Oswald - are seen at the house of Silvia Odio , a Cuban immigrant . The characteristics of the American : ex-marine, marksman, cranky, daredevil, anti-Castroite, ready to kill Fidel, and suggesting that the Cubans take care of Kennedy for the Bay of Pigs .

First week of October : Three men take target practice in a vacant lot in a Dallas suburb . One is Latin another “resembles” Oswald . One collects all the fired cartridges . The owner of the lot finds a 6.5 - caliber cartridge from a Mannlicher Carcano . The FBI later determined that the bullet was not fired from Oswald’s rifle . Must have been a sale at Kleins?

10/7 - 14 : A change of address form is competed and filed in a New Orleans post office for L H O . Someone who resembles Oswald attends a meeting of DRE on the 13th . General Walker is present .

11/1 :-7 A person who resembles Oswald buys rifle cartridges in Fort Worth while Oswald is in Dallas that day . Another Oswald look-alike visits another gun store in Fort Worth . He inquires into the possibility of attaching a scope to a rifle . He’s accompanied by a woman and 2 small children .

11/8 : An Oswald applies for a job as a parking-garage attendant at Southland Hotel in central Dallas. He inquires about the height of the building and the field of vision from the top.

11/8 : In the neighborhood where Marina lives Oswald goes to a supermarket to cash a check for $189 .

11/9 : Oswald begins to frequent a rifle range in Dallas . He shoots well but calls attention to himself by his behavior .

11/9 : This is the infamous test drive at the Auto dealer where he brags of coming into a bunch of money real soon.

11/16 : Oswald starts shooting at someone else’s target with his 6.5mm shooting MC.

11/18 : Pedro Gonzales the president of the anti-Castro group in Albilene receives a note signed by Lee Oswald from his neighbor .It asks Gonzales to to call him at one of two Dallas phone numbers .

11/23 : An informant for the DPD states that the house where Oswald attended anti-Castro meetings several times has been abandoned for a few days . The address of which belonged to Alpha 66 .

Oswald Calendar II

8/9 : Oswald is arrested for his little skirmish in New Orleans while handing out pamphlets .

8/10 : Speaks with an FBI agent at the police station after his arrest .

8/16 : Appears on TV in New Orleans to promote upcoming Fair Play for Cuba demonstration .

8/17 : Appears on a local radio program where he praises the Cuban revolution.

8/21 : Debates with anti-Castro supporters on the radio . Mails letters to the US Communist party HQ in New York.

8/31 : Sends letters to the Daily Worker in New York looking for a job as a photographer with the intention of moving there . Also to the Socialist Workers party HQ in in New York stating that he intends to move to the Washington -Baltimore and looks to contact representatives there .

9/1 : More letters to the US Communist party stating he is moving to Washington DC area and would like establish contacts .

9/17 : Secures visa to Mexico from the Mexican consulate in New Orleans

9/23 : Family moves to Dallas to reside with Ruth Paine

9/25 : Leaves New Orleans for Mexico ?

9/27 : Visits Soviet and Cuban embassies to get visas

9/28 : Same as above

10/3 : Back in Dallas looking for work

10/15 : Begins works at the TSBD . Thank you Ruth !

10/23 : Attends a right-wing meeting where Gen. Walker is a speaker .

10/25 : Ruth Paines husband invites Oswald to a meeting of the liberal ACLU .Oswald pays dues and joins group .

11/1 : Sends letter to the US Commie Party asking for advice on how to raise progressive tendencies in the ACLU .

11/12 : Mails letter to Soviet embassy in Washington about visit to Mexico .

11/12 : Went to FBI in Dallas and leaves note for SA Hosty expressing irritation for harassment of Marina

11/21 : Unexpectedly spends night at Paine residence . Spends night and drives to work the next day with a neighbor .

Oswald - FBI Calendar III

8/10 : Oswald is questioned by SA John Kelly after arrest in New Orleans

8/ 22 : New Orleans FBI listens to Oswald radio interview

8/ 23 : FBI HQ asks NEW Orleans branch for results of its investigation of LHO

9/10 : New Orleans FBI is in charge of monitoring Oswald .FBI requests information from Dallas branch .

9/24 : New Orleans branch notifies HQ that the investigation is ongoing and will notify them of any further developments

10/2 : New Orleans determines the Oswalds have moved . Dallas branch continues investigation.

10/10 : FBI is informed of Oswalds contact with Soviet embassy in Mexico by CIA

10/18 : FBI receives more info of Oswald visit by its rep in Mexico

10/22 : FBI SA Hosty receives and forwards analogous information from the Immigration and Naturalization Service to New Orleans branch

10/26 : New Orleans determines the Oswalds have deserted the Irving address and asks Dallas branch to determine the new address

10/30 : Hosty informs NO branch that the Oswalds live with Ruth Paine but Lee does not live there

11/1 : Hosty visits Paine residence and speaks with Ruth Paine and Marina . He learns? Lee works at the TSBD and lives alone address unknown . Ya right .

11/5 : Hosty revisits the Paine residence

11/8 : The CIA gets the FBI information on Oswald from 10/31

11/12-15 : Hosty picks up Oswald’s note from receptionist and leaves it unread on his desk until the 22nd

11/15 : The CIA directs FBI Oswald information to its counterintelligence branch , Special Services Division , Special Affairs Staff in charge of all Cuban operations.

11/18 : The FBI in Washington receives a copy of Oswalds letter to the Soviet embassy and directs it to Dallas

11/22 The document arrives in Dallas but Hosty only acquaints himself with its contents after the assassination.



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Busy little buggah, no?

Well you say LHO did it on his own ? if that is the case why destroyed transcripts of this session ? what was he doing with George de Mohrenschildt a right wing person, LHO was said to be left wing some mix that.

Now LHO was what i said to you CIA links.

JANE ROMAN CIA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SjLFYVjUFY

http://www.history-matters.com/essays/frameup/WhatJaneRomanSaid/WhatJaneRomanSaid_1.htm

Now read this ok.

WHAT JANE ROMAN SAID

A Retired CIA Officer Speaks Candidly About Lee Harvey Oswald
By Jefferson Morley
This is the previously-unknown story of three senior CIA officers—Jane Roman, George Joannides and John Whitten—who knew about the activities of accused presidential assassin Lee Harvey Oswald in 1963. It is based on interviews and recently declassified CIA records in the National Archives.

Their story, as told by Washington journalist Jefferson Morley, reveals the CIA's pre-assassination knowledge of Kennedy's accused killer to be wider and deeper than generally known. It also documents the CIA's role in the publication of the first JFK conspiracy theory.

A keen interest in Oswald’

The agency’s interest in Oswald in late 1963, Roman explained, was the result of his involvement with the pro-Castro Fair Play for Cuba Committee, often known by its acronym, FPCC. The agency had wiretap transcripts proving that the FPCC was funded by the Cuban government, via Castro’s delegation at the United Nations in New York. It was Oswald’s FPCC activities that most interested the counterintelligence staff in 1963, she said.

Newman then reviewed the routing slips on two documents about Oswald that Roman herself had received in September 1963.

The first was the FBI report from agent Hosty in Dallas. Hosty reported on Oswald’s address in the summer of 1963 and his recent leftist political activities, including his subscription to the Socialist Worker newspaper.

The second report was more provocative. It was a report from the FBI in New Orleans, dated September 23, 1963. Oswald, it seemed, had gotten arrested. He had been handing out FPCC pamphlets on a street corner in New Orleans on August 9, 1963 when he was confronted by some members of the militantly anti-Castro group called the Directorio Revolucionario Estudantil or DRE, which was known to North American newspaper readers as the Cuban Student Directorate. An altercation ensued. Oswald and some of the Cubans were arrested. An agent in the New Orleans office of the FBI wrote up a report and sent it to Washington.

The FBI, it should be noted, was not the only organization interested in Oswald’s political activities. The Cuban students were also collecting intelligence on the young ex-Marine.

The Cuban Student Directorate, long since forgotten, was among the most prominent anti-Castro organizations of the day. Composed of exiled middle-class students from the University of Havana, the Directorate rallied young people in Miami against Castro’s communist movement. It won headlines around the world for sensational actions such as attempting to assassinate Castro outside a Havana hotel in August 1962. At CIA headquarters in Langley the group was known by the code name AMSPELL. With the U.S. support, the Directorate flourished and established chapters in cities throughout North and South America in the early 1960s.

The Directorate followed up on Oswald’s antics just as the FBI did. In August 1963, the New Orleans delegation of the group reported to the Directorate’s headquarters in Miami that a Castro supporter named Oswald was trying to infiltrate their ranks. The Directorate leaders in Miami authorized the New Orleans chapter to issue a press release denouncing Oswald’s pro-Castro ways. The New Orleans students also challenged Oswald to a debate on a local radio program. When Oswald accepted they made a tape of his remarks criticizing U.S. policy toward Cuba.

Of course, none of this was in the FBI records. At the time of our interview with Jane Roman, Newman and I knew only that the Directorate had received funding from the CIA under a program with the code name of AMSPELL. There was, it turns out, much more to know. All we had was the FBI report on the arrest of Oswald and his antagonists in the Cuban Student Directorate that was forwarded to the CIA. The routing slip showed that Roman signed for it on October 4, 1963.

Newman recounted the circumstances in which she signed for the report. Five weeks after his brawl with the Cuban Student Directorate in New Orleans, Oswald had caught a bus to Mexico City where he visited both the Cuban and Russian diplomatic offices seeking a visa. The CIA surveillance team watching two offices figured out the visitor’s name was Lee Oswald. The surveillance team reported their finding to David Atlee Phillips, the chief of Cuban operations in Mexico City. Phillips notified his boss, Win Scott, the chief of the Mexico City station. On October 8, 1963, Scott sent a cable to headquarters in Washington asking for more information about Oswald. Two days later, headquarters sent a response.

This was the next document that Newman gave to Roman for her perusal. She had helped prepare it thirty-one years before.

This three-page cable, dated October 10, 1963, seems innocuous. It was drafted by a woman named Charlotte Bustos. She worked on the Mexico desk of the CIA. It was her job to handle such routine inquiries. She did this by checking to see if the agency had ever opened a so-called 201 file on anyone named Lee Oswald. (A 201 file, sometimes known as a personality file, is opened on anybody of interest to the agency.) Because of his defection to the Soviet Union in 1959, Oswald already had a 201 file at CIA headquarters. Bustos reviewed it and drafted a reply. By the end of the workday on October 10, 1963, her draft had been revised by other CIA offices for coordination, authentication, and approval. No CIA cable could go out with such vetting.

The markings at the bottom of the document indicated which offices and which officers had been consulted. Jane Roman was identified as one of the officers who had seen in the cable “in draft form.” The cable was also seen by an “authenticating officer” whose task it was to vouch for its contents. That was J.C. King, the chief of all CIA operations in the Western Hemisphere. Finally, the cable had to be signed by a “releasing officer” who approved the policy contents of the message. That was Tom Karamessines, who served as top deputy to covert operations chief, Richard Helms.

At 10:28 p.m. on the night of Wednesday, October 10, 1963, the cable went to Mexico City.

Partisans of the anti-conspiratorial interpretation of Kennedy’s death stress that this cable was routine. It certainly seems to be, despite the hour at which it was sent. In the cable, Karamessines passed on to Mexico City what the agency purported to know about Lee Oswald: that he had defected to the Soviet Union in October 1959, that he had married a Russian woman, and that he had moved back to the United States in the spring of 1962. The cable stated that the “latest HDQS [headquarters] info[rmation]” about this young American was a State Department report from May 1962, which stated that his time in the Soviet Union had “a maturing effect” on him.

In the interview, Newman called Roman’s attention to this seemingly minor statement.

“It’s not even a little bit untrue,” he noted bluntly. “It’s grossly untrue.”

The juxtaposition was clear.

On the table was one cable which showed that Roman had signed off on the statement that the “latest HDQS info” on Oswald was a report from State Department report dated May 1962.

On top of that cable was the cable and routing slip that showed she had just a few days before signed for the two FBI reports on this same Lee Harvey Oswald. She had signed for the second of these reports on Oct. 4, 1963.

Newman’s implication was clear. If Roman had read the FBI reports, then she knew on October 10, 1963 that Oswald had just a few weeks earlier been handing out pamphlets on behalf of the FPCC, the most prominent pro-Castro organization in the United States. Moreover, Oswald’s pro-Castro activism had embroiled him in an altercation with members of the Cuban Student Directorate, one of the agency’s most favored front groups in the anti-Castro cause. All of this information was on Jane Roman’s desk in October 1963.

The logical conclusion: On October 10, 1963 the “latest HDQS info” on Oswald wasn’t a 17-month old State Department memo speculating about Oswald’s state of mind. It was a month-old FBI document about Oswald’s contacts with a CIA-sponsored organization. And Jane Roman—if she had done her job—had known it.

Roman thought carefully about what Newman was suggesting. Her response was telling. She didn’t deny that she had read the FBI reports on Oswald. She couldn’t--not with her initials on the routing slips.

Instead, Roman spoke about who had responsibility for the handling the contents of a cable about Oswald. She said the responsibility did not belong to CI/LS but to another office in the agency’s Directorate of Plans: the Special Affairs Staff (SAS). She was precise on why the cable didn’t it mention Oswald’s most recent activities, namely his clash with the anti-Castro Cubans in New Orleans.

“The only interpretation I could put on this [the language of the cable] would that this SAS group would have held all the information on Oswald under their tight control,” she said.

In the fall of 1963, the SAS was a new bureaucratic entity in the CIA. Created at the behest of the Kennedy White House, it was tasked with overthrowing of the government of Cuba without too much “noise,” meaning domestic political consequences. It was the bureaucratic incarnation of John and Robert Kennedy’s secret but abiding determination to remove Fidel Castro from power. It was created after the Cuban missile crisis of October 1962 was resolved. When the showdown over Soviet missiles in Cuba ended peacefully, Castro’s grip on power was stronger than ever.

Some thought JFK had squandered an opportunity to get rid of Castro. Others thought he had acted prudently. There was consensus that Operation Mongoose, the Kennedy brothers’ first covert program to oust the charismatic communist, was going nowhere. The SAS was created in January 1963 to take over the job. As for tactics, the Kennedy brothers didn’t care what SAS did as long as the White House had plausible deniability. The SAS operatives tried everything from assassination conspiracies to propaganda to political action to “psychological warfare,” the contemporary term of art for espionage that deceived and disoriented and divided the communists. Along the way, some of the SAS men became interested in the very obscure character named Lee Harvey Oswald.

At least that was Jane Roman’s reading of the cables.

These SAS men were being very careful with what they knew about Oswald. Under their tight control. Roman stressed that she was not privy to such things. She said that, for the counterintelligence staff, running such a check on a then-unknown personality like Oswald was simply mundane duty.

“All these things that you have shown me so far before the assassination would have been very dull and very routine,” she said.

That was very likely true, and Newman didn’t dispute it. He stressed a different point: that Roman, having read the FBI cables on Oswald and having seen the draft form of the cable to Mexico City, personally knew that the line about “latest HDQS info” on Oswald was not entirely accurate.

“You had to know that this sentence here was not correct,” Newman said.

“Well, I had thousands of these things,” Roman protested.

“I’m willing to accept whatever your explanation is,” Newman allowed, “ but I have to ask you this--”

Roman was getting testy.

“And I wasn’t in on any particular goings-on or hanky-panky as far as the Cuban situation,” she added.

“Right, so you wouldn’t have”--Newman groped for the right words, “what you’re saying is” He finished the thought: “…tried to examine it that closely?”

“Yeah, I mean, this is all routine as far as I was concerned,” she answered.

“Problem though, here,” Newman noted. He pointed to the line in the cable about “latest HDQS info.”

Roman understood his point and finally conceded it: “Yeah, I mean I’m signing off on something that I know isn’t true.”

I’m signing off on something that I know isn’t true.

This was doubly interesting. Roman was not only acknowledging not only was somebody in SAS interested in Oswald six weeks before Kennedy was killed. She was stating that whoever that somebody was made an affirmative decision to withhold information about him from other CIA officers before November 22, 1963.

Newman did not dwell on the point. He did not imply that Roman was involved in anything sinister. She was merely saying that she participated in drafting a cable in which the men higher up in the clandestine operations division chose not to tell the whole truth—something that was in the nature of their jobs.

Responsibility for the cable on Oswald, Roman said, belonged to the most senior officer who signed it, Tom Karamessines.

She was no doubt correct. Karamessines was Dick Helms’ right hand man. While Helms was sleek and bland, an Ivy Leaguer who was barbered to the nines and kept a clean desk, Karamessines was an earthy assimilated New Yorker. He had distinguished himself as a frontline soldier in the vicious Greek civil war of 1946-48. He went on to become the chief of the CIA station in Athens, the largest outpost of U.S. intelligence in the Near East. There he recruited a large number of Greek-Americans to work for the agency. In March 1962, Helms made him his top assistant and trusted him totally.

Newman wanted to know how Roman, with the benefit of hindsight, interpreted the contents of the cable about Lee Harvey Oswald that Tom Karamessines’ signed and sent to Mexico City late on the night of October 10, 1963.

“What does this tell you about this file, that somebody would write something they knew wasn’t true?” he asked.

“And I’m not saying that it has to be considered sinister, don’t misunderstand me,” Newman added. “It is one thing if I don’t say anything, I tell you ‘You don’t have a need to know.’ But if I tell you something that I know isn’t true, that’s an action [that] I’m taking for some reason. … I guess what I’m trying to push you to address square on here is, is this indicative of some sort of operational interest in Oswald’s file?”

This was the key question of the interview and Roman took it head on.

“Yes,” she replied. “To me its indicative of a keen interest in Oswald held very closely on the need to know basis.”

A keen interest in Oswald held very closely on the need to know basis.

Parsing this burst of intelligence jargon raised several questions.

“A keen interest” in Oswald required specific CIA personnel to be interested. Who?

These unknown senior CIA officials “held very closely” information about the accused assassin’s political activities before he killed Kennedy. Why would they do such a thing?

It occurred to me then that it was quite possible, even probable, that Jane Roman had been “out of the loop” back in 1963. It might well have been the first time that she had even thought about the question. Why had her colleagues send a cable to Mexico City stating that the latest information on Oswald was 17 months old when she (and others) had much more recent reports in hand?

Roman’s reply was thoughtful, not defensive.

“There wouldn’t be any point in withholding it [the recent information about Oswald],” she answered. “There has to be a point for withholding information from Mexico City.”

This was the third important insight that Roman offered: There has to be a point. There had to be a reason why unknown colleagues chose to withhold information from Win Scott in Mexico City.

Newman agreed. He offered his belief that “somebody made a decision about Oswald’s file here.” Somebody, meaning one or more of her CIA colleagues in Washington.

Roman understood his implication: some specific people in the CIA hierarchy were deliberately manipulating information about Oswald weeks before Kennedy was killed. She mulled the possibilities.

“Well, the obvious position which I really can’t contemplate would be that they [meaning the people with final authority over the cable] thought that somehow … they could make some use of Oswald,” she said.

This was both fair and precise. Roman was not saying that she knew or believed somebody in the CIA was trying to make use of Oswald seven weeks before he allegedly shot Kennedy. But clearly she thought it was possible based on the paper trail in front of her. In any case, Roman did not dispute Newman’s underlying point. In fact, she said she basically agreed with it—with one reservation.

“I would think that there was definitely some operational reason to withhold it [the information at headquarters on Oswald], if it was not sheer administrative error, when you see all the people who signed off on it.”

Jane Roman would later tell confidants that “administrative error” could explain everything in the Oswald paper trail. On the tape of the interview, Roman’s tone of voice when she says “administrative error” sounds more ironic than emphatic, at least to my ears. Roman did not elucidate how “sheer administrative error” might account for the misstatement about headquarters’ knowledge of the recent activities of Oswald. She did not acknowledge any administrative errors of her own or of anybody else. She did not pursue the point. With the documents in front of her, Roman could not and did not explain how “administrative error” created the Oct. 10, 1963 cable.

As she herself said, “There had to be a point.”

For me, that was the clincher. Roman agreed that the cable traffic about Oswald showed that somebody in the CIA covert operations division was thinking carefully about Oswald before Kennedy was killed. I came away certain that Jane Roman did not know who that somebody was.

After the interview was over, the three of us chatted for a while. Roman made clear that she thought conspiratorial explanations of the Kennedy assassination were absurd. She said that she believed the leaders of the Warren Commission were men of integrity capable of uncovering the truth. She said she had no reason to doubt their finding that Oswald acted alone. She bore considerable animus toward Oliver Stone for making a popular movie that suggested otherwise.

We stressed that we were interested in thoroughly exploring what the new JFK records showed and thanked her for her time.


Now i rest my case this says it all,

For me, that was the clincher. Roman agreed that the cable traffic about Oswald showed that somebody in the CIA covert operations division was thinking carefully about Oswald before Kennedy was killed. I came away certain that Jane Roman did not know who that somebody was.

LHO THE DOWN AND OUT WHO HAD NO LIFE WAS A LONE NUT CASE,

WELL CIA DID NOT THINK SO.

I totally understand if people like Giancarlo don't believe LHO had conspirators as it takes a lot of reading and very little media content take that position
But if you read the AARB files ( to my knowledge no media program has ever covered it ) , it's clear that the JFK assasination was carried out by anti Castro cubansa and there CIA sponsors such as David Atlee Phillips , E Howard Hunt and likely higher up to James Angleton and Richard Helms

It takes a lot of reading to get the plot down but it's out there and numerous people have admitted to it , such as E Howard hunt and David Atlee Phillips.

Not to mention we now know for a fact that Antonio Vencina ( leader of Alpha 66) identified CIA agent Maurice Bischop as David Atlee Phillips as his CIA handler and who he saw with LHO in Dallas in Sept .

Really though all one has to do is look at the autopsy photos to show the wound in JFK back to determine it had to be a conspiracy as the bullet coming down could not exit his throat . What's comical is the WC claims they never looked at the autopsy photos ( which we now know to be a lie from recently declassified docs an in fact a huge obstacle for them is they couldn't understand how a wound it hat low on back could exit the throat ), the single bullet theory is impossible . Even crazier is the document declassified in 1997 from our own future president in his own handwriting changing the final report edit from a back wound to the back of the neck .

A lot of good work was done in the HSCA but unfortunately the info that was declassified was info that showed CIA guys were all over LHO , especially the Lopez report which shows someone impersonated LHO and how Philips was behind all these fake LHO stories to show Cuba or Russia was behind it ( A hsca member wanted to indict Phillips for perjury but Blakey said no . The hsca even lied by saying the exit wound in the back of the head while seen by parkland doctors was supposedly not seen by Bethesda autopsy doctors . We now know from the declassifing of the Bethesda doctors that nearly everyone agreed JFK had a large exit wound in the back of his head ( including the 2 FBI agents that were there to monitor the autopsy ). In all over 41 trained professionals in 2 separate medical facilities confirmed the exit wound in the back of the head ( again had to be a different shooter ) . Even crazier is the FBI in their final report said Connolly was shot once and JFK twice and would not support the single bullet theory ( this was a big problem for the WC until Spector made up the magic bullet - the FBI also disregarded the missed shot that hit the bystander ). Even crazier is the CIA report after viewing the Zuprader film said their were 2 shooters. Not too mention LHO had a negative parafin rifle test so he didn't fire a rifle this day .

As the chief counsel for the AARB Jeremy Gun said , he would rather be defending LHO than prosecuting him as the evidence is overwhelming that LHO wasn't the shooter . The WC to this day has never identified LHO motive for the shooting . Please anyone that says he did it for the notoriety , then why was LHO so definitive that he didn't do it and was a patsy , it makes no sense .

Basically what happened is after the Cuban missile crisis , word got out that JFK made a secret pledge not to invade Cuba which resulted in the serious anti Cuban group swearing reason . When JFK was forces to use the FBI to shut down the Cuban raids and and training camps only in the USA ( this is operation mongoose ), they went nuts , the icing on the cake was the shutdown of the training camps in Louisiana in August 1963. From that point this group and their CIA handlers knew they couldn't get to Castro and then turned their assasination plots on jfk .

I could go on and on , I understand why people still believe the LHO stories but anyone that really studies the facts of the case , there is just no way they could support the WC .

Not to mention even though the hsca was flawed and the CIA infiltrated it , they did overturn the WC and stated it was a probable conspiracy with additional unknown conspirators .

Lastly the AARB documents really show how on point the movie JFK was . New documents clearly show Clay Shaw did a lot of work for the CIA and his alias was Clem Bertrand . Also interesting is the CIA had 9 agents in the garrison office to thwart his investigation . This is similIar to what they did with joanaides and angelton when among them point men with the HSCA and WC when they were getting close to LHO and all the CIA people around him .

I am not a conspiracy guy and don't believe any of that 9/11 crap but anti Castro group and their CIA sponsors did a hit on jfk , at this point it's a fact .

The big question remains is were there higher people above that . The case is very strong that James Angelton was involved ( a top CIA guy in their special investigations group ) and probably Richard Helms . It will be interesting to see how involved LBJ and Hoover were , as their fingerprints are all over the cover up , the same can be said for Allen Dulles . Did they know on advance , did they help plan it , or did they just clean up the mess afterwards to quiet down the situation .

If you really want to know how the operation went down , read up on Richard Case Negal as he was as close to this as any CIA officer I know that has come forward with the actual details ( he wanted no part of the jfk hit and shot twice in a bank to get arrested but what he said at his trial right before the assasination and later on is fascinating and fills in a lot of gaps . Other foreign intelligence agencies in KGB and Cuba knew this was going down and Castro speech the day of the assasination blaming out intelligence agency is spot on for anyone that cares .

LBJ is partially right about his Castro did it statement and it's very clever , but it was the anti Cuban group that couldn't get him and this changed their sights to jfk. My guess is Bobby Kennedy felt it was his fault too as they hated him , and this was partially confirmed earlier this year when he son said publicly it was the CIA . Now to be clear this wasn't a CIA hit but rather the anti Castro right wing extremists in the group that were fiercely anti communists who likely thought they were doing the patriotic thing as sick as that is .

The only satisfying thing to me is a lot of the people involved had terrible lives afterwards , James Angelton forced to resign in disgrace from illegally spying on USA citizens and being an alcoholic , Elio Del Valle was tortured and murdered the same day as David Ferrie as both were to be indicted soon ( in jfk movie ) , Ferrie mysteriously died days before he was to be indicted , David Atlee Phillips cried on his deathbed as he finally admitted to his brother that he was in Dallas that day . Also the alpha 66 shooter Hermino Diaz Garcia was killed shortly after on a Cuba raid in 1966 - the Cuban govt has sworn statement from Tony Cuesta that Garcia and Del Valle were involved in the hit and the likely shooters . LBJ became a mess and alcoholic and Hoover rep has been disgraced while JFK presidency has been looked at very favorably , especially Vietnam and Cuba , he was right and will be remembered far longer than the conspirators .

For anyone interested in Richard Case Nagal story , see the below book
Review on him . His story is fascinating yet tragic . The info he possessed on LHO pre assasination is astonishing ( as it should be given his assignment to monitor LHO )

The book is excellent and the link below is a good review and fact checker . Jim DiEugeno is the best jfk assasination fact checker out there .

http://www.ctka.net/reviews/russell_review_2.html

It also highlights the WC strategy of just disregarding any info that did not support the LHO lone nut ( a recently declassified document confirms Nagal told the FBI in dec 1963 that he knew LHO in Texas and Mexico yet his name was never even mentioned in the WC despite Nagal having clear CIA ties ) . Unfortunately the day after the AARB subpoenaed him to testify and for documents he was found dead. Ironically this is exactly what happened to another very important witness George de mohrenschildt as the day after hsca investigator Fonzi went to his house to set up an interview he shot himself in the head with a shotgun . George De was a good friend of Bush sr , even writing him a letter that is available asking for help and that he never should of opened his mouth up about LHO and that he was being followed was a CIA handler who was told to befriend LHO in Dallas ( likely to be his CIA care taker ) but who was a fierce Anti communist Russian . As time passed George was very upset in how he was used to help in the jfk hit .

If you want additional info on how dishonest the WC was , just do a little research on Richard Russell ( D - GA ) . An individual studied all of his writings and found documents detailing how strongly he disagreed with the magic bullet theory ( without this the LHO acted alone was impossible ) but unfortunately Dulles pulled a fast one on him to ensure his dissent ( which Russell wanted in the official report ) never saw the light of day . Dulles made sure the stenographer was not present that day to transcribe Russell dissent ( which was so compelling that another WC member Hale Boggs and one other joined in his dissent ) but made his secretary attend the meeting to provide the deception that someone was making a transcript . Unfortunately due to this no transcript was made to capture his dissent which resulted in the appearance that their investigation was agreed to by every member ( unanimous ) and give it more weight .

Like I said earlier , the information is out there including actual names who were involved ( CIA - Ferrie , Shaw , Del Valle Phillips , Howard Hunt, Angelton , Aplha66 a Sergio Archa Smith , Del Valle , Diaz Garcia , LHO , Guy Bannister with likely Texas oil men as the financial backers ) but it takes a lot of time to figure out what happened as our investigative bodies deliberately his this info or destroyed it but the AARB did an excellent job on filling some holes ( mainly that LHO was surrounded by men in intelligence ( no lone nut here ) . Hopefully the next round of declassification in 2017 provides further info .

As just an FYI , their was a civil case with E Howard Hunt vs Liberty Media that resulted in a jury believing that a conspiracy to kill jfk did occur . Not to mention the HSCA final report that concluded their was a probable conspiracy with unknown conspirators and the justice dept should re open the jfk murder case . The fact that this did not happen shows how powerful these people were . This case put numerous CIA officers on the witness stand that was crucial , individuals that Jim Garrison could not as various states would not grant Garrison extradition requests ( which is unheard of for a case like this but we all know the reason why ).

Here is another on Oswald and his CIA association .
Poor guy got played by the great James Angelton
Very well researched book from new AARB files and on the record
Former CIA employees . Truly fascinating stuff . It's clear
LHO was deep in CIA operations and had a role in the jfk hit.

http://www.ctka.net/reviews/newman.html


Another historic event that is rarely talked about for obvious reasons was
the planned jfk assassination attempt in Chicago in early November 1963.
The plot was nearly identical to the Dallas plot. High powered rifles from
A high story building , motorcade, the shooters were 4 Cubans and a delusioned
Right wing ex marine who detested named Thomas Vallee as the patsy / fall guy.

This of course was never even mentioned in the WC report ( shocker ) And even
Worse Dallas federal agents responsible for protecting jfk were never informed
The secret service agent who tried bringing this to the
attention of the WC was Abraham Bolden who was the first black SS agent . He had to be silenced and was promptly arrested shortly after notifying the WC in 1964 for soliciting A bribe and was sentenced to jail for 6 years . Later on the only witness In the case recanted and in his own trial admitted he perjured himself with bolden's case.

This basically ruined this guys life but Bolden never changed his story. Amazingly
( to some at least ) is that despite 2 Cubans being arrested and 2 getting away
From an error made by the police tailing them , even after the Dallas assasination this was Never investigated again or even brought up ( despite finding numerous M1 rivals And 3000 rounds in their hotel room and a map of jfk's motorcade route , no finger prints were made and they let the 2 Cubans go for some reason , their names are still unknown . Talk about being able to solve the plot as I'm sure these Cubans were anti Castro alpha 66 guys that would obviously tie back to their CIA sponsors , this info could really help with the case, James Rowley , the SS chief that many have held responsible for the poor protection in Dallas ordered The FBI no written reports were to be made and any made need to be destroyed ( this included 4 photographs ) . Also the hit was to be executed at the Northwest Expressway overpass ( similar to the hit area in Dallas ). The suppression of evidence is just incredible in this murder case and it's a pretty big clue on who was involved .

Now I know this sounds nuts but here is the crazy part , right before the trip this plot Was discovered by an anonymous phone call from a " Lee " who was an FBI informant that stated jfk was Going to be assassinated at the above area by right wing paramilitaries . Was this LHO ?, and if you recall the same tip was made a few days before the Dallas trip which was sent to all FBI offices , and which Hoover ordered destroyed after the hit , luckily for us some were saved And shared with Jim Garrison . Now how the Dallas hit still happened is insane and the order to suppress all info in the Chicago shows at least James Rowley had pre knowledge of the JFK hit and possibly Hoover as well and it makes sense as
Both headed their departments and the plot was obviously highly compartmentalized and on a need to know basis so only the top guys had to know and they just needed to send their orders downwards resulting in a lot of unwitting accomplises.

There is a lot of evidence that Oswald was an FBI informant ( which scared the shit out of the WC in recently declassified notes of a closed WC meeting ) , what a mess that would be if he gave the Chicago plot tip , how many Lee FBI informants are there that would have jfk assasination details ? And given the similarities with the Dallas plot warning ( the warning language is almost identical ) he could of been trying to stop the hit which apparently some intelligence agencies were trying to do per the Richard Nagal story .

Ok....thanks for the update.

When i get a chance i'll give it a closer read.

Dude you will be shocked what you read if you really get into it .

With the new evidence out from AARB, it almost impossible to believe the warren report as written and as new declassified documents show 3 of the 7!commissioners didn't believe it not too mention transcripts of LBJ who didn't believe it ( he claims it was Castro that got him which is partly true except it was the anti Castro group that couldn't get Castro and instead changed assassination plot to JFK.

The HSCA formally replaced the warren commission report from a Govt perspective to a probable conspiracy with " unknown conspirators " and left it at that . They ended it at and didn't dig any further due to no funding and time restraints which was true but in reality and as new declassified document show , the CIA mislead and likely to some extent controlled the HSCA ( appointing Joanaides , forcing the top notch investigator Sprague out as he was doing an all out investigation and would not cut any deals with the CIA. Curiously the HSCA classified a lot of documents that pointed towards a govt conspiracy ( Lopez report , CIA personal testimony , CIA files on Shaw , Ferrie , LHO etc ). Like I said earlier though , the fact no follow up from the DOJ in the biggest murder case in our countries history shows you how deep this went .

At this point it's pretty much proven that anti Castro Cubans ( Garcia , Del Valle , Cuesta Loran Hall, Sergio smith ) and their CIA sponsors ( shaw Ferrie Phillips Angelton Hunt Helms ) were part of a conspiracy and that LHO was a part of the conspiracy ( what he knew and his role is still tbd but getting details on the Chicago plot and who the tipster was would help in establishing who was involved , but how far up does it go is the question ( (Texas oil such as HL Hunt as the financial backers ? George Bush senior as well whose actions on that day are super fishy, being caught in several lies ).

If you want a book that has no bias and calls it as it is , get breach of trust by Gerald McKnight who just lays out the evidence .

The HSCA investigation was pretty much a joke. The official finding was that Oswald fired 3 shots. The 2nd and 3rd shots hit JFK,with the 3rd shot being the fatal one.The HSCA AGREED with the single bullet theory,but stated that it happened during a different time frame than the WC report.

Then in the same report,the HSCA states that a probable 2nd gunman firing from the Grassy Knoll was responsible for a possible 4th shot.The sole evidence they cited for this was a later discredited Dictabelt recording made from a Dallas PD motorcycle cop's bike microphone.

Then,in their official conclusion,these nitwits state that the alleged conspiracy DID NOT involve any of the following:
The Soviets
Castro or his people
Anti-Castro people
The "Mafia"
Secret Service
FBI
CIA

So basically the HSCA found that there was a conspiracy to kill JFK,but somehow the conspiracy didn't consist of any actual people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt8wbh_o_jQ

Richard Case Nagell CIA intelligence operative .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnLqASgChZE

Oswald's coworker remembers the day of JFK assassination.


This is a must see video on LHO.

i read the outfit by russo, double cross by chuck giancana, read fbi files, frang rangano/blakey testimony and watched countless documentaries about giancana, ruby, oswald, marcello and trafficante on youtube..
my conclusion is that the outfit as a whole was NOT involved except giancana. Rosselli knew nothing. there are recorded wiretaps where he discusses the hit in disbeliev, that the mob would not hit a president.

Giancana conspired together with marcello and trafficante. they used a nut to do it (oswald) and killed the nut. later on, all people that knew to much got killed (nicoletti for example), except marcello and trafficante. draw your own conclusion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjZ-rEvirIE